Why is the Dayz community so bad?

[almf3 3]

I find it hilarious that people like you come on games and act tough and think it's so fun to mess with other people. It's such an obvious sign of how pathetic you are out in the world. "I'll shoot you just because and I think it's amusing". Good, you're an asshole and you enjoy it. Fine. Obviously you're not very intelligent since you couldn't raise an actual point in any of the responses you had on the original point since you weren't able to catch the details of it but I hope you're at least smart enough to realize no one thinks you're cool for coming on here and showing what an idiot you are or being an asshole in game. People like you are used to other not liking them, so you do shitty little things so you can control the reason they don't like you instead of it just simply being that you're kind of pathetic and unlikable in the first place. Whatever works I guess.

[almf3 3]

Oh I don't think I'm gonna hop on the game and be laughing and messing around like some other games haha. It's a tense game that has those tense moments built in and that's why it's enjoyable and somewhat addicting. It's not like a lot of other games, more variety and possibilities. The issue was just that someone made a server and just asked that it be somewhere that people could explore the world and see what was there and get a feel for it and that people still can't do something as small as respect that for a little while. It's disheartening. If there were only a few servers and it were an official one, yeah, no right to ask that. But there's plenty of other options, decency should let you just find one of those if the regular experience is what you're looking for. It was really nice to have one for a bit where you could really just kinda see and work on the mechanics. I don't think that's a bad thing.

[Bororm 1156]

almf3 you really need to reevaluate your stance on online gaming as you are completely wrong.

 

It's a video game, the people you're bitching about realize that, while you clearly don't.  The issue is you can't separate reality from a game, and thus you are letting your emotions carry over.  You're getting upset about something that has no real world implications at all.  Take a step back and realize that DayZ is a game in which you are free to do what you like, and some people like to act like assholes in it.  That's their choice and has no relevance to who they are as real people.  That is the point of a game, to be able to do things you can't/don't do in real life.

 

Make your own fun and quit worrying about other people's motivations.

[KingOfTime 267]

Sorry couldn't hear you over all the crying, sounds like a woman is crying in here. 

 

http://youtu.be/4Z3s1fJgCEE?t=31s

You are definitely being a dickbag. And a sexist dickbag at that.

 

MODS- Could we get some....er, moderation?

 

[almf3 3]

No, that's a bullshit argument. Obviously games are a bit of an escape and they're all about letting you do things you normally can't. None of us are racing exotic cars or killing zombies or are soldiers running around pistoling and quick scoping people. And none of us are running around killing people on in the world. But how you choose to interact with people is a part of your personality. Maybe you take shit all day and you like to get on something like that and mess with people and blow off steam, doesn't make you a criminal but it does have something to do with your personality and it is a reflection on you. Nothing any of us ever do, ever, in any context, is not a reflection on who we are as a person. We do the things we do because of the person we are. Not saying being an asshole is the worst thing on the planet but there's not get out of jail free card on it.

[Bororm 1156]

You are still approaching this without the realization that a good amount of these people being assholes in game understand that it is entirely fictional, and thus it is not a reflection of who they are because they are actively choosing to be something different.

 

Being an asshole in game does not inherently make you any bit of an asshole out of it, subconsciously or not.

 

Now jumping to conclusions and calling people assholes irl because of their in game actions.  That does make you an asshole.

Edited May 1, 2014 by Bororm

[almf3 3]

And I don't mean that to come off as confrontational or mean spirited. My context might come across that way after arguing with Nex. The point just was if you know people are playing a game and you're intentionally set on disrupting that and ruining that for them simply because you enjoy it and it amuses you, that's completely a reflection of you as a human being. If you run up on me and shoot me in the back because you see a gun I have and you need it, completely in the context of the game and it sucks for me but that's what I signed up for. If you do it because you think it's gonna make me aggravated or you're not supposed to, you're an asshole. Intention is everything.

[almf3 3]

That's still a completely contradicting argument. You choosing to be an asshole for whatever reason, makes you an asshole. If I choose to go out and kill someone, I'm a killer. If I choose to go out and help little old ladies across the street, I'm a good guy. You can't choose to be something, do the action and then not be that. There's hackers that go in the mod still and glitch around and ruin people's games for fun. Obviously they can't do that in real life, does that mean they're not being an ass? Of course they are, they're intentionally doing it. The motive and the ends are the same, just the means are different.

[almf3 3]

And I responded based on his response, there were plenty of people who didn't agree with my view and I have absolutely no problem with that. The game isn't to me what it is to them and they take different enjoyments and frustrations from it I'm sure. He conducted him self like an ass and I simply called him out on it. And I've certainly been an asshole back to him and I've got no problem saying it.

[nexventor 429]

You are definitely being a dickbag. And a sexist dickbag at that.

 

MODS- Could we get some....er, moderation?

 

 

Lol how is that sexist? You are just confirming the mental state of some of the posters in this thread.

 

The OP has a cry about how some people play the game, I show him why it is that way. He cries some more, starts throwing a tantrum calling people assholes and cunts and I am the dickbag.

 

 

Bahahahaha you guys are so cute when you are mad.

[Bororm 1156]

Again you're not differentiating between real life and a game.  If you go around killing people in a game, no you are not a killer.  You're a killer in the game, that's a fictional world, but that doesn't make you a killer in real life.  Real life actions matter, not in game actions, they are separate.

 

It's on you not them to determine how you handle a situation, and I'd suggest that if you know a person finds it fun to aggravate you, you stop getting aggravated.  It's as simple as that, you can't be griefed if you don't allow yourself to be and the easiest way is to either ignore them or remove yourself from the situation.  These people are probably on the other side of the world from you and you're never going to meet them, you probably won't even see them again in game.

 

Play to make your own fun, if you don't have fun interacting with particular people, move on.  Throwing around insults about who they are as actual human beings isn't going to get you any where, and isn't relevant.

[nexventor 429]

And I responded based on his response, there were plenty of people who didn't agree with my view and I have absolutely no problem with that. The game isn't to me what it is to them and they take different enjoyments and frustrations from it I'm sure. He conducted him self like an ass and I simply called him out on it. And I've certainly been an asshole back to him and I've got no problem saying it.

 

No you responded like a child, who lost his bottle.

[almf3 3]

No, I responded by showing you that you weren't intelligent enough to actually make a point based on the details of the original message. And instead of being able to comprehend it and having a rational response and being able to state it eloquently, you chose to act like an asshole. So not only did you highlight the fact that you're an idiot, you also showcased your personality flaws. So yes, you're a moron.

[nexventor 429]

Lol, keep going with the name calling it definitely strengthens your argument... oh wait what.

 

I dissected your whole post but because you didn't agree with it you started to act like this....

[Bororm 1156]

I'm not seeing where he was an asshole with his first post.  He gave you some good advice and addressed the different facets of your original post.  He didn't insult you, besides saying you were whining.  Which to be fair, you basically were.

 

I mean if you wanna psychoanalzye people you may want to start with yourself and why you immediately jump to personal insults almf3.

Edited May 1, 2014 by Bororm

[almf3 3]

And Bororm, you killing me in the game doesn't make you a killer. You killing me in game to get something makes you an opportunist. You killing me because you think I might kill you makes you reactionary. You killing me in a server where the admin asks that people don't so they can explore other aspects of the game for a bit and you do it anyways because you think it's funny to mess up those players games, makes you an asshole. It has nothing to do with the in game world. If I go and slap a basket ball out of your hand whole your on a court messing around because I think it's funny to act like that, I'm an asshole. There's absolutely no difference. I sat down for a few minutes after I got settled in, hopped on a very particular server to try and get a particular experience from the game and someone intentionally disrupted that simply to get that aggravation from me and whoever else he did it to. That completely makes that person an asshole. Just like someone who glitches or hacks and goes after people is an asshole. If you got killed by a hacker it wouldn't be enjoyable. It's the exact same thing. It's not a hard concept. If you intend to be an asshole to someone, you're an asshole.

[qww 287]

op i think community is fine, i think you are "bad",

claiming the dayz community is so bad, because you dont understand the concept

 

play more hours, always go on full servers, try staying alive, experience what you will have to do to stay alive, then get back to  this post and appologise

[almf3 3]

You dissected it while completely ignoring the entire premise of the argument while making the context of what you were saying very clear. I responded accordingly. Your point by point responses completely disregarded what was intended by the post in the first place.

[mithrawndo 166]

To the OP: The real dick bag in this story was the admin of the server you joined. S/He was well aware that Bohemia Interactive do not permit "friendly" servers (they keep a very tight leash on who is allowed to host; there's no downloading the server files and running your own server!*). They tricked you with the name of their server: It was all a ruse to get them some cheap and easy kills from naive players - I'm genuinely sorry. You see the same thing with people making server marked as "24/7 Night server" to discourage people from joining... even though the server list shows the time on the server as 10am!

If you come across servers like these again, report them. There's a thread around somewhere with instructions on how to do this.

Being an asshole in game does not inherently make you any bit of an asshole out of it, subconsciously or not.

 

I could not disagree with this more: If you feel inclined to punish people for fun, that's known as Sadism. Christians and Judaists think this is a bad thing (possibly other cultural groupings too), but I'm personally more open minded about it. However don't delude yourself into thinking that the shitty things you do in make-believe aren't representative of your mental state - and if you allow yourself to be introspective (as I often try with post mortem sessions after this and other games with strange themes), I'm sure you'll conclude that this is a mightily disturbing view into your psyche. To analogise, how would you react if you found your kids playing a game, and one of your kids had tied up the other and was force feeding them soda "for fun"?

 

If you do a google search for it, you'll find there have been multiple studies done into the phenomena of internet trolling and cyber bullying and all of them have so far concluded that the behaviour patterns elicited are very much representative of sociopathic and psychopathic individuals. Most however conclude that having these outlets are actually a good thing as they prevent these activities from occurring in the real world!

[almf3 3]

No, I'm definitely not apologizing. I've spent plenty of time on the game and I'm quite aware of the concept of the game, it's the reason I bought it. If I wanted a straight exploration game I would've got one. If I wanted a straight shooter, I would be got one. I got this for the unpredictability. And when it was just a mod I played the hell out of it, for quite a while. So I'm quite familiar with the game and concept. It's people like hackers and glitchers and people who intentionally do things to ruin other people experience that I take issue with. Apparently people who are "reading" the post aren't really READING it.

[bastins 14]

NexVentor, I really don't need a morality lesson on the game from you asshole.

 

 

No, you obviously have a hard time with comprehension.

 

 

Yeah Nex, that's a reply of an idiot that had his point discounted and doesn't have anything intelligent to add. Thanks for participating, go back to being an ass in the game and a bitch in real life now.

 

 

No, I responded by showing you that you weren't intelligent enough to actually make a point based on the details of the original message. And instead of being able to comprehend it and having a rational response and being able to state it eloquently, you chose to act like an asshole. So not only did you highlight the fact that you're an idiot, you also showcased your personality flaws. So yes, you're a moron.

 

For someone wondering why the DayZ community is so "bad," you're not doing a very good job setting an example.

[qww 287]

no i read the whole original post

 

you were upset because you asked someoen if they needed help and they killed you

 

the title of the post is "dayz community is so bad"

 

i am telling you that its you that is bad, not the community in general.

 

you dont have a clue what you are doing in game,your op clearly shows your complete inexperience,

 

why are you now changing your story to" oh no its the hackers i have a problem with", there is no mention of this in the op

[almf3 3]

Mithrawndo,I understand what you mean about the servers but I didn't take it as a guarantee of safety. I still avoided most contact and interaction because there's obviously that chance. The settings weren't changed so the most it could really be is a suggestion or encouraged behavior. My only disappointment was that there were bound to people that joined simply to exploit the intentions everyone else joined that server with. It's more just the proverbial straw than anything. It's unfortunately becoming a constant in online gaming that you'll come across people who simply seek to taint other people's experience for their own amusement or whatever need they have. I enjoy hoping on something like battlefield and wiping someone out just like anyone else but I wouldn't do that to someone on my own team to aggravate them just for kicks. I think it's a symptom of people not wanting any kind of accountability or responsibility. It's a "I can do whatever here to anyone one and it doesn't matter to me". That still effects other people and it does matter even if it's to a very small extent.

[Bororm 1156]

You guys keep making these analogies that are real life scenarios.  Hitting a basketball out of a persons hand in real life is being an asshole, yes.  Finding your kids tying each other up and force feeding them in real life is disturbing, yes.  The difference is this is a video game, it is make believe and if you realize that then no, it is not a reflection on yourself because you have made that differentiation between reality and not.

 

Do real life assholes play DayZ and also act like assholes in game?  Sure.  The opposite is also likely true.  My issue is with jumping to the conclusion that because of the way a person acts in a game they must be that way in real life.

 

If I'm going to ruin your day in a game, and you decide to let that get to you out of game, I'm sorry but that's your responsibility not mine.  I can't be responsible for what you find fun, that's purely subjective.

[Bororm 1156]

Mithrawndo,I understand what you mean about the servers but I didn't take it as a guarantee of safety. I still avoided most contact and interaction because there's obviously that chance. The settings weren't changed so the most it could really be is a suggestion or encouraged behavior. My only disappointment was that there were bound to people that joined simply to exploit the intentions everyone else joined that server with. It's more just the proverbial straw than anything. It's unfortunately becoming a constant in online gaming that you'll come across people who simply seek to taint other people's experience for their own amusement or whatever need they have. I enjoy hoping on something like battlefield and wiping someone out just like anyone else but I wouldn't do that to someone on my own team to aggravate them just for kicks. I think it's a symptom of people not wanting any kind of accountability or responsibility. It's a "I can do whatever here to anyone one and it doesn't matter to me". That still effects other people and it does matter even if it's to a very small extent.

 

Again, I think you need to stop worrying about other people's motivations.  You'll have a better time.