Maybe the reason why they haven't added bicycles?

[Loopest 60]

So I think I figured out why they haven't been able to add bicycles...

 

You guys know how characters get saved across all hives? Well maybe they are trying to figure out how they are going to save bikes across every server...

 

Just an idea...

[Deathlove 2286]

Naw, saving vehicles across all severs would be OP. If ppl really want the vehicles they SHOULD stay dedicated to one server to get the most out of the experience.

[hrdrok 183]

I don't think they intend to have vehicles save across servers. That way people don't hoard vehicles from other servers.

[p4triot 207]

They wont, vehicles are bound to server.

Edited April 27, 2014 by p4triot

[kichilron 8550]

Even though vehicles are bound to specific server one still has to implement the necessary bits, so it gets saved.

 

As far as saving vehicles across servers: how would that work? Someone drives that bicycle and it magically drives itself on the other server? For that simple reason it's impossible to have them globally - you are the only one playing your character, which is why that is possible. This does not apply for vehicles, however.

[Dagwood 680]

The people asking for vehicles confuse me. Our characters run faster cross country than bikes ever got us places in the mod. Is a 20 minute run across the map really that bad?

But if it would get the kiddies off of the coast I guess it's a good thing.

[Deathlove 2286]

The people asking for vehicles confuse me. Our characters run faster cross country than bikes ever got us places in the mod. Is a 20 minute run across the map really that bad?

But if it would get the kiddies off of the coast I guess it's a good thing.

Have you played the mod? The bicycles are 100%s better than going on foot. In fact i would dare say they were one of the best vehicles overall in the mod. They are quite, have no issue going fast offroad, and require VERY little maintenance compared to allot of the heavier vehicles that require engines and a buttload of other things to make work right. Trust me you find a bike you will cherish it when you do find one.

[scriptfactory 620]

Does it make sense to save vehicles on the server but save character locations globally? What happens if I am traveling across the countryside and am disconnected? If I join a new server will I lose my vehicle?

Edited April 27, 2014 by scriptfactory

[Deathlove 2286]

Does it make sense to save vehicles on the server but save character locations globally? What happens if I am traveling across the countryside and am disconnected? If I join a new server will I lose my vehicle?

Yes thats why you put the servers you stay on the most as your favorites.

[scriptfactory 620]

Yes thats why you put the servers you stay on the most as your favorites.

 

But if I am driving a vehicle I kinda' see it as my equipment. Does this mean we won't be able to transfer our vehicles to other servers like Rocket mentioned?

[Dagwood 680]

But I already run 15mph. And everybody is on the eastern most fourth of the map. In the mod we were slow enough to warrant the need for light vehicles like bikes.

When the game is closer to complete and we actually need to hoard survival equipment and build camps, vehicles will be necessary. But atm all vehicles would do is over stimulate the addoral jockeys that are already ruining this game.

[Deathlove 2286]

But if I am driving a vehicle I kinda' see it as my equipment. Does this mean we won't be able to transfer our vehicles to other servers like Rocket mentioned?

Probably not id imagine. Idk just seems to immersion breaking if you ask me.

[p4triot 207]

When vehicles are added people will start playing on same server and ghosting and server hopping will become much less of a factor, except for lone wolves who don't give a shit about vehicles. But right now those are top everything (gear) and when vehicles and bases are added, even if they have top gear, not being bound to a server will imply being on a huge disadvantadge towards those who are.

 

At least was like that back in the mod.

 

Bound vehicles make sense, if not, clans would just hoard Helis and all sort of vehicles from different servers and put them together in one server, turning this into battlefield 3. And no, thanks. I already have BF3 for that.

 

P.D: what makes a lot more sense is having some way to logout with YOUR vehicle, making things still fair for everyone though. Because back in the mod, one of the big problems was losing your vehicles simply when you were not playing because you were busy with RL. If I gotta lose my vehicle, ok, but I'd rather lose it "on track" while defending whats mine, not because im at the office.

Edited April 27, 2014 by p4triot

[Gekkonidae 270]

I think they will keep it like the mod. Vehicles bound to one server. So hide them well and they will likely not be taken by other people.

[gibonez 3633]

Reason they havent added bicycles is because whats the point ?

 

Your character already runs at 15 mph whats the point of adding a bicycle that is marginally faster.

 

I really hope they slow down the player speed depending on the more gear they have and the more weight they have.

[Deathlove 2286]

When vehicles are added people will start playing on same server and ghosting and server hopping will become much less of a factor, except for lone wolves who don't give a shit about vehicles. But right now those are top everything (gear) and when vehicles and bases are added, even if they have top gear, not being bound to a server will imply being on a huge disadvantadge towards those who are.

 

At least was like that back in the mod.

 

Bound vehicles make sense, if not, clans would just hoard Helis and all sort of vehicles from different servers and put them together in one server, turning this into battlefield 3. And no, thanks. I already have BF3 for that.

 

P.D: what makes a lot more sense is having some way to logout with YOUR vehicle, making things still fair for everyone though. Because back in the mod, one of the big problems was losing your vehicles simply when you were not playing because you were busy with RL. If I gotta lose my vehicle, ok, but I'd rather lose it "on track" while defending whats mine, not because im at the office.

Vacant vehicles and forts in honesty would and should be fair game. The logging out with your vehicles would provide advantages and an OP kind of sense in itself especially if its a vehicle with guns and armor.

 

Maybe booby trapping vehicles and bases should be a thing that way they might have an advantage but at least the person who owns them does too.

[blissandpanic 92]

 

 

P.D: what makes a lot more sense is having some way to logout with YOUR vehicle, making things still fair for everyone though. Because back in the mod, one of the big problems was losing your vehicles simply when you were not playing because you were busy with RL. If I gotta lose my vehicle, ok, but I'd rather lose it "on track" while defending whats mine, not because im at the office.

That's a good idea but will another vehicle spawn? because when 30 ppl log out for the day the server will be missing 30 vehicles for example.On the flip side if they re-spawn and those players come back...well you will end up with 60 vehicles.

 

I think if ppl can break into your camp while you are offline, then they should be able to do the same to your vehicle.

 

Of course you can hide your camp and vehicle in a remote spot and add booby traps and such and then do a little prayer before you head to work that morning.  ;)

 

Edit: i type so slow by the time i finished the post someone else made the point. Oh well, beanzz to ya good sir :beans:

Edited April 27, 2014 by BlissAndPanic

[Deathlove 2286]

That's a good idea but will another vehicle spawn? because when 30 ppl log out for the day the server will be missing 30 vehicles for example.On the flip side if they re-spawn and those players come back...well you will end up with 60 vehicles.

 

I think if ppl can break into your camp while you are offline, then they should be able to do the same to your vehicle.

 

Of course you can hide your camp and vehicle in a remote spot and add booby traps and such and then do a little prayer before you head to work that morning.  ;)

Again vehicles with guns and armor would break this idea in two if they were allowed to log out with them. Imagine going about doing whatever than a guy spawns outta nowhere with an armored humvee or tank and blows you way. Wouldn't be very fun would it? lol

[Deathlove 2286]

Stuff like this would be appropriate for car traps i think.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOpNtEQysTU

 

I don't condone anything like this in real life just making a point.

 

[blissandpanic 92]

Again vehicles with guns and armor would break this idea in two if they were allowed to log out with them. Imagine going about doing whatever than a guy spawns outta nowhere with an armored humvee or tank and blows you way. Wouldn't be very fun would it? lol

Agreed, that's why i stated that you should hide it in your camp and hope no one finds them both.

 

Last thing i want to see is an entire armored division logging in my front lawn!

[Deathlove 2286]

Agreed, that's why i stated that you should hide it in your camp and hope no one finds them both.

 

Last thing i want to see is an entire armored division logging in my front lawn!

It would bring new meaning to the term "Ghost Division" lol

[.Ender. 42]

Like Deathlove said, remain dedicated to a server if you plan on investing time into anything beyond your characters possessions.

Part of the game is having to travel on foot, as in a real life situation you wont necessarily have unlimited fuel to syphon or good tires/brakes and things to get you around constantly. You will rely on energy efficient travel, IE bicycles. Even then you run into issues with chains and tires (if you have air tube ones). besides, most of the vehicles you DO find in DayZ environments are older. This means crappy plugs, contaminated fuel, seized parts, etc.

 

I think people just like to complain about anything they can...they want 'this' then get it, and now its not good enough. This is a survival game. Do you remember when DayZ FIRST started? People were not INTENDED on living beyond a few hours. Even the intro to the site shows the average length of lifespan for characters... Now you invest hours into your character and get pissed if the character dies and you have to start over. That's how the game was indented. Vehicles, pets, houses, etc is moving the game into a totally different direction from how the game started out. they're convenient but really..its all about survival without life's commodities. if you want to invest, go play City Life lol

[korpisoturi (DayZ) 127]

I'm already seeing it with my eyes. 50 helis on one server :rolleyes:

 

Nope

[Deathlove 2286]

Like Deathlove said, remain dedicated to a server if you plan on investing time into anything beyond your characters possessions.

Part of the game is having to travel on foot, as in a real life situation you wont necessarily have unlimited fuel to syphon or good tires/brakes and things to get you around constantly. You will rely on energy efficient travel, IE bicycles. Even then you run into issues with chains and tires (if you have air tube ones). besides, most of the vehicles you DO find in DayZ environments are older. This means crappy plugs, contaminated fuel, seized parts, etc.

 

I think people just like to complain about anything they can...they want 'this' then get it, and now its not good enough. This is a survival game. Do you remember when DayZ FIRST started? People were not INTENDED on living beyond a few hours. Even the intro to the site shows the average length of lifespan for characters... Now you invest hours into your character and get pissed if the character dies and you have to start over. That's how the game was indented. Vehicles, pets, houses, etc is moving the game into a totally different direction from how the game started out. they're convenient but really..its all about survival without life's commodities. if you want to invest, go play City Life lol

To be honest the vehicles, tents, pets and houses ALL are very much intended as an end game survival aspect if you live long enough. I think these kind of things SHOULD be rewarded to players but they take just as much work and risk taking to obtain. They would still take insane amounts of survival skills to keep up on as well as defend against. Having a base will expose you allot to dont forget but the rewards should be just as much to compensate for the increased dangers.

 

If they added a layer of minecraft building with greater ease of where to place objects and how they look i think it would add a nice depth to it. But anything that requires a generator should require much care to maintain. As well as things like attracting more zombies to your location with increased lighting source as well as bandits and heroes alike.

[.Ender. 42]

Well I think vehicles were a pretty cool addition to the mod, but they should be hard to get running. You can either make fuel extremely rare and hard to get to (put fuel in areas controlled by snipers, high counts of zombies, areas you're exposed),  or just simply make parts very rare to find. The 'end game' aspect of DayZ should be just as hard to maintain as when you start out, the biggest difference is you have A LOT more to lose if you die later on in the game. But, like in the mod, dying wasn't a big deal because you have so much stuff at 'base camp' where you are easily careless with needing to survive and you can just regear at any time..thats no fun.

 

How will real-estate work if people are hording areas or constantly ransacking other peoples stuff? (destroying it or building infront/ontop of someone elses things).

I think one interesting thing in State of Decay I noticed, was you can establish outposts and have any nearby zeds taken care of if you replenish your defenses. Essentially creating safe-zones. But all of this only leads the veterean players to have all of the advantages and new players to either join a community and hope to be accepted or fend for themselves when they're killed for 'trespassing' or because they have no where to turn to because all the loot zones and good areas are taken up.