shaeg 136 Posted March 31, 2014 I love the game, it has amazing potential, I was playing for hours today while running from server hopping noob killers (seriously are those guys that low irl?) hobbling around with broken arm because a female zombie bitch slapped me (Never seen someone get their arm broken from being slapped before weird)...anyways, with all of that said and done...... the most retarded thing in this entire game.... is the fact that you can fall 5-10 ft and break your leg or even die..... I mean..... I can get a ladder irl ...climb onto my 2 story roof... and jump off... and MORE THAN LIKELY would not break anything. It's just a bad, bad mechanic. If you manage to survive a fall.. you cant re-spawn until you die which is also ridiculous. Does Dayz take place on a different planet that has twice earths gravitational pull? That and the rarity of supplies to create a splint is so low. aaannnnyhooww..... This really isn't a QQ thread It's just a new player pointing out things everyone already knows. But complaints like this should be constructive. 1. ^ The fall distance stated above. 2. When i get chased by zombies I just run into any house nearby and they glitch out half way under the floor and they are easy kills, I can hit them, they cant hit me. 3. Tooltips would be great, Couldn't figure out how to talk in my first human encounter and got shot (prob because i was hopping around and leaning left and right spazzing out.. I looked pretty unstable and prob deserved it in my killers eyes. 4. If your vision gets all white/black from being sick and you cure yourself it seems to be stuck that way....forever until you die. 5. If you have a broken leg and try to drown yourself, You dont actually die. ??????????????? (spent 2 hrs crawling back to town thankfully a zomb found me while i was smoking a cig with a quarter stuck between my keys auto ru...crawling. 6. Some residential areas seem to have plenty of random things to find and food where some have nothing. I have encountered entire suburbs with nothing in them with no one else around. (this may be server oriented if it is my bad i am still new)3 7. If someone punched you or slapped oyu a few times would you really bleed to death? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M0RG0TH 40 Posted March 31, 2014 1. The fall damage is indeed stupid and must have been programmed by someone not very intelligent in physics. 2. The pathfinding for zombies is being worked on, its alpha stage. 3. Or you could not be lazy and look in key bindings? 4. Having a black and white screen means you were hit, you lost blood, and now you are low on blood.http://dayzdb.com/guide/11-standalone-status-effects 5. Devs have thought about adding a real suicide option if you have the capable weaponry. 6. Again, this isn't the fully released DayZ standalone. This is in alpha stage and many things are still being worked on. 7. Fist OP. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
guppy22143 1081 Posted March 31, 2014 (edited) Sheag, welcome to DayZ!Now, due to your negligence toward medical conditions, I will improve your survival rates ten fold by directing you to my ongoing (living document) archive on the collected medical work of the entire DayZ community. This includes work from great medics like Merino and a few others.http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/175158-the-dayz-sa-guide-to-medical-treatment/ Now, to your other issues:If you hold shift in buildings and up heights, you should be alright. Also, avoid zombies.I hope these tips helped you! :D Edited March 31, 2014 by Guppy the DayZ Medic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shaeg 136 Posted March 31, 2014 Thanks for the welcome, is there no back and forth feedback on this forum? Because really, thats going to be an issue... the falling a few measly meters and breaking leg/dieing really is... Its just dumb. Not challenging, but dumb. And walking around with no shirt on and a broken arm is not ideal when the reason you are in such bad shape is due to a fully geared twat is chasing you around with a m4 ps: im not going anywhere i am having fun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Etherious 907 Posted March 31, 2014 I love the game, it has amazing potential, I was playing for hours today while running from server hopping noob killers (seriously are those guys that low irl?) hobbling around with broken arm because a female zombie bitch slapped me (Never seen someone get their arm broken from being slapped before weird)...anyways, with all of that said and done...... the most retarded thing in this entire game.... is the fact that you can fall 5-10 ft and break your leg or even die..... I mean..... I can get a ladder irl ...climb onto my 2 story roof... and jump off... and MORE THAN LIKELY would not break anything. It's just a bad, bad mechanic. If you manage to survive a fall.. you cant re-spawn until you die which is also ridiculous. Does Dayz take place on a different planet that has twice earths gravitational pull? That and the rarity of supplies to create a splint is so low. aaannnnyhooww..... This really isn't a QQ thread It's just a new player pointing out things everyone already knows. But complaints like this should be constructive. 1. ^ The fall distance stated above. 2. When i get chased by zombies I just run into any house nearby and they glitch out half way under the floor and they are easy kills, I can hit them, they cant hit me. 3. Tooltips would be great, Couldn't figure out how to talk in my first human encounter and got shot (prob because i was hopping around and leaning left and right spazzing out.. I looked pretty unstable and prob deserved it in my killers eyes. 4. If your vision gets all white/black from being sick and you cure yourself it seems to be stuck that way....forever until you die. 5. If you have a broken leg and try to drown yourself, You dont actually die. ??????????????? (spent 2 hrs crawling back to town thankfully a zomb found me while i was smoking a cig with a quarter stuck between my keys auto ru...crawling. 6. Some residential areas seem to have plenty of random things to find and food where some have nothing. I have encountered entire suburbs with nothing in them with no one else around. (this may be server oriented if it is my bad i am still new)3 7. If someone punched you or slapped oyu a few times would you really bleed to death?2 story building fall.....would fracture your limbs and if they don't then holy shit your lucky and or drink alot of strawberry milk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crazy_Spider 235 Posted March 31, 2014 I love the game, it has amazing potential, I was playing for hours today while running from server hopping noob killers (seriously are those guys that low irl?) hobbling around with broken arm because a female zombie bitch slapped me (Never seen someone get their arm broken from being slapped before weird)...anyways, with all of that said and done...... the most retarded thing in this entire game.... is the fact that you can fall 5-10 ft and break your leg or even die..... I mean..... I can get a ladder irl ...climb onto my 2 story roof... and jump off... and MORE THAN LIKELY would not break anything. It's just a bad, bad mechanic. If you manage to survive a fall.. you cant re-spawn until you die which is also ridiculous. Does Dayz take place on a different planet that has twice earths gravitational pull? That and the rarity of supplies to create a splint is so low. aaannnnyhooww..... This really isn't a QQ thread It's just a new player pointing out things everyone already knows. But complaints like this should be constructive. 1. ^ The fall distance stated above. 2. When i get chased by zombies I just run into any house nearby and they glitch out half way under the floor and they are easy kills, I can hit them, they cant hit me. 3. Tooltips would be great, Couldn't figure out how to talk in my first human encounter and got shot (prob because i was hopping around and leaning left and right spazzing out.. I looked pretty unstable and prob deserved it in my killers eyes. 4. If your vision gets all white/black from being sick and you cure yourself it seems to be stuck that way....forever until you die. 5. If you have a broken leg and try to drown yourself, You dont actually die. ??????????????? (spent 2 hrs crawling back to town thankfully a zomb found me while i was smoking a cig with a quarter stuck between my keys auto ru...crawling. 6. Some residential areas seem to have plenty of random things to find and food where some have nothing. I have encountered entire suburbs with nothing in them with no one else around. (this may be server oriented if it is my bad i am still new)3 7. If someone punched you or slapped oyu a few times would you really bleed to death? Sorry, I know you might be joking, but if you jumped off your roof you would quite possibly die from shock, and you most definitely would break a leg or arm, possibly even your spine. My cousin broke her arm from falling 7 feet to the ground, your bones break easy from falls. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shaeg 136 Posted March 31, 2014 what? die from shock are you kidding me? Maybe if i weighed 300lbs dude let me show you something Heres some people jumping off 2 story buildings: (possible sprained ankle) (lol'd) Take note that no one not even the blow up doll died or was seriously/critically injured 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pacific_coast 632 Posted March 31, 2014 cya back never OP this game is not going to get "better enough" for you to enjoy it sad, but real Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phalanx102 59 Posted March 31, 2014 cya back never OP this game is not going to get "better enough" for you to enjoy it sad, but real Why are you such a sad little troll? Who pissed in your cheerios? 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dawgstyl 51 Posted March 31, 2014 Have that kid put ona 90lb ruck along with all the gear you had on and try the jump again. REMEMBER this is still in ALPHA...... Everyone say goodbye to the troll. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shaeg 136 Posted March 31, 2014 ps: im not going anywhere i am having fun.Not trolling lol if you were talking to me, stop being die hard fan boys and admit that falling 5 ft and getting hurt is dumb lol, really I just want the game as immersive as possible. I pretty much have to pretend im Mr. Glass from Unbreakable trying to survive the zombie apocolypse and avoid stairs like Claptrap from Borderlands. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kichilron 8550 Posted March 31, 2014 Take note that no one not even the blow up doll died or was seriously/critically injured Were any of those carrying backpacks, weapons and heavy gear? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
komadose 190 Posted March 31, 2014 (edited) 1. ^ The fall distance stated above. 2. When i get chased by zombies I just run into any house nearby and they glitch out half way under the floor and they are easy kills, I can hit them, they cant hit me. 3. Tooltips would be great, Couldn't figure out how to talk in my first human encounter and got shot (prob because i was hopping around and leaning left and right spazzing out.. I looked pretty unstable and prob deserved it in my killers eyes. 4. If your vision gets all white/black from being sick and you cure yourself it seems to be stuck that way....forever until you die. 5. If you have a broken leg and try to drown yourself, You dont actually die. ??????????????? (spent 2 hrs crawling back to town thankfully a zomb found me while i was smoking a cig with a quarter stuck between my keys auto ru...crawling. 6. Some residential areas seem to have plenty of random things to find and food where some have nothing. I have encountered entire suburbs with nothing in them with no one else around. (this may be server oriented if it is my bad i am still new)3 7. If someone punched you or slapped oyu a few times would you really bleed to death?1. physics are not yet implemented to the game. yes, the current fall damage is stupid and unpredictable, so avoid falling altogether before it's fixed. 2. pathfinding is being worked on, like mentioned. 3. just see key bindings. 4. if you have lost blood or have been sick, eat and drink lots to get a "healing" status for your character. it will then eventually go away. 5. yeah that sucks. we need a suicide option. 6. someone has just propably looted that area already. there are certain building types, however, wich almost never contain any loot. some smaller villages may consist of these building types completely. also, if the door is open, someone has been there already. 7. when it comes to zombies, i believe their attacks are still placeholders. when it comes to other players, yeah, fists are crazy powerful at the moment. i think bleeding is good, though, even if not completely realistic. there's plenty of clothing around that you can tear into rags, but first you need to find a safe spot to use it. Edited March 31, 2014 by komadose Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Karmaterror 982 Posted March 31, 2014 (edited) How about if we had a parkour type tuck and roll bound to a key. For larger falls if you hit it in time you land well. Hit it to late or not at all and your legs will be broken. Still wouldn't say it should work from 2 stories up, but say 5-10m fall will break legs without a tuck and roll, +10m would be dead (or very very mangled) survivor :) EDIT - Maybe those values a bit big, but ya get the idea lol Edited March 31, 2014 by Karmaterror 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jex 1104 Posted March 31, 2014 The gear ur carrying is irrelevant as when you're a freshspawn you suffer the same damage.... unless you hit an object on the way down first. Then you can fall any distance and survive unscratched. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
agentneo 337 Posted March 31, 2014 Sorry, I know you might be joking, but if you jumped off your roof you would quite possibly die from shock, and you most definitely would break a leg or arm, possibly even your spine. My cousin broke her arm from falling 7 feet to the ground, your bones break easy from falls.ridiculous, most adult men can jump a couple of stories easily without injury at all. I grew up with extreme sports and often jumped of ledges, roofs etc. even 2 stories roof should fine, in game should have drop and lower animation, you know like GTA had about 10 years ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pacific_coast 632 Posted March 31, 2014 ridiculous, most adult men can jump a couple of stories easily without injury at all. I grew up with extreme sports and often jumped of ledges, roofs etc. even 2 stories roof should fine, in game should have drop and lower animation, you know like GTA had about 10 years ago.that's why op will not be satisfyedhe is expecting a better game than what we will getsad, but real Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hannibaldaplaya 1095 Posted March 31, 2014 did you know falling from 4 stories in dayz doesnt kill you but a 5m fall does?now you do Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fitzee 248 Posted March 31, 2014 Hi. While breaking your leg in a game can be a pain in the ass I actually like the mechanic. But I do understand why the typical gamer doesn't want it in game. Still, saying you can't break a bone from falling off a ladder is funny. People break bones or die from ladder falls a lot irl. Hell, people break bones falling while walking or running at ground level. Regards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
agentneo 337 Posted March 31, 2014 (edited) I think the point made was that the damage is ridiculously too high for too small fall. We are not expecting a mirrors edge/ Dying Light run and roll Parkour system (though it would be great.) All I would expect is to be able to fall 2 stories and take small damage (maybe 10 % chance of breaking bone such as ankle)- but you should still be able to limp away faster than that horrible walk that happens when you break your leg now. I think they should re-do fall damage . Anything under 1.5 metre = no damage to 5% damage2 storie drop= 5-10% damage, , and increase accordingly. You shouldnt be breaking legs off these small drops.Many many games have that auto drop and hang method i think first invented in tomb raider one circa 99? Also as common is a better vault mechanic that actually interact with the fence/ object than clipping straight through it!!! Edited March 31, 2014 by AgentNe0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jumbaliah 113 Posted March 31, 2014 Hi. While breaking your leg in a game can be a pain in the ass I actually like the mechanic. But I do understand why the typical gamer doesn't want it in game. Still, saying you can't break a bone from falling off a ladder is funny. People break bones or die from ladder falls a lot irl. Hell, people break bones falling while walking or running at ground level. Regards. Yeah and those people are living pieces of shit. An average person can indeed jump from 2-3 stories with little to no injury. A little knowledge: http://www.angio.net/personal/climb/speed Using that calculator a 2 story building is about 7 meters. Weighing 90 kg your impact speed would be about 11 m/s. That is equal to ~ 25mph. Depending on your landing platform damage would be nearly nothing on a soft landing (grass) and maybe some scrapped knees/bruises/fractured bones on a hard surface such as cement. Saying it's because your character is toting around a backpack full of gear is irrelevant. If you want to play that game I would LOVE to see the games mechanics actually take into affect characters weight when calculating impact speed and damage as a result. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crazy_Spider 235 Posted March 31, 2014 what? die from shock are you kidding me? Maybe if i weighed 300lbs dude let me show you something Heres some people jumping off 2 story buildings: (possible sprained ankle) (lol'd) Take note that no one not even the blow up doll died or was seriously/critically injured Also take note that everyone rolled. I would show you some videos/pictures of what really happens if you don't roll properly, but I'd probably get banned for such graphic videos/images. What happens if you land stiffly is - Fall. Bones shatter and poke out the sides of your legs. You also get a huge shockwave sent up your whole body causing a possible spine injury. Just sayin' ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shaeg 136 Posted March 31, 2014 So basically you are saying all the players in DayZ world are out of shape fatties who gained no endurance/stamina/strength from all their hardship fighting for survival and cant jump from as high as these average joes in the video right? WHo the hell jumps stiff as a plank off a roof? I will tell you who, DayZ citizens. Apparently we are all 60 yr old out of shape dudes looking for the last female on the planet. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shaeg 136 Posted March 31, 2014 Assuming the average Dayz survivor is in fact a survivor aka a cut above the rest....general assumption and logic would point out their physical prowess. An accidental fall from a ladder or something could result in serious injury due to it being unexpected.. But when us humans do it on purpose our attention is focused on what we are doing. And we are capable of anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spartanxapathy 203 Posted March 31, 2014 ...hobbling around with broken arm because a female zombie bitch slapped me (Never seen someone get their arm broken from being slapped before weird)... 7. If someone punched you or slapped oyu a few times would you really bleed to death? So, I get that the zombies "look" like they are slapping you, but, let's all use our imaginations and give the animations some wiggle, friendly dance, room and say that maybe they are doing damage equivalent to how they would "really" be attacking you. As in, grabbing/ripping flesh and clothes with dirty nails, possibly breaking off in you skin, biting, things like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites