EduardoMaia 72 Posted July 17, 2014 WTF IS THIS???Dayz will now be a pvp game?Where is the survivor? I only see people changing server (or admins restarting servers) to loot the best itens, and them, go to a full server to kill all. ok ok, we have militar base, guns, etc, but please...I dont want camo suit. Is to much for a survivor game. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quantum2k6 348 Posted July 17, 2014 if this is real... ARMA-Z incomming... so sad its going step by step to an new milsim. whats next? harriers and apaches? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sabre05 351 Posted July 17, 2014 I dont want camo suit. Is to much for a survivor game. if this is real... ARMA-Z incomming... so sad its going step by step to an new milsim. whats next? harriers and apaches? Are you two deranged? Do you know how easy it is to make your own Ghillie suit? It's piss easy. You get a net, you get soom green/brown wool/string and then you tie leaves to the wool/string. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
newguyzombie 122 Posted July 17, 2014 iam not against a camo suite at all, but it should be craftable, and items to craft should be rare. it also should disable the ability to carry a backpack. so you have to chose between the suite and space 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quantum2k6 348 Posted July 17, 2014 (edited) Are you two deranged? Do you know how easy it is to make your own Ghillie suit? It's piss easy. You get a net, you get soom green/brown wool/string and then you tie leaves to the wool/string. deranged? wtf lol dayz is not a milsim if u want play a milsim then plz play arma or sniper elite. it wont take long and EVERYONE ingame wear a ghillie if they add it to the standart loot spawn... finnaly everyone dupe one if ppl found nothing... Edited July 17, 2014 by quantum2k6 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EduardoMaia 72 Posted July 17, 2014 deranged? wtf lol dayz is not a milsim if u want play a milsim then plz play arma or sniper elite. it wont take long and EVERYONE ingame wear a ghillie if they add it to the standart loot spawn... finnaly everyone dupe one if ppl found nothing...Dayz Chewaka Alone will be the name/game! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sabre05 351 Posted July 17, 2014 deranged? wtf lol dayz is not a milsim if u want play a milsim then plz play arma or sniper elite. it wont take long and EVERYONE ingame wear a ghillie if they add it to the standart loot spawn... finnaly everyone dupe one if ppl found nothing... I've literally just told you how easy it is to make a ghillie suit. You don't need to be in the military to create/wear one. By golly. Ignorant, aren't we? iam not against a camo suite at all, but it should be craftable, and items to craft should be rare. it also should disable the ability to carry a backpack. so you have to chose between the suite and space What's rare about rope and leaves on the ground? And disabling the backpack? Really? It's not hard to make a suit big enough to cover a backpack too. I think they'll make it so the backpack is sticking out the back so you'd need a hunting back, green taloon or the improvised bag otherwise you'd be too bait. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stielhandgranate 480 Posted July 17, 2014 QQ. Surplus uniforms are very easy to find all over the world and it takes little skill to make camo netting and fashion it into a suit. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chroma 61 Posted July 17, 2014 HELL YEAH! BUSH WOOKIES!!!!They would be fun if craftable rather than just a standard loot drop in a barracks.Wrapping rifles in burlap and leaves would also kick ass!I'm in no way a bandit, i can definitely see the appeal of disappearing into the woodland to avoid the clown mask brigade, recon an area for a while and then move in to loot before making a retreat back to safety! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stielhandgranate 480 Posted July 17, 2014 Yeah on a related note, I really like how the clown masks became a bandit thing. If only something like the UN berets or medic uniforms became a way of IDing neutrals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Combine (DayZ) 247 Posted July 17, 2014 I suppose some people tend to "hype" some things and predict the end of the (game) world. From a realistic standpoint, anyone with the knowledge / will / tools can make some makeshift ghillie suit in no time. If you balance it out a bit so it won't be piss easy ingame (and therefore result in a wrong balance) then all is more or less well. As for the whole "Milsim" and panicking people: DayZ is still changing, and will change a lot. No one knows in what direction it will go precisely and we'll surely see some "nerfs" and tweaks but you HAVE to be honest here: This is not 321412 years after the collapse of civilization. It's, perhaps, within few years of the collapse of modern society with plenty of loot and objects from said society left mostly intact. That includes previously used military gear. In some aspects, DayZ is already a milsim. Again, as long as THE main focus is not on the mil and on the sim, it's more or less okay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evil Minion 943 Posted July 17, 2014 If it comes with appropriate downsides there is nothing wrong with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeefBacon 1185 Posted July 17, 2014 if this is real... ARMA-Z incomming... so sad its going step by step to an new milsim. whats next? harriers and apaches? Ghillie suits being included Therefore Harriers and Apaches will be too. Excuse me while I try to regain the IQ I just lost. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CJFlint 357 Posted July 17, 2014 (edited) I voted yes for camo suit, or a gilly suit. I would like to see it an item you can craft using burlap sacks, brush or grass and ropes...possibly. The reason I say this is most scout snipers make there own gilly suits so they should be craft able, just like the improvised pack, but with more steps. Also they should costume so say If you want one to blend in with grass you use grass or what ever surroundings you want to blend in with. Maybe also have pre made ones that are rare drops. I did see one DayZ TV they are adding more rifle camo options using burlap sacks which is vary cool. Just a thought. Edited July 17, 2014 by CJFlint 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quantum2k6 348 Posted July 17, 2014 Ghillie suits being included Therefore Harriers and Apaches will be too. Excuse me while I try to regain the IQ I just lost.welcome to arma 4... sad... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kriecher 17 Posted July 17, 2014 Yes, because said before, it is kind of easy to make. As long they make it a craftable Item. Milsim? As long there are no AS50 and Tanks Im fine :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Santa fox 53 Posted July 17, 2014 I don't mind ghillie suits and more army specific loot to be added into the game. If people don't like it, I am sure private hives will work out just fine, while letting those of us who enjoy having many choices of how to approach DayZ, the ability to do so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redstar Payne 54 Posted July 17, 2014 So funny seeing people against military items in this game when they fail to realize that most people including them would gather as much military loot as they could if a situation like this ever occurred in the world, and not even zombie apocalypse either i mean any sort of world ending or major government shut down because lets face it military items are key in most survival. back on topic though a gillie suit would be nice to have as long as its only craft able and not just found. Also to the "welcome to Arma 4" people i know a hundred non-military people who own gillies for hunting or if shit goes down or hell even for fun ... its not uncommon in civilian life at all so please quite down your slander is not needed here ... go find the post about nukes and flying warships that shoot lasers out of their ass to talk down on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Darkers 151 Posted July 17, 2014 WTF IS THIS???Dayz will now be a pvp game?Where is the survivor? I only see people changing server (or admins restarting servers) to loot the best itens, and them, go to a full server to kill all. ok ok, we have militar base, guns, etc, but please...I dont want camo suit. Is to much for a survivor game. with camo suits I suppose you mean a Ghillie suit?These are already confirmed as craft-able items, burlap rope and kindling as far as I know, same goes for weapon camo (with plants). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parazight 1599 Posted July 17, 2014 So the argument that we shouldn't have camo outfits because the game should focus on survival more and pvp less is nonsensical, at best. Guess what. All single player PVE content in every single MMO (including this one) poses no challenge whatsoever. The only PVE content that can be considered difficult at all are the large raid hardmode bosses at the bleeding edge of progression content. (even that requires multiple real people interaction) I roll my eyes every time I hear some noob claim that this game is challenging when it's not pvp. The only challenge that an MMO will ever provide for the single player is pvp combat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lithium1056 45 Posted July 18, 2014 People who wear ghillie suits in real life.1. Snipers obviously2. Most forms of hunters3. Nature photographersPlaces the average Joe can obtain ghillie suits1. Military surplus shops2. Hunting supply stores3. Hobby shops specializing in airsoft accessories 4. The internet5. Large department chains (where all the required items can be purchased seperately to craft a suit)Tell me again how un-realistic these are?But seriously OP, in a survival situation these are perfect a lone survivor can plant his back end in a bush while observing a location that may have zombies. Or while hunting.Also Ghillie material can be applied to almost anything. Including backpacks in this case one should either have to attach it to a hunting pack or it should cover the pack and must be removed to access the pack if it's on a mountain pack or similar.These are not just military suits they are everyday supplies for people that interact with nature especially photogs and hunters. Even bird watchers. Just like lens/scope covers that reduce the chances that the sun or any other light source will glint/reflect of them giving away your position.And finally this is a pvp game, once tey spawn larger hordes of zombies PVE might become more difficult. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theevancat 94 Posted July 18, 2014 Are you two deranged? Do you know how easy it is to make your own Ghillie suit? It's piss easy. You get a net, you get soom green/brown wool/string and then you tie leaves to the wool/string. I just want to put some camo netting on my helmet. That or a mitznefet. If it comes with appropriate downsides there is nothing wrong with it. They're hot as balls, so there's that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lithium1056 45 Posted July 18, 2014 They're hot as balls, so there's that.Depends really some of them aren't as bad as others. No more than the military uniforms already in game. I do think they should negate the ability to wear a helmet though (if hooded) but still allow for a mask Share this post Link to post Share on other sites