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Hi, I had an idea for the cooking system.

Since there is no real reason why the cooking pot is less effective than a fire-pit to cook meat, I thought maybe "smoking" meat could be added, you know to keep it longer preserved.

Because when all systems and mechanics are active, the food is going to degrade.

I came on the idea with Sobieski Channel in the comment section of this video 

Sobieski suggested, when persistent objects exist, maybe one could build a smoke house? To smoke multiple meats and fish at the same time, thus creating a decent supply of smoked meat.

You know it can be as simple as this.

smokehouse-meat-smoker_sm.jpg


One could craft it simply with a fire pit, craft a smoke box with some wood (doesn't even need a tunnel), place the box in the fire (like the stones) and voila you've got yourself a smoke house.

 

what do you guys think?

Please expand on this idea, I think it might actually be a cool feature.

 

 

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Hey "Sobieski Channel" author here  :P

 

As for the idea overall, if the game is going after a realistic approach.

* Cooked food should be eaten readily after it's prepared, but in time it should start to rot due to no refrigeration in the world. 

 

Thus a way to conserve food and counter spoil / moldy food should be the ability to smoke the food.

* Beef jerky would be a perfect example

 

Creating a smoke house would be an end-game goal to achieve.

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Hey "Sobieski Channel" author here  :P

 

As for the idea overall, if the game is going after a realistic approach.

* Cooked food should be eaten readily after it's prepared, but in time it should start to rot due to no refrigeration in the world. 

 

Thus a way to conserve food and counter spoil / moldy food should be the ability to smoke the food.

* Beef jerky would be a perfect example

 

Creating a smoke house would be an end-game goal to achieve.

Also motivates people to actually setup a camping place, because it gives the opportunity to have decent food.

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I like this idea , id make jerky and moonshine out in the forest and wait for someone to come by or go blind trying.

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Hey "Sobieski Channel" author here  :P

 

As for the idea overall, if the game is going after a realistic approach.

* Cooked food should be eaten readily after it's prepared, but in time it should start to rot due to no refrigeration in the world. 

 

Thus a way to conserve food and counter spoil / moldy food should be the ability to smoke the food.

* Beef jerky would be a perfect example

 

Creating a smoke house would be an end-game goal to achieve.

How is that an end game goal?

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How is that an end game goal?

 

Building a base, having a smoke house in it. 

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i like the idea, have my beans.

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I would really love to have this,and with

the food degration on the horizon,it would make an excellent addition.

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How about salting food?  Not sure how long that takes though.

 

Normally takes about 2 weeks to fully "cure" the meat while smoking and salting meat over a fire could take up to a day/day and half to fully cure on a hot day.

 

For gameplay purposes I'd say to find pots or boxes of Table Salt in-game which can be used to cure meat, it can be added straight away for a flavour boost on some items or can be cooked to cure the meat. The longer it stays on a fire to be smoked and salted, the less chance of gaining an infection consuming it. For the record, home-made Jerky usually lasts upto 2-3 months while the factory manufactured stuff lasts for upto two years.

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Something that i think is important in DayZ is the prospect of preserving food you encounter in-game to prevent it from spoiling by finding Items in-game which aid in the preservation.

 

One such example is the addition of Jars which can be used as a core compenant in food preservation. In addition they can also be used as a substitute water bottle.

 

An example is that of the Kilner Jar, a rubber sealed, screw top jar used for preserving food.

old_kilner_jar.jpg

Some Preservation methods:

  • Salting - Involves Salting Meats to "cure" them, removing moisture and preventing bacteria from festering. Doesn't require a jar but takes a long time to prepare. Players should be able to find boxes of "table salt" which can be used to further enhance the flavor of foods and aid in preservation
  • Drying - Involves drying food to prevent bacteria from forming Same as above, takes a while to prepare.
  • Smoking - Involves a similar process to Salting/Drying.
  • Pickling - Players should be able to find Jars/Bottles of a Pickling agent which can be used for food preservation.
  • Fermenting - Placing Fruit or Vegetables in a Jar of Water will allow them to ferment, preserving them.
  • Jellying - Mostly used for Berries, can be mushed down into a jelly like paste.
  • Canning/Bottling - Stewing or Boiling food can be placed into Jars once cooked, preserving it for later use.
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Something that i think is important in DayZ is the prospect of preserving food you encounter in-game to prevent it from spoiling by finding Items in-game which aid in the preservation.

 

One such example is the addition of Jars which can be used as a core compenant in food preservation. In addition they can also be used as a substitute water bottle.

 

An example is that of the Kilner Jar, a rubber sealed, screw top jar used for preserving food.

old_kilner_jar.jpg

Some Preservation methods:

  • Salting - Involves Salting Meats to "cure" them, removing moisture and preventing bacteria from festering. Doesn't require a jar but takes a long time to prepare. Players should be able to find boxes of "table salt" which can be used to further enhance the flavor of foods and aid in preservation
  • Drying - Involves drying food to prevent bacteria from forming Same as above, takes a while to prepare.
  • Smoking - Involves a similar process to Salting/Drying.
  • Pickling - Players should be able to find Jars/Bottles of a Pickling agent which can be used for food preservation.
  • Fermenting - Placing Fruit or Vegetables in a Jar of Water will allow them to ferment, preserving them.
  • Jellying - Mostly used for Berries, can be mushed down into a jelly like paste.
  • Canning/Bottling - Stewing or Boiling food can be placed into Jars once cooked, preserving it for later use.

 

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Hi, I had an idea for the cooking system.

Since there is no real reason why the cooking pot is less effective than a fire-pit to cook meat, I thought maybe "smoking" meat could be added, you know to keep it longer preserved.

Because when all systems and mechanics are active, the food is going to degrade.

I came on the idea with Sobieski Channel in the comment section of this video 

Sobieski suggested, when persistent objects exist, maybe one could build a smoke house? To smoke multiple meats and fish at the same time, thus creating a decent supply of smoked meat.

You know it can be as simple as this.

smokehouse-meat-smoker_sm.jpg

One could craft it simply with a fire pit, craft a smoke box with some wood (doesn't even need a tunnel), place the box in the fire (like the stones) and voila you've got yourself a smoke house.

 

what do you guys think?

Please expand on this idea, I think it might actually be a cool feature.

You meant salting. Old people who lived during ww2 always buy loads of salt when there is a talk of war.

It's the best way of preserving meat fast and efficient. Every househould has it. Smoking is too time consuming.

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You meant salting. Old people who lived during ww2 always buy loads of salt when there is a talk of war.

It's the best way of preserving meat fast and efficient. Every househould has it. Smoking is too time consuming.

Well, that is true, salting is also a great idea.

But for game-play and fun's point of view I think smoking should be added to, even if it does not have realistic measures like hours of waiting, I think it would make surviving inside a camp interesting.

Like allot of people have mentioned before, its good that the game aims to be realistic, but it should not be hyper realistic. You know find a good balance between realism and fun, after all people need to want to play a game (this phrasing sounds weird sorry).

But I totally get your point. And salt in houses would be a common thing indeed.

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