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Yea I like it, it looks great. But I want to see more civilian or hunting wear. More holsters for pistols in different styles. The current uk assault vest is already to easy to find..

Heh, perhaps they want to make ArmaZ instead 

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Heh, perhaps they want to make ArmaZ instead

I've nothing against mil gear but I want it to be really, really rare, maybe they are making ArmaZ... Oh wait the weapon ballistics say otherwise lol.

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Its going to make me look fluffy..

 

So Im all in! 

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What constitutes military gear for you folks? Last time I checked, the tactical vests they make for civilians are near indistinguishable from the ones they use in the military. Same applies for holsters. Short of making a leather holster with a pearl-handled .45 in it, what would be a "non-military" holster?

 

I mean, even hunting vests are just sort of... normal vests, painted orange.

 

Either way, I never understood why folks have such a beef with "military" gear... as if it beat up your sister. That and people have an insanely low and/or inconsistent threshold as to what constitutes a "military" item.

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i recently watched a documentary about some weird hunting guys from america, their 'outfit' would be considered a terrorist paramilatry organization here, so i guess there are cultural differences what is considered 'military' :D

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What constitutes military gear for you folks? Last time I checked, the tactical vests they make for civilians are near indistinguishable from the ones they use in the military. Same applies for holsters. Short of making a leather holster with a pearl-handled .45 in it, what would be a "non-military" holster?

 

I mean, even hunting vests are just sort of... normal vests, painted orange.

 

Either way, I never understood why folks have such a beef with "military" gear... as if it beat up your sister. That and people have an insanely low and/or inconsistent threshold as to what constitutes a "military" item.

If I wanted to play a military game I'd play Arma.  DayZ is about civilians, not soldiers, trying to survive in an apocalyptic world.  I don't disagree about having military items but they should be extremely hard to get.  As it is right now everyone is running around playing Battlefield Z.  And yes, this is subject to change at some point in the future but in case you haven't noticed, we've already got a tank thread, a multiple helicopter threads and multiple military weapon threads.  It's obvious what people want and if that is the route that BiS is going to take DayZ then oh well, it was only $30.

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If I wanted to play a military game I'd play Arma.  DayZ is about civilians, not soldiers, trying to survive in an apocalyptic world.  I don't disagree about having military items but they should be extremely hard to get.  As it is right now everyone is running around playing Battlefield Z.  And yes, this is subject to change at some point in the future but in case you haven't noticed, we've already got a tank thread, a multiple helicopter threads and multiple military weapon threads.  It's obvious what people want and if that is the route that BiS is going to take DayZ then oh well, it was only $30.

 

But it's about a militarized country. And you act as if it's a bad thing, as if it's somehow worse than having a purely "civilian" world... which DayZ has never claimed to be... ever.

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What constitutes military gear for you folks? Last time I checked, the tactical vests they make for civilians are near indistinguishable from the ones they use in the military. Same applies for holsters. Short of making a leather holster with a pearl-handled .45 in it, what would be a "non-military" holster?

I mean, even hunting vests are just sort of... normal vests, painted orange.

Either way, I never understood why folks have such a beef with "military" gear... as if it beat up your sister. That and people have an insanely low and/or inconsistent threshold as to what constitutes a "military" item.

Nothing against it at all I just want it to be rare, yet they seem to be making more endgame content as some would call it. I guess I use the term military gear completely wrong, I guess what I mean is high tier loot. I want to have to put up with low tier loot like civilian clothing, standard pistol hip holsters (police issue maybe) and actually work towards the high tier. Not just enter military barracks and come out looking like a spetsnaz operator.

Although I'm not complaining, this isn't the time for loot balancing but testing. I just don't want this stuff to be to common.

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Nothing against it at all I just want it to be rare, yet they seem to be making more endgame content as some would call it. I guess I use the term military gear completely wrong, I guess what I mean is high tier loot. I want to have to put up with low tier loot like civilian clothing, standard pistol hip holsters (police issue maybe) and actually work towards the high tier. Not just enter military barracks and come out looking like a spetsnaz operator.

Although I'm not complaining, this isn't the time for loot balancing but testing. I just don't want this stuff to be to common.

 

But, a tactical vest isn't god's gift to man. And it has civilian applications. And is a fairly widespread item, you can buy them for $25 bucks from a Chinese manufacturer. They aren't really the sole purview of the military.

 

Point being, there is a MASSIVE grey area. And ultimately, what someone says when they don't want too much military gear... is regarding the visual aesthetic, and not necessarily the functionality.

 

I have no issue with "military" gear being rare, inasmuch as its rarity justifies the actual advantage the item itself offers. Whether it's got a "military" or "civilian" aesthetic is irrelevant to me by comparison to the advantage it offers.

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Anyone else wanna see a hip holster and belts with different pockets you can attach up to three? I'd love to be able to strap a medkit to my ass like a fanny pack.

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its hunting gear. i had to learn about it too....

 

 

hunting gear i used to know:

 

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hunting gear i learned about from american documentaries:

 

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But, a tactical vest isn't god's gift to man. And it has civilian applications. And is a fairly widespread item, you can buy them for $25 bucks from a Chinese manufacturer. They aren't really the sole purview of the military.

Point being, there is a MASSIVE grey area. And ultimately, what someone says when they don't want too much military gear... is regarding the visual aesthetic, and not necessarily the functionality.

I have no issue with "military" gear being rare, inasmuch as its rarity justifies the actual advantage the item itself offers. Whether it's got a "military" or "civilian" aesthetic is irrelevant to me by comparison to the advantage it offers.

I know there not gods gift, but an item like this with the benefits it brings should be rare in DayZ for gameplays sake. You could say the same thing about tin openers, irl just about every house would have one in some form or another and you could open a tin without one anyway if you were starving to death. But wheres the challenge? The same can be said about backpacks, if the large capacity ones (hunting/military) spawned in abundance there would be no need to bother with the crappier ones, so more common civilian bags are added to dilute the loot and keep you searching.

I like the vest anyway so I'm not complaining, would just like more low tier stuff mixed in there like utility belts and hunting vest with bright orange on them. Make the good stuff that little more special.

Also to clarify its not the aesthetic or military style that bothers me but the benefits the item brings, it looks like it holds a lot of gear therefore should be rare is my reasoning. Military/civilian is a terrible way to define items and I agree with you that rarity should be based on the perks the items bring.

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Anyone else wanna see a hip holster and belts with different pockets you can attach up to three? I'd love to be able to strap a medkit to my ass like a fanny pack.

 

It seems like an obvious addition, but perhaps animation wise it is tricky? 

 

I'd love to see belts that have holsters, attachable tools and pouches.. ammo, medkits, etc.. with the weight system in bound it would just be a matter of trading space for movement. I would love to ditch a backpack, and be able to carry everything on my lower body, chest i.e. vests, belts, large volume clothing, etc. 

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its hunting gear. i had to learn about it too....

 

 

hunting gear i used to know:

 

9szpnIq.jpg

 

hunting gear i learned about from american documentaries:

 

hfxuMQD.jpg

Yeah that whole British look on the top is just as bad as the Red Coats gear of the 1700s. Youd stick out like a sore thumb and get shot lol.Cause lets be honest the military hunter look is more concealing. Your hunting humans not animals.

 

However for real world hunting the Duck Dynasty guys look freaking terrible. You don't need to go full commando to hunt a damn deer. I live in the USA  and i think this this a little bit overkill.

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Yeah that whole British look on the top is just as bad as the Red Coats gear of the 1700s. Youd stick out like a sore thumb and get shot lol.

Animals shoot?

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Animals shoot?

Was referring to if you were actually hunting humans in that get up lol.

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It seems like an obvious addition, but perhaps animation wise it is tricky?

I'd love to see belts that have holsters, attachable tools and pouches.. ammo, medkits, etc.. with the weight system in bound it would just be a matter of trading space for movement. I would love to ditch a backpack, and be able to carry everything on my lower body, chest i.e. vests, belts, large volume clothing, etc.

Same here, maybe a small 8 slot camo one, or that big vest up there.

I would love to see hotkeys you can assign to certain pockets and press them to open it, say your medkit pouch, ammo pouch, or backpack.

Can you already do this by dragging the backpack to the hotbar?

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*jockey from left 4 dead 2 sounds* More saline bags, MORE SALINE BAAAAGS!

 

That said I'd like to see a fishing vest as well instead of all the military and hunting style stuff, just a plain old fishing vest with brightly colored lures and such sticking out of it.

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It seems like an obvious addition, but perhaps animation wise it is tricky? 

 

I'd love to see belts that have holsters, attachable tools and pouches.. ammo, medkits, etc.. with the weight system in bound it would just be a matter of trading space for movement. I would love to ditch a backpack, and be able to carry everything on my lower body, chest i.e. vests, belts, large volume clothing, etc. 

 

it depends what you define as 'tricky'. creating a skeleton, hierarchies and rigging it to have a character model with  proper animations and physics-affected attachments like hair, coattails, shouldered weapons or bags and holsters isnt black magic, but its a few weeks work. 

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Does BI use motion capture? It seems to me it'd be a lot easier to make the animations when someone's doing them.

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Does BI use motion capture? It seems to me it'd be a lot easier to make the animations when someone's doing them.

 

Yeah, and Rocket himself started out (IIRC) as a mocap... er.... guy for BIS.

 

Could be way off.

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The lack of belts is probably more to do with having to add another inventory "slot."  I mean I suppose you could make it take the same one as vests/holsters as a chest slot, but then you're going to be able to wear belts but not vests which wouldn't make a lot of sense.

 

Rocket has said in the past they can actually add as many different slots in that regard as they like, but while I forget his reasoning precisely, I think it was basically along the lines of having to draw a line some where.

You never know though.

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Yeah that whole British look on the top is just as bad as the Red Coats gear of the 1700s. Youd stick out like a sore thumb and get shot lol.Cause lets be honest the military hunter look is more concealing. Your hunting humans not animals.

 

However for real world hunting the Duck Dynasty guys look freaking terrible. You don't need to go full commando to hunt a damn deer. I live in the USA  and i think this this a little bit overkill.

I've never understood why certain hunters wear all camo clothing when hunting. When I hunt, I wear sensible, comfortable clothing, like jeans, wool sweaters,, comfortable boots, and rain gear.

If you are doing it right: the animal isn't going to see you anyways. You are either going to be in a tree stand (deer don't look up), or in a groundblind. That extra layer of camo isn't going to hide you if you get spotted, and you have to wear blaze orange ANYWAYS. 

TLDR: people buy and wear "hunter camo" because they think it is cool, and because all of the people they watch on TV tell them to. I have a friend who goes hunting, and owns a full set of hunter camo. Whole shebang probably cost him $200-$300. I own a wool sweater, some comfortable broken-in cargo jeans and boots, and i am a hell of a lot more comfortable than he is. We both have the same number of deer taken, so apparently the "clothing does not make the man" in this case.

Granted, I do own a milsurp set of BDU,s but that is for camping/my wilderness survival training course, not hunting.

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its hunting gear. i had to learn about it too....

 

 

hunting gear i used to know:

 

9szpnIq.jpg

 

hunting gear i learned about from american documentaries:

 

hfxuMQD.jpg

typical american 

i bet those ducks they were hunting had weapons of mass destruction....   at least the cia told em that.

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typical american 

i bet those ducks they were hunting had weapons of mass destruction....   at least the cia told em that.

What a xenophobic asshole.

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