SSD smashing the fps in cities

[Hetstaine 10852]

Yes, clean install is the best thing you can do and all should be ok. But when just using a migration tool or installing the SSD as a further mass storage you better run the performance index.

 

"I was geting periods of seconds of inactivity in Svetlo, and it was a stuttery clusterfuck at best"

 

If you have the last official drivers for your NVIDIA card installed, try the 337.50 beta driver. There was a problem which causes pauses/freezes of up to 5 seconds or so, at least on my GTX670. It is gone with the 337.50s.

No way was i doing a migration, clean was the only way to go :) Drivers are always up to date, unless the latest or beta is worse than older one obviously :)

[Hetstaine 10852]

Like most things DayZ/Arma mileage seems to vary depending on the moon cycle.

 

SSD  Huge gain

 

SSD performance

 

Good vid on HDD testing with Arma

[kichilron 8550]

Like most things DayZ/Arma mileage seems to vary depending on the moon cycle.

 

 

Anyone that has ever done the change from HDD to SSD with any BIS game has reported to have more FPS. This whole "only the loadtime is quicker" is coming mainly from people that were playing World of Warcraft before and haven't actually tested it themselves. It's assuming, what they're doing, not knowing.

[Jex 1104]

Perhaps the OP just had a really bad HDD which wasn't loading all the objects and textures quickly enough and just moving to a new drive fixed the issue. 

[lauda 44]

 

Anyone that has ever done the change from HDD to SSD with any BIS game has reported to have more FPS. This whole "only the loadtime is quicker" is coming mainly from people that were playing World of Warcraft before and haven't actually tested it themselves. It's assuming, what they're doing, not knowing.

 

The only thing a faster storage can do is improve loading times, in no way it can help to calculate graphics or gamemechanics.

I see this as two different things. Of course it can raise the average fps a little due to shorter stutters. But if it stutters a lot you have a problem anyway. I don´t want stutters be it short or long. So in this case i would think about more ram, reduced quality settings, better pc or misconfiguration of any kind

Edited April 23, 2014 by lauda

[kichilron 8550]

The only thing a faster storage can do is improve loading times, in no way it can help to calculate graphics or gamemechanics.

 

This is for ARMA 2, but you get the point:

 

RESULTS: (Benchmark over 60 seconds)

HDD: FPS

• Min:22
• Max:27
• Average: 24

​SSD: FPS

• Min: 35
• Max: 52
• Average: 44

Edited April 23, 2014 by kichilron

[DarkwaveDomina 1099]

This whole "only the loadtime is quicker" is coming mainly from people that were playing World of Warcraft before and haven't actually tested it themselves. It's assuming, what they're doing, not knowing.

I have owned multiple SSDs now, and various gimmicky mechanical HDDs including Raptors and hybrid SSDs, and have never seen an actual FPS improvement in games. All I have consistently seen is faster load times and much less texture pop-in, and believe me I am not some retard who has only tested it with WoW.

The fact is that Hetstaine is talking about cities in DayZ Standalone, and as much as I respect him as a poster generally I just don't see what he sees. My FPS plummets to 18 in places like Svetlojarsk and stays there, this is a known issue with the game according to Rocket himself.

Edited April 23, 2014 by DarkwaveDomina

[lauda 44]

Sorry, max 27 vs max 52 just due to an SSD can´t be a valid measurement. There must have been something wrong.

 

It´s too much work, otherwise i would test it myself. Anyway, i have no problem when people are buying SSDs ;)

[hombrecz 832]

Here is nice guide for all your SSD settings needs, both Win7 and Win8. Some Sean chap did very good job, beans to him.

Don't be discouraged by how complex it is. It is easily navigated and have even youtube how-to vids.

 

Covers pretty much everything.

 

http://www.overclock.net/t/1156654/seans-windows-7-install-optimization-guide-for-ssds-hdds

Edited April 23, 2014 by Hombre

[djporternz 644]

Don't know :) Huge improvement my end though.

At a guess, I'd suggest the speed increase could be simply from the increase in swap speed if your swap file is now on the SSD. I don't see any mechanism that would affect FPS otherwise. An SSD can only affect transfer speeds between drive and memory, it can't affect graphics rendering in any other way!

Edited April 23, 2014 by DJPorterNZ

[DMack 60]

 

Here is nice guide for all your SSD settings needs, both Win7 and Win8. Some Sean chap did very good job, beans to him.

Don't be discouraged by how complex it is. It is easily navigated and have even youtube how-to vids.

 

Covers pretty much everything.

 

http://www.overclock.net/t/1156654/seans-windows-7-install-optimization-guide-for-ssds-hdds

 

I'm a long time OC forum member and overclocker. I've been running an i7 overclocked to 5.0Gig on liquid with an SSD and a GTX 680 for over a year now. That is a great SSD optimization guide. I've been running with all these tweaks for a while.

 

Beans for the posting the guide Hombre, I was going to do the same thing after I was done reading this thread but you beat me to it.

 

Also, don't forget to UNPARK YOUR CORES if you're running Windows7! If you don't know what it means JFGI.

[VatiXerid 13]

I have owned multiple SSDs now, and various gimmicky mechanical HDDs including Raptors and hybrid SSDs, and have never seen an actual FPS improvement in games. All I have consistently seen is faster load times and much less texture pop-in, and believe me I am not some retard who has only tested it with WoW.

The fact is that Hetstaine is talking about cities in DayZ Standalone, and as much as I respect him as a poster generally I just don't see what he sees. My FPS plummets to 18 in places like Svetlojarsk and stays there, this is a known issue with the game according to Rocket himself.

 

When your game stutters, you have like 1 fps for the time it stutters. That is probably why people say they have more fps with ssd. People, who have trouble with hdd and stuttering in towns can try to change the video memory for textures in the dayz graphics setting from automatic to a lower setting, which should be smaller or equal the real physical memory on their video card. This helped me with frequent stuttering and the resulting client unresponsivity during that time.

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[hombrecz 832]

I'm a long time OC forum member and overclocker. I've been running an i7 overclocked to 5.0Gig on liquid with an SSD and a GTX 680 for over a year now. That is a great SSD optimization guide. I've been running with all these tweaks for a while.

 

Beans for the posting the guide Hombre, I was going to do the same thing after I was done reading this thread but you beat me to it.

 

Also, don't forget to UNPARK YOUR CORES if you're running Windows7! If you don't know what it means JFGI.

 

Thanks for the comment, wish it was me who created that guide :-D.

 

And yes, good point about core unparking, I did it after Standalone came out and I was trying to milk max FPS possible.

[Irish. 4886]

I wish, need a new cpu to go with :)

I am in the same boat Het.. super budget build, very outdated now. But with my SSD and some tweaks and twerks, my game seems to run better than most people who have much better PC's. Its all about how you use your tools, not how much they cost. ;)

[irl-calibre 744]

Sata II eh? I dream of SATA II my motherboard is so old it's only SATA!

[Hetstaine 10852]

I have owned multiple SSDs now, and various gimmicky mechanical HDDs including Raptors and hybrid SSDs, and have never seen an actual FPS improvement in games. All I have consistently seen is faster load times and much less texture pop-in, and believe me I am not some retard who has only tested it with WoW.

The fact is that Hetstaine is talking about cities in DayZ Standalone, and as much as I respect him as a poster generally I just don't see what he sees. My FPS plummets to 18 in places like Svetlojarsk and stays there, this is a known issue with the game according to Rocket himself.

 

 I would say it is what Vatix states below. Because of the ultra slow texture loading i was getting, especially noticable in Svetlo where i would only see double frames if i stopped, and then going to full fluid motion with random micro stutters..it gives the appearance of more fps. Compared, it is like going from walking in mud to skating on ice.  I was going to do some min/max fps testing around Svet just to get some figures but since the latest stable update i am getting heaps of crashing which seems to be affected by my gear, gear on, crash..strip naked, all good, Go figure. Testing resumes again tomorrow lol.

 

When your game stutters, you have like 1 fps for the time it stutters. That is probably why people say they have more fps with ssd. People, who have trouble with hdd and stuttering in towns can try to change the video memory for textures in the dayz graphics setting from automatic to a lower setting, which should be smaller or equal the real physical memory on their video card. This helped me with frequent stuttering and the resulting client unresponsivity during that time.

 

 

Sata II eh? I dream of SATA II my motherboard is so old it's only SATA!

 

 Poor bastard, i know your pain. Save them pennies :)

[hrdrok 183]

I believe he just misread that, it's kind-off a dubious statement :p

 

has anyone tested this with ramdisk? I have a ssd but I also have a lot of ram so I'm curious about this. even a few fps could make a difference in those lagtowns.

I have ran it through RAM disk. Worked well but only really smoothed out the stutters. No real increase in FPS. And RAM is much faster than a SSD. So I can't image getting a SSD being worth the money for this game. Save it for a CPU.

[Grimey Rick 3417]

I had DayZ installed on the HDD setup in my signature for about a month before swapping it to my SSD setup. I honestly did not notice an increase in frame rate at all. Granted, RAID 0 Caviar Blacks are considerably faster than standard HDDs, but not nearly as fast as my RAID 0 SSDs.

I left it installed on my SSDs because the 8-10 second initial load of the game makes me happy.

[jukaga 271]

Finally purchased an ssd, Samsung 840 evo 250gb, clean install of win 7(32bit)

 

I'm curious Het, why 32 bit? I'm currently running a 64 bit system and want to do a clean install, but my recovery disk is long gone. I have a copy of Win 7 32 bit that was given to me a few years ago. What if anything would I lose going from 64 bit to a 32 bit os?

[Grimey Rick 3417]

I'm curious Het, why 32 bit? I'm currently running a 64 bit system and want to do a clean install, but my recovery disk is long gone. I have a copy of Win 7 32 bit that was given to me a few years ago. What if anything would I lose going from 64 bit to a 32 bit os?

 

The ability to use more than 4GB of RAM.

 

http://www.ghacks.net/2010/12/03/windows-7-32-bit-vs-64-bit/

[badluckburt 974]

I'm curious Het, why 32 bit? I'm currently running a 64 bit system and want to do a clean install, but my recovery disk is long gone. I have a copy of Win 7 32 bit that was given to me a few years ago. What if anything would I lose going from 64 bit to a 32 bit os?

 

- edit

 

Ninja'd and he even had a link to boot.

Edited April 23, 2014 by BadLuckBurt

[jukaga 271]

Thanks gents.

[DedicateDdos 50]

I'm curious Het, why 32 bit? I'm currently running a 64 bit system and want to do a clean install, but my recovery disk is long gone. I have a copy of Win 7 32 bit that was given to me a few years ago. What if anything would I lose going from 64 bit to a 32 bit os?

 

Aside from what's been mentioned there's no loss, 32bit programs run just as fine on a 64bit system as they would on a 32 one, I remember bumping into a few very old programs complaining about my system being 64bit but those tend to be extremely rare. 

There are also whispers going on about performance increase in certain application but I haven't seen anything tangible. the only thing you get is if you have more then 4gb of ram you'll be able to use it, especially handy for photoshop and rendering etc... for gaming or your everyday applications not so much.

[jukaga 271]

I've got 8gb on my laptop, not sure if I want to lose 4gb of RAM. I am looking at a new rig next year but it would be nice to clean up my bloated system in the meantime.