PETITION: Do you want to see the Gas Mask/Ballistic Helmet combination reintroduced?

[Grimey Rick 3417]

I'm looking to garner results on whether or not players want to see the Gas Mask/Ballistic Helmet combination reintroduced into DayZ.

 

There are many real-world examples of this combination in use.

 

From what I understand, all masks (Dallas/Wolf/Hoxton/Gas) used in conjunction with the Ballistic/Motorcycle Helmet were disabled due to issues with model clipping. While I can appreciate this, hats like the Cowboy Hat, Beret, Baseball Cap, Boonie Hat and Flat Cap all clip just as badly, if not worse than the aforementioned Helmets (try equipping a Dallas Mask with a Cowboy Hat for clarification).

 

This may have been a temporary removal with the intent of fixing the clipping at a later date, but if it was, I haven't been able to find anything pertaining to its potential reintegration. I, personally, feel that the combination added a certain level of realism. Seeing someone wearing a Gas Mask and Ballistic Helmet with other military gear usually meant that they were at the very least a fairly competent survivor and would possess better-than-average gear. This would deter some players, and attract others.

 

Note how minimal the clipping is using the Ballistic Helmet in conjunction with the Gas Mask:

 

 

*** I would ask that before casting your vote, try to do so based solely on whether or not you feel the removal made sense in the DayZ world, not because you had a bad experience with a bandit who was donning the combination or because you yourself tend to dress only in civilian attire. Try to remain as neutral as possible and vote solely on whether or not you feel the combination made sense. ***

 

Would you like to see the combination reintroduced?

 

EDIT: teh splelingz

Edited June 26, 2014 by Grimey Rick

[Zyryanoff 227]

I think in release version their spawn chance will be ~0.01% so there will be no problems. But okay, fix models please.

[NuckFuts 265]

You know what the man from 'Del Monte' always says?

 

I agree with him :)

[cywehner1234 582]

It almost doesn't make sense to not have a helmet and a gas mask. It's a simple combo. Just like I think that you should be able to have a balaclava and a helmet on. It's almost a contridiction to not be able to use both.

[IReadTheAgreement 313]

I've always loved the gas mask and ballistic helmet combo.  Would love to see it back in and haven't seen any reason why it shouldn't be.  The clipping argument really doesn't make sense when a Dallas mask clips right through a cowboy hat.

[SFRGaming 718]

*sigh* If you will go back to when it was taken out, the devs took the ability to wear both out since there were clipping problems. They are making another mask that won't have clipping problems, but it's lower priority since the mask serves no purpose at the moment. No petition needed for this.

[UltimateGentleman 355]

How does having a gas mask and ballistic helmet make you seem more of a survivor? Neither of those things are hard to find.

 

I think generic survivor when I see them not badass tactical pro. Badass tactical pro to me would be wearing an orange raincoat and still kicking ass.

So yeah I don't really care don't see why they should go to the effort or changing it.

 

And they certainly shouldn't if there's ever a point in having the mask though I'm not sure what point there could ever be, poson gas areas? When someone had too many beans?

 

 

I would rather they make me a Abe Lincoln style top hat so I can look bitchin'

[IReadTheAgreement 313]

*sigh* If you will go back to when it was taken out, the devs took the ability to wear both out since there were clipping problems. They are making another mask that won't have clipping problems, but it's lower priority since the mask serves no purpose at the moment. No petition needed for this.

 

The first point OP mentioned was that sure it clipped but everything else does as well.  Why single out this combination during alpha stage?  No need for a *sigh*

[Blern 74]

Don't see the need, imo, but I don't see the need for any mask in this game right now, either. Are there smoke grenades, deadly fumes or some real reason to have to wear a gas mask? Are we worried that other players will 'recognize' our character, or that the stock avatar face isn't intimidating enough? Hell, I'd love to have the power armor from Fallout, but just the ballistic helmet is good enough for me. 

[Beck (DayZ) 1768]

They are making another mask that won't have clipping problems, but it's lower priority since the mask serves no purpose at the moment.

Sources please. I'd like to see pictures if they have any.

[SFRGaming 718]

Sources please. I'd like to see pictures if they have any.

You can go back and check their twitter when they took out the ability to wear both. People bitched and complained for days on end and they explained why many times on their twitter.

 

 

The first point OP mentioned was that sure it clipped but everything else does as well.  Why single out this combination during alpha stage?  No need for a *sigh*

 

I sighed because people have proposed this before.

Edited June 27, 2014 by SFRGaming

[q.S Sachiel 470]

damnit man choose your poision!

swift hole to the head, or liquefaction from the inside out...

but seriously what kind of mil-gas mask is incompatable with standard protective equipment like a helmet?

[Deathlove 2286]

*sigh* If you will go back to when it was taken out, the devs took the ability to wear both out since there were clipping problems. They are making another mask that won't have clipping problems, but it's lower priority since the mask serves no purpose at the moment. No petition needed for this.

My character is still wearing mine on even after the patch that took away helmet and gas mask combo due to "clipping issues". There is VERY little issue with the combination as of right now. That much i can tell you. It made little to NO sense to take them out there is hardly any clipping compared to the other combinations.

 

Also why the fuck is it low priority when it was a BIG priority in the supposed patch they took them out? Doesn't seem low priority to me if they had time to take them out of one of the major alpha patches.

Edited June 27, 2014 by Deathlove

[Deathlove 2286]

I think generic survivor when I see them not badass tactical pro. Badass tactical pro to me would be wearing an orange raincoat and still kicking ass.

So yeah I don't really care don't see why they should go to the effort or changing it.

 

 would rather they make me a Abe Lincoln style top hat so I can look bitchin'

Both of those combinations will just make you look like a jackass and an easy target. XD

Edited June 27, 2014 by Deathlove

[UltimateGentleman 355]

Both of those combinations will just make you look like a jackass and an easy target. XD

Better than the boring, generic olive set to be camo which barely helps.

 

There are lots of orange bushes and trees.

Orange camo raincoat is superior.

 

Top hat adds a hint of ridiculous that means nobody will want to shoot your ridiculous ass...until you shoot them.

Tried and tested.

Except the top hat part.

 

Anyway OT above all issues I don't see how this is important it wouldn't be a good idea to wear the both of them in this DayZ situation as realistically the mask would severely limit your peripheral vision, might be smart to keep one but not wear it at all times.

[IReadTheAgreement 313]

I sighed because people have proposed this before.

 

Maybe there's a reason for that.  Either way there really was no good reason for its removal.

[Deathlove 2286]

Better than the boring, generic olive set to be camo which barely helps.

 

There are lots of orange bushes and trees.

Orange camo raincoat is superior.

 

Top hat adds a hint of ridiculous that means nobody will want to shoot your ridiculous ass...until you shoot them.

Tried and tested.

Except the top hat part.

 

Anyway OT above all issues I don't see how this is important it wouldn't be a good idea to wear the both of them in this DayZ situation as realistically the mask would severely limit your peripheral vision, might be smart to keep one but not wear it at all times.

Assuming they made the disease transferable through blood like 28 Days/Weeks Latter i could see the mask being a more effective tool when fighting infected. I think one of the first diseases they should introduce is the zombie virus overall through the contamination of blood.

 

Also remember there are NOW 3 different helment colors and more than just the Olive army clothing including a FULL set of high end winter military camo gear.

[UltimateGentleman 355]

Assuming they made the disease transferable through blood like 28 Days/Weeks Latter i could see the mask being a more effective tool when fighting infected. I think one of the first diseases they should introduce is the zombie virus overall through the contamination of blood.

 

Also remember there are NOW 3 different helment colors and more than just the Olive army clothing including a FULL set of high end winter military camo gear.

 

But how do you get rid of the virus? I'm not sure they should add that I think it just should have been an airborne thing that's died down. Unless there's just going to be cure vials around....

 

 

That nobody will really use unless they add winter seasons and snow.

[Deathlove 2286]

But how do you get rid of the virus? I'm not sure they should add that I think it just should have been an airborne thing that's died down. Unless there's just going to be cure vials around....

 

 

That nobody will really use unless they add winter seasons and snow.

Naw an airborn virus although realistic sounds just retarded. We do have this thing called disinfectant i think we should be able to use on blood stained clothing and crap like that. I think Depending on the severity of the how drenched you are in blood should play a factor well as to how easy it would be to obtain said virus combined with lower immune systems to disease such as getting sick, starving, etc.

 

Also i do and im sure others do it as well. In fact i wear ALL blue most of the time.

[UltimateGentleman 355]

Naw an airborn virus although realistic sounds just retarded. We do have this thing called disinfectant i think we should be able to use on blood stained clothing and crap like that. I think Depending on the severity of the how drenched you are in blood should play a factor well as to how easy it would be to obtain said virus combined with lower immune systems to disease such as getting sick, starving, etc.

 

Also i do and im sure others do it as well. In fact i wear ALL blue most of the time.

 

But when you get the virus? If zombies are vectors then they need only scratch you to infect you and what then it would suck if a zombie could just hit you once and that's it you're dead no matter what. Would suck even worse if you had to take someones blood too since nobody would co-operate...

I think they should stick to real world diseases that you can overcome.

 

You must be one of the few then.

[Deathlove 2286]

But when you get the virus? If zombies are vectors then they need only scratch you to infect you and what then it would suck if a zombie could just hit you once and that's it you're dead no matter what. Would suck even worse if you had to take someones blood too since nobody would co-operate...

I think they should stick to real world diseases that you can overcome.

 

You must be one of the few then.

Don't make me play with your cat ears!

[Grimey Rick 3417]

*sigh* If you will go back to when it was taken out, the devs took the ability to wear both out since there were clipping problems. They are making another mask that won't have clipping problems, but it's lower priority since the mask serves no purpose at the moment. No petition needed for this.

 

I already stated that in my OP. I have not, however, seen any post from the developers claiming they're working on another mask to take its place. If it's not "important" enough to take a look at, then why did they remove the ability it in the first place? Why didn't they remove the ability to equip masks with the Cowboy Hat equipped?

 

You can go back and check their twitter when they took out the ability to wear both. People bitched and complained for days on end and they explained why many times on their twitter.

 

 

 

I sighed because people have proposed this before.

 

Source? I searched before I posted the thread.

Edited June 27, 2014 by Grimey Rick

[SFRGaming 718]

 

 

Also why the fuck is it low priority when it was a BIG priority in the supposed patch they took them out? Doesn't seem low priority to me if they had time to take them out of one of the major alpha patches.

Function > Apparel 

 

Keep in mind, items such as the cowboy hat were added after the removal of wearing a gas mask and ballistic helmet.

Edited June 27, 2014 by SFRGaming

[karlkurtz32 59]

I've noticing clipping worse on things that are still in the game.  Strange that they chose to single out this combo.  Definitely want it back.

[Khanarac 252]

Yea because I wanna idenfity noobs even more quickly! Just like it used to be. Gasmasks and glasses should however provide no additional protection from firearms, like they currently do. It's ridiculous.

Edited June 27, 2014 by Khanarac