Barret 50. cal?

[-Gews- 7443]

Seriously, I do think there should be a designated long range rifle. With the Mosin being better at long/medium-long ranges (Provided you have the scope) and the AK series outclassing it in every other range, it'd be rather cool to have a designated long range sniper rifle like the.. pause for effect... .30-06!

 

.30-06 does the same thing as .308/7.62x54R +/- 50-100 fps, in-game there would be absolutely no noticeable difference, if they wanted a cartridge with more long range punch they should add something like .300 Win Mag.

[The Aquatic Land Walrus 565]

.30-06 does the same thing as .308/7.62x54R +/- 50-100 fps, in-game there would be absolutely no noticeable difference, if they wanted a cartridge with more long range punch they should add something like .300 Win Mag.

I was gonna suggest the .300 Winmag, but that doesn't seem like it'd fit in.

A modern? sniper cartridge mostly used by Americans? (I don't know much about the .300 winmag sadly, only more recreational calibers) wouldn't fit in a Russian area. A WWI era American sniper may have made it there, though.

That, and I LOVE the .30-06.

[gibonez 3633]

.30-06 does the same thing as .308/7.62x54R +/- 50-100 fps, in-game there would be absolutely no noticeable difference, if they wanted a cartridge with more long range punch they should add something like .300 Win Mag.

 

They don't necessarily

have to have it have more long range punch.

 

In fact they could do the opposite and have the .30-06 be the civilian variety a hunting round.

 

A 220 grain round would do the trick , shooting out at a lower 2400 fps.

[Carmelo Anthony 3]

When have I EVER said that a .50 AMR is a 'crew-operated artillery piece"? Do not put words into my mouth to bolster your own argument.

 

I just don't think it is a good thing to add to a survival-oriented game, and outlined my reason why.

 

Me: "Not only would making it a crew weapon be completely anti-fun it would also be completely unrealistic as an m107 can easily be carried on a person's back (it only weighs around 30 pounds)"

 

You: 

 

"it only weighs about 30 pounds"

 

"IT ONLY WEIGHS ABOUT 30 POUNDS"

 

IT ONLY WEIGHS ABOUT 30 POUNDS

 

Tell me, have you ever done any hiking or backpacking, especially in mountainous, rough terrain? Because in that sort of terrain, ounces, much less pounds,  is important, and "mountainous backpacking" is essentially what we are doing in Day Z. I regularly carry about 20 lbs of equipment (backpack with plenty of water, change of clothing, food, blanket, survival kit, tomahawk, folding saw, etc) on me, regardless of where I am hiking, and I consider that EXTREMELY heavy. 

 

 

Not explicitly stated but counter arguing my argument pretty much makes you in favor of the affirmation.

[Whyherro123 2283]

Me: "Not only would making it a crew weapon be completely anti-fun it would also be completely unrealistic as an m107 can easily be carried on a person's back (it only weighs around 30 pounds)"

 

You: 

 

 

 

 

Not explicitly stated but counter arguing my argument pretty much makes you in favor of the affirmation.

That.....isn't how debating works.

[-Gews- 7443]

I was gonna suggest the .300 Winmag, but that doesn't seem like it'd fit in.

A modern? sniper cartridge mostly used by Americans? (I don't know much about the .300 winmag sadly, only more recreational calibers) wouldn't fit in a Russian area. A WWI era American sniper may have made it there, though.

That, and I LOVE the .30-06.

 

It fits in fine and it's a very popular and longstanding hunting round. I'm not thinking of M2010. The .30-06 also fits in fine, but not the Springfield. There are hundreds of types of .30-06 hunting rifles of every kind so I don't get why they'd choose to add a random Springfield. :huh:

They don't necessarily

have to have it have more long range punch.

 

In fact they could do the opposite and have the .30-06 be the civilian variety a hunting round.

 

A 220 grain round would do the trick , shooting out at a lower 2400 fps.

 

220 is one of the least common, they should put 180 if they had .30-06 since it's likely the most popular. 220 is American traditional load also, most European manufacturers only offer 200 gr. max. If they want slower they should go 9.3. But somehow I don't think they want slower.

[Mjones (DayZ) 48]

Just lol you guys arguing about the .50

 

 

 

 

How about the 20mm, is that big enough for zombies?

[Jex 1104]

There's no sprinting with any of the common amount of gear people carry in the SA irl for the distances we go either.  That whole line of reasoning is goofy, and people take the realism stuff too far imo.

 

The original point was that people are capable of hiking with a lot more than 30 lbs on their back, which whyherro was arguing is too much weight that no one would ever do it.  Our characters are already carrying way more than that on average.  If they implement a weight system then it could be a drawback, and balance it out.

 

Why Whyherro was arguing was that in real life, when you're hiking more than about 30 pounds starts to hurt. The most I did hiking was across the Pennines with 70lbs and walked 16 miles. The Pennines are almost mountainous terrain, lots of up and down and the first leg is 16 miles and we were proper fucked after that day (best nights sleep ever though lol). Of course, we walked everywhere, there was no "jogging" - it never even crossed your mind to do something so dumb. 70lbs doesn't feel that heavy for the first hour or two....

[Jex 1104]

>inb4 "IS NOT COD"

Seriously, I do think there should be a designated long range rifle. With the Mosin being better at long/medium-long ranges (Provided you have the scope) and the AK series outclassing it in every other range, it'd be rather cool to have a designated long range sniper rifle like the.. pause for effect... .30-06!

I love that caliber, and I love the M1903 Springfield. A lot.

 

Longest ever sniper kill was made with L115A3.

[Bororm 1156]

Why Whyherro was arguing was that in real life, when you're hiking more than about 30 pounds starts to hurt. The most I did hiking was across the Pennines with 70lbs and walked 16 miles. The Pennines are almost mountainous terrain, lots of up and down and the first leg is 16 miles and we were proper fucked after that day (best nights sleep ever though lol). Of course, we walked everywhere, there was no "jogging" - it never even crossed your mind to do something so dumb. 70lbs doesn't feel that heavy for the first hour or two....

 

And I just don't find that a useful argument at all.  Excluding an item because it weighs too much is idiotic imo.

 

Should Jerry Cans and bags of lime be removed too because who's gonna carry one of those around right?  How about full sized shovels, who's gonna carry one of those when they're hiking?  Or a sledge hammer?  Again, this game isn't hiking lone survivor man simulator.  They're adding a weight and stamina system, we'll see how it plays out.

Edited February 18, 2015 by Bororm

[gibonez 3633]

And I just don't find that a useful argument at all.  Excluding an item because it weighs too much is idiotic imo.

 

Should Jerry Cans and bags of lime be removed too because who's gonna carry one of those around right?  How about full sized shovels, who's gonna carry one of those when they're hiking?  Or a sledge hammer?  Again, this game isn't hiking lone survivor man simulator.  They're adding a weight and stamina system, we'll see how it plays out.

 

 

How about excluding an item because it makes absolutely no sense within the context of a survival game ?

[stielhandgranate 480]

How about excluding an item because it makes absolutely no sense within the context of a survival game ?

 

It shoots bullets, its heavy and shiny and might be "fool's gold". Something that isn't the best weapon of it's class and heavy but attractive by the rule of cool, like Gorka Helmets, where the American Counterpart offers more protection but people choose it for aesthetics.

[Inception. 9443]

You didn't miss much. It was just Arma with zombies

 

Mmm, I would disagree. The mod was the beginning of everything that DayZ is and aspires to be. The early days of the mod were the best of days.

[Jex 1104]

And I just don't find that a useful argument at all.  Excluding an item because it weighs too much is idiotic imo.

 

Should Jerry Cans and bags of lime be removed too because who's gonna carry one of those around right?  How about full sized shovels, who's gonna carry one of those when they're hiking?  Or a sledge hammer?  Again, this game isn't hiking lone survivor man simulator.  They're adding a weight and stamina system, we'll see how it plays out.

 

I didn't say you needed to exclude items because they weigh too much did I?

 

Also, heavy items and moving them could be done a lot easier with something...I can't quite remember what it is...it's on the tip of my tongue...but it makes travel really easy and effortless.

[Bororm 1156]

I didn't say you needed to exclude items because they weigh too much did I?

 

Also, heavy items and moving them could be done a lot easier with something...I can't quite remember what it is...it's on the tip of my tongue...but it makes travel really easy and effortless.

 

You didn't but that was whyherro's argument which you were defending.

[Jex 1104]

You didn't but that was whyherro's argument which you were defending.

 

And what has that got to do with excluding items due to weight? Wasn't his point that in a zombie apocalypse, which as far as I know we are in, you would have no need for a weapon that weighs so much when you have lighter, more accurate and better weapons systems available. That running around with one in your backpack, plus all your other gear, not to mention another gun no doubt would leave you knackered because of all the jogging everyone does. You are constantly on the move.

 

Taking it to the extremes then, maybe they should add in nukes because I want to fire those off - surely you add things into the world that make sense and suit the universe you're making, don't you?