A "framerate killer" rain

[saamohod 45]

 I've made an interesting observation in DayZ 0.50.
A sudden framerate drop occured once rain started. FPS dropped down to quite unplayable level while the rain was falling and recovered back to robust FPS as soon as the rain stopped. It kept happening on and on again on that server.
But that's just one thing. Not every type of rain causes frames to drop! So far the culprit is the rain which falls in big drops. You notice the difference when you enter another server which has rainy weather and the raindrops are noticeably smaller. The "small rain" doesn't affect the framerate at all, but the "big rain" does (at least on my rig)!
Did any of you notice this?
If I happen to encounter both types of rain and recall to make screenshots, I'll post them here so you can see the visual difference.
 

Edited November 9, 2014 by saamohod

[Jfiles 439]

Specs?

[Mookie (original) 799]

FWIW, absolutely agree with this hypothesis. My experience is the same.

 

Framerate seems to have become progressively worse since 0.50, but rain is a killer. It's like a slideshow much of the time.

[saamohod 45]

Specs?

Intel i7 4770

16 GB RAM

NVidia GTX 560Ti

[saamohod 45]

FWIW, absolutely agree with this hypothesis. My experience is the same.

 

Framerate seems to have become progressively worse since 0.50, but rain is a killer. It's like a slideshow much of the time.

Exactly.

And my point was that there are different kinds of rain. The one that rains in big droplets is the one that causes the slowdown. The other rain I experienced that rains in smaller drops does not affect the frames.

[freethink 984]

it's because of the new thing where you can see rain on stuff (leaves/your body etc) 

 

i'm sick of the rain tbh

Edited November 10, 2014 by freethink

[Jfiles 439]

Intel i7 4770

16 GB RAM

NVidia GTX 560Ti

Maybe the GPU is killing you when the rain comes?? All i can really guess

[jiggyjoe 43]

id' suggest you to tweak your launch options and dayz.cfg to be able to maximise your fps gain resulting a better overall performance even during heavy rain refer to that thread :

http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/154330-possible-fps-enhancer/

[saamohod 45]

id' suggest you to tweak your launch options and dayz.cfg to be able to maximise your fps gain resulting a better overall performance even during heavy rain refer to that thread :

http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/154330-possible-fps-enhancer/

Thanks, I'm aware of those measures, done that long time ago.

[Caboose187 (DayZ) 3036]

Thanks, I'm aware of those measures, done that long time ago.

That 560ti is going on damn near 4 years old, which in electronic terms, is old.  Get a better card and you'll see a world of difference.  Just so you know, your processor is better than mine as I run the i7 3770k with 16g of ram but I have an AMD R9 270x and I have no issues with how the game runs.

[saamohod 45]

That 560ti is going on damn near 4 years old, which in electronic terms, is old.  Get a better card and you'll see a world of difference.  Just so you know, your processor is better than mine as I run the i7 3770k with 16g of ram but I have an AMD R9 270x and I have no issues with how the game runs.

Yep, I'm aware that my video card is the weakest link. But I still consider its performance as average not inferior. Its benchmark score is still not so underwhelming. My point was that rain renders my game unplayable. No rain, no problem.

 BTW according to this data http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/video_lookup.php?gpu=GeForce+GTX+560+Ti&id=18 my card scores 3500 and yours does 4500 which I don't consider a huge difference.

Edited November 10, 2014 by saamohod

[cywehner1234 582]

That 560ti is going on damn near 4 years old, which in electronic terms, is old.  Get a better card and you'll see a world of difference.  Just so you know, your processor is better than mine as I run the i7 3770k with 16g of ram but I have an AMD R9 270x and I have no issues with how the game runs.

You actually do have so issues ^. The game is not running at near what it should be. EVERYONE has these issues because its not optimized. The 560 ti performs decently, around 55 average fps for battlefield 3, highest settings, but that being said, it's not the best card, but it should do for low-medium settings, if this game was optimized. I have a i7-4790k 4.7 GHz and 2x 760's SLI'd,  14 GB RAM, everyone has problems, trust me. I get around 50, on lowest settings.

[soulfirez 901]

You actually do have so issues ^. The game is not running at near what it should be. EVERYONE has these issues because its not optimized. The 560 ti performs decently, around 55 average fps for battlefield 3, highest settings, but that being said, it's not the best card, but it should do for low-medium settings, if this game was optimized. I have a i7-4790k 4.7 GHz and 2x 760's SLI'd,  14 GB RAM, everyone has problems, trust me. I get around 50, on lowest settings.

You get around 50 fps where?? if its novo then thats understandable. I say this because i also have a 4790k ( clocked to 5ghz though on water) and use a titan black which is weaker than your 2 760s and at near max ( i say near max because i use low pp as i dont like there pp effects much and i only use 125% render on a 3440 x1440 screen) i get 60 to 70fps in many cities, 80 to 90 in small towns 105 to 130 in forrests 140 to 170 in wide open areas.. Novo being my worst location at low 50's

 

The game is far from well optimized no doubt but it shocks me how bad many people say it plays on there rigs ( i mean thats worse than my wifes rig which i also built it has a AMD 8350 also clocked to 5ghz and a single gtx 770 and that plays the game nearly maxed out at better than that between 40 and 100 fps.

 

I sometimes wonder if people know how to maintain there rigs to be optimized for playing games ( or through neglect they are turning them into potatoes with flashy specs?? or is it just plain random bad luck ???

 

not sure if this classes as heavy rain but it was visible as splashes on the ground so i dont know but it was running well pretty well..Crappy pic i know i just booted game jumped server 2 times to get a rain and thunder storm and snapped this running in the forrest near the apartments by cherno..

 

Edit i do turn hyperthreading off though and use the cpu profile i did just for dayz (pushing the one core the game uses as hard as possible)so i have a little set up time but it makes for a much better game experience

Edited November 10, 2014 by SoulFirez

[Caboose187 (DayZ) 3036]

You actually do have so issues ^. The game is not running at near what it should be. EVERYONE has these issues because its not optimized. The 560 ti performs decently, around 55 average fps for battlefield 3, highest settings, but that being said, it's not the best card, but it should do for low-medium settings, if this game was optimized. I have a i7-4790k 4.7 GHz and 2x 760's SLI'd,  14 GB RAM, everyone has problems, trust me. I get around 50, on lowest settings.

I guess I should have worded it properly.  I have no issues with a game that is not optimized.  I currently play at 50-60 fps in the open and forests while cities are about 25-35 fps.  I hardly call that an issue.

My settings can be located in this thread.  http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/214622-minimum-fps-or-minimum-viewing-distance-help-me-dudes/

[[Outcasts]Massacre 121]

Yep, I'm aware that my video card is the weakest link. But I still consider its performance as average not inferior. Its benchmark score is still not so underwhelming. My point was that rain renders my game unplayable. No rain, no problem.

 BTW according to this data http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/video_lookup.php?gpu=GeForce+GTX+560+Ti&id=18 my card scores 3500 and yours does 4500 which I don't consider a huge difference.

 

I beg to differ....

 

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=GeForce+GTX+560+Ti

 

Your card is on the bottom of the average cards. Where as non of my rigs has any issues rig 1 has a core i7 and a geforce GTX 780TI and the other has a core i5 and a geforce 770. Non of those cards seem to suffer frame rate drops when it rains.

[cywehner1234 582]

You get around 50 fps where?? if its novo then thats understandable. I say this because i also have a 4790k ( clocked to 5ghz though on water) and use a titan black which is weaker than your 2 760s and at near max ( i say near max because i use low pp as i dont like there pp effects much and i only use 125% render on a 3440 x1440 screen) i get 60 to 70fps in many cities, 80 to 90 in small towns 105 to 130 in forrests 140 to 170 in wide open areas.. Novo being my worst location at low 50's

 

The game is far from well optimized no doubt but it shocks me how bad many people say it plays on there rigs ( i mean thats worse than my wifes rig which i also built it has a AMD 8350 also clocked to 5ghz and a single gtx 770 and that plays the game nearly maxed out at better than that between 40 and 100 fps.

 

I sometimes wonder if people know how to maintain there rigs to be optimized for playing games ( or through neglect they are turning them into potatoes with flashy specs?? or is it just plain random bad luck ???

 

not sure if this classes as heavy rain but it was visible as splashes on the ground so i dont know but it was running well pretty well..

My computer max's by default (Always has) at 60 FPS. It will never peak over that. I only run 1920x1080, and I drop to about 40 in towns, sometimes 30 lowest. This game is MUCH more CPU dependant than GPU. I havent tried to run the game with my SSD yet, people say it helps. The game is unoptimized is all I can say. Both of our rigs should be BLOWING this game out of the water.

[Borges (DayZ) 40]

Gtx 560ti is indeed way outdated. Go for a discontinued gtx 670 FTW on ebay man they sell cheap at $100-150 and are GREAT cards. Or just buy a gtx 970 for $350. Pricey but worth it for an upgrade. Yes the game is unoptimized and you will get 40's fps in cities regardless of 970 or 670, but the 670 is just night and day over the 560ti. Had the 560ti myself.

Edited November 10, 2014 by Borges

[soulfirez 901]

My computer max's by default (Always has) at 60 FPS. It will never peak over that. I only run 1920x1080, and I drop to about 40 in towns, sometimes 30 lowest. This game is MUCH more CPU dependant than GPU. I havent tried to run the game with my SSD yet, people say it helps. The game is unoptimized is all I can say. Both of our rigs should be BLOWING this game out of the water.

Damn thats bad i didnt think it was that bad ( reminds himself never to mention frames again ) Oh i use a SSD for all my games specially RV engine games that are constantly reading data of the drive (cant say it will help the FPS unless the game is bottlenecking waiting for data to load but i doubt it ) but it does make it so much smoother no micro stutters and no texture pop ins i dont know how anyone can play this game on a HDD i watched my mate doing it and the pop ins were so distracting it wasnt funny..

[harteman 155]

Certain new rains put a black circle around my guy with a radius of about 15 meters.  IT's like the shading on my screen gets totally messed up, til it stops raining.

[harteman 155]

560ti is good enough for this game which is rendered in dx9.  It won't max it, but you'll be fine.  Game is cpu bound, and only runs on two cores right now.

[boneboys 7988]

This is not a GPU problem, upgrading will not make any difference  to DayZ at this time.

There are noticeable processing increases when weather changes kick in, this should improve as the game is further optimised in the future.

[jiggyjoe 43]

I beg to differ....

 

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=GeForce+GTX+560+Ti

 

Your card is on the bottom of the average cards. Where as non of my rigs has any issues rig 1 has a core i7 and a geforce GTX 780TI and the other has a core i5 and a geforce 770. Non of those cards seem to suffer frame rate drops when it rains.

Me neither (750TI)

[degoe 20]

Same problem here, made a post in the feedback tracker about it: http://feedback.dayzgame.com/view.php?id=18343#bugnotes

I feel everybody has this but doesn't notice it as much because they have a lot of gpu overhead. If someone with a newer card could make a comparison of gpu usage during rain we could confirm this.

Its most definitely a bigger gpu load then expectable for such visual effects. It seems like its a bug that might be fixed with the renderer replacement but it could also just be a video setting I need to turn off. Ive tried a bunch of them without success, maybe anybody has got a clue?

Edited December 8, 2014 by degoe

[jukaga 271]

Haven't noticed FPS drop in rain, but I don't care for playing in constant rain as the 'white noise' of the rainfall is just so frakking loud I can't take it after a while. Ambient wind gets annoying too, but damn that rain is just headphone-filling noise.