Goddam Firestations 2 Posted May 27, 2014 Okay but like its called DayZ so I expected there to be zombies right, but like how on earth does shooting a zombie ONCE in the leg end up killing it? And how on earth does my character punch a zombie to death? Maybe its only because its alpha and keeping zombies easy to kill helps test other features of the game without dying as much (at least that's why I think its this way) but it doesn't seem too hard to make zombies headshot only. Or atleast take a crudton of bullets anywhere else. I mean this is DayZ after all, and come to think of it if zombies were this easy to kill HOW ON EARTH is this a post-apocolyptic situatuon?!? Lol well if the m4's the military was using were that unaccurate it'd make sense but seriously, back to the point:zombie too easyheadshot only plsmaybe shooting them in the legs breaks their legsand also more zombies but I understand atm cause my server's laggy enough as it isThank you for your patronage. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beck (DayZ) 1768 Posted May 27, 2014 (edited) zombie too easyZombies last patch were even easier to kill. The zombies in DayZ aren't your "shoot in the head to kill" zombies, they are just infected humans.I agree with the broken legs feature though, would be good. Edited May 27, 2014 by Beck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
victusmortuus 1074 Posted May 27, 2014 Zombies last patch were even easier to kill. The zombies in DayZ aren't your "shoot in the head to kill" zombies, they are just infected humans.I agree with the broken legs feature though, would be good. I know people say this and I know Rocket himself has said this but wouldn't this make Zombies a lot harder to kill, surely? Killing them and surviving would mean you need skill and if there were a lot of zombies then it'd be a scary experience were you'd have to have strong nerves to keep your shots/hits very accurate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beck (DayZ) 1768 Posted May 27, 2014 (edited) I know people say this and I know Rocket himself has said this but wouldn't this make Zombies a lot harder to kill, surely? Killing them and surviving would mean you need skill and if there were a lot of zombies then it'd be a scary experience were you'd have to have strong nerves to keep your shots/hits very accurate. You can't change the lore of a game... Edited May 27, 2014 by Beck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Whyherro123 2283 Posted May 27, 2014 Okay but like its called DayZ so I expected there to be zombies right, but like how on earth does shooting a zombie ONCE in the leg end up killing it? And how on earth does my character punch a zombie to death? Maybe its only because its alpha and keeping zombies easy to kill helps test other features of the game without dying as much (at least that's why I think its this way) but it doesn't seem too hard to make zombies headshot only. Or atleast take a crudton of bullets anywhere else. I mean this is DayZ after all, and come to think of it if zombies were this easy to kill HOW ON EARTH is this a post-apocolyptic situatuon?!? Lol well if the m4's the military was using were that unaccurate it'd make sense but seriously, back to the point:zombie too easyheadshot only plsmaybe shooting them in the legs breaks their legsand also more zombies but I understand atm cause my server's laggy enough as it isThank you for your patronage.1) If I were to shoot you in the leg with really any moderately-sized-and-powerful round, you would die. In your thigh, you have a major blood vessel called the "femoral artery". It is about an inch thick in adults, and if you so much as nick it, you will die from blood loss. Probably within less than 30 seconds, due to the extremely high pressure blood travels under.Even if I were to miss the femoral artery, you would still suffer from pretty serious blood loss. In behind your knee is another major blood vessel. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
victusmortuus 1074 Posted May 27, 2014 You can't change the lore of a game... That sounds like some sort of crazy religious fanatic stuff :P Honestly, for gameplay purposes I;d happily change the lore of a mod. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beck (DayZ) 1768 Posted May 27, 2014 That sounds like some sort of crazy religious fanatic stuff :P Honestly, for gameplay purposes I;d happily change the lore of a mod.If we were talking about mods I would have agreed with you, but then it's not really DayZ. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
victusmortuus 1074 Posted May 27, 2014 If we were talking about mods I would have agreed with you, but then it's not really DayZ. I understand where people are coming from the lore perspective but I can't really think of many ways on how we can make zombies an actual threat. Off the top of my head; Super Zombies? nope.Less powerful weaponry? nope Can you think of a way to make them a threat without unnecessary buffs and nerfs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sputter 12 Posted May 27, 2014 You can't change the lore of a game... But you can change the definition of zombie I guess... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UltimateGentleman 355 Posted May 27, 2014 Super Zombies? nope. Why not? I suggested this a while back, it would be cool if some crazy zombie spawned in every half our or so and everyone had to fight it or be hunted down one by one.Would encourage some co-operation. I don't think they should EVER make zombies only killable by headshots, they move too fast and aiming with a mouse is nothing like real life. In real life I could shove the barrel of my gun right in their face and blow their head open but with mouse aiming you're just swinging the gun around until it's pointing at something. If you could actually push zombies back and stun them a little, then maybe but zombies like they are now should not be headshot only.Shoot it in the spine and it's not walking after you, why should headshot only count? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
victusmortuus 1074 Posted May 27, 2014 Why not? I suggested this a while back, it would be cool if some crazy zombie spawned in every half our or so and everyone had to fight it or be hunted down one by one.Would encourage some co-operation. I don't think they should EVER make zombies only killable by headshots, they move too fast and aiming with a mouse is nothing like real life. In real life I could shove the barrel of my gun right in their face and blow their head open but with mouse aiming you're just swinging the gun around until it's pointing at something. If you could actually push zombies back and stun them a little, then maybe but zombies like they are now should not be headshot only.Shoot it in the spine and it's not walking after you, why should headshot only count? I aim for the head constantly in the mod and would in the Standalone if they didn't fly through walls and stuff. Super zombies to me are a cop-out to add a level of difficulty to an arcade styled game (Left 4 Dead, Dead Island ect). Aiming with a mouse is actually very accurate.. well that's the argument PC gamers say :) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UltimateGentleman 355 Posted May 27, 2014 I aim for the head constantly in the mod and would in the Standalone if they didn't fly through walls and stuff. Super zombies to me are a cop-out to add a level of difficulty to an arcade styled game (Left 4 Dead, Dead Island ect). Aiming with a mouse is actually very accurate.. well that's the argument PC gamers say :) Not accurate in relation to real life though.A zombie right in front of you hitting you you can't point your gun at the barrel would be going past them, guns be long. Headshots are only viable with a mouse when they're running at you from some distance away otherwise aiming is way too clumsy. There's no other way to make it difficult than making it unreasonably harsh like getting diseases near constantly and that would just suck no place is that dangerous, zombies are the only real way to make it dangerous so more types do that instead of making them ridiculous nigh invincible monsters when they are just people. I mean super as in like been tested on, like Patient Zero in whatever mod it is not like supernaturally super, Riot Gear zombies with functional armour could also work as super zombies, shooting them would do jack. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaphaelKA 0 Posted May 27, 2014 Nobody knows how is a real zombie because they don't exist and are ilogical creatures, not concering this world but a real of fantasy. That said... nobody dies of leg shooting, no matter if it's a .22 or a 20mm anti-tank rifle. Even if you shoot somebody 10 times in the leg, he won't die immediately. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
victusmortuus 1074 Posted May 27, 2014 Not accurate in relation to real life though.A zombie right in front of you hitting you you can't point your gun at the barrel would be going past them, guns be long. Headshots are only viable with a mouse when they're running at you from some distance away otherwise aiming is way too clumsy. There's no other way to make it difficult than making it unreasonably harsh like getting diseases near constantly and that would just suck no place is that dangerous, zombies are the only real way to make it dangerous so more types do that instead of making them ridiculous nigh invincible monsters when they are just people. I mean super as in like been tested on, like Patient Zero in whatever mod it is not like supernaturally super, Riot Gear zombies with functional armour could also work as super zombies, shooting them would do jack. Not a fan of Origins Patient 0 or the Blood sucker from Stalker, however Riot Gear zombies and zombies wearing armour is cool. Realism is up for interpretation when the game is unrealistic in many ways for gameplay purposes -infinite stamina- persistent storage remembered through death -tents-. The lore in Dayz is silly anyway and it's already broken as the 'lore' states that you wash up on the shore of Chernarus yet you can spawn in Novy..and magically have a flashlight and battery fully functioning. It's an alpha so testing these things and seeing the results is a great idea, surely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathlove 2286 Posted May 27, 2014 Everyone i am an expert on unicorns. They eat flesh,masturbate to Jerry Springer reruns and crap candy called twizzlers. You cannot change this lore EVER! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Whyherro123 2283 Posted May 27, 2014 That said... nobody dies of leg shooting, no matter if it's a .22 or a 20mm anti-tank rifle. Even if you shoot somebody 10 times in the leg, he won't die immediately.HAHAHAHAHAHA what? I strongly suggest you do some research, because you are simply wrong. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grimey Rick 3417 Posted May 27, 2014 ITT: Lead developer claims environmental enemies in-game are infected humans, proceeds to name game DayZ. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pycco 38 Posted May 27, 2014 (edited) Zombies last patch were even easier to kill. The zombies in DayZ aren't your "shoot in the head to kill" zombies, they are just infected humans.I agree with the broken legs feature though, would be good.ya...that sucks IMO, love zombies what do said infected humans eat if not flesh of there victims? Edited May 27, 2014 by pycco Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathlove 2286 Posted May 27, 2014 ya...that sucks IMO, love zombies what do said infected humans eat if not flesh of there victims?They apparently eat vegetables? XD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hombrecz 832 Posted May 27, 2014 Zombies are pretty much placeholder, as everybody knows, so I do not expect them being buffed before their pathfinding is fixed.Once they do not glitch through walls then yes, make them harder!! Also I am for nerfing the crazy Mike Tyson punching that we have now.Maybe do it so that hit person or zombie would stumble to the ground, but not these crazy comas after hit or two. Funny thing is, it is a lot harder to knock unconscious somebody with baseball hat compared to hit or two with fists O_o. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caboose187 (DayZ) 3036 Posted May 27, 2014 ITT: Lead developer claims environmental enemies in-game are infected humans, proceeds to name game DayZ.Z does not stand for Zombie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
agentneo 337 Posted May 27, 2014 please headshot only, an infected human wouldnt die from a shot to the foot either,Make all guns work almost like the sporter 22 (headshot only!!!)Zombies are gonna be too f easy.! On experimental even though they run through walls they are re balanced and die off one whack from melee again. Its so easy. I hope they make them much more violent and also give them more varied and random attack animations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boneboys 7988 Posted May 27, 2014 http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/182234-post-patch-zombie-feedback/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites