Dayz and what it should have been.

[Elle 562]

The way servers work in this game might be similar to an MMO but it is NOT AN MMO. 

this comes right from the Steam description of the game... "DayZ is a gritty, authentic, open-world survival horror hybrid-MMO game, in which players follow a single goal: to survive in the harsh post-apocalyptic landscape as long as they can."

[Ninja_Meh 115]

We don't need help from devs to make magical player-interact-no-kill areas. That takes a large African bushknife right to the testicles of realism. Here I am, in say a movie like Zombieland, when suddenly BAM! 80 zombies are running at me! What do I do? Why, obviously run inside the magic safe-zone!

Also the point of the game is survival. If you have no-combat areas then you get players just camping there to survive unordinately long amounts of time. The way servers work in this game might be similar to an MMO but it is NOT AN MMO. 

 

Lol well that would be why Dean Hall said he is taking the game engine away from the architecture of a shooter game, reworking the whole system to be MMO and then enabling more and more players and zombies to be in a single server....... hmmmmmm i dont see any other shooter games that go into the level of depth this one already does (and will continue to do so) in terms of collecting items used to craft new things and weapons and storage and so on, as well as gathering resources and what not to keep yourself and (if you have one) your group alive. I mean an MMO is just a game that is Massively Multiplayer Online, and is also what Dean himself said a hell of a lot that he wants the game to be more instead of your average shooter type game with a bit of survival element chucked at it for good measure.

 

I would go as far as to say this is an RPGesque shooter as well, because you guessed it RPG's merely mean Role Playing Games, now forgive me if I'm wrong but if i choose to play the role of a bandit i can, but if i choose to play the role of a hero I also can so at what point you decided (against the definition of Dean Hall himself) this game is NOT a role playing game, I am unsure of. I mean literally Dean Hall in interviews said on camera he wants to bring the game away from being an online shooter and have the engine built up from the ground as AN MMO architecture (presumably so as to help the game to be an MMO or else why the fuck even do that) and to make it basically an open ended ROLE PLAYING MMO with zombies and guns. Just because your narrow view of an mmo is WoW or some other game such as and your idea of and RPG is something like skyrim or whatever does not mean someone cannot redefine a genre with a new type of game DERP

 

 

the game is designed to be a post apocalyptic ROLEPLAYING mmo, Nope, actually it was designed to be a realistic post-apocalyptic survival game, try again LINK SOURCE AND PROOF OF WHAT YOU SAYand after that some form of 3rd/1st person shooter the game is not that silly, you see cowboy hats in uk, norway (where i live right now) Places which have nothing to do with a poor farming ex-Soviet community INDEED THEY DO NOT BUT THEY ALSO DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH COWBOY HATS EITHER YET YOU MAY FIND THEM HERE ON OCCASION (also note that cowboy hats are predominantly worn by farmer types and variations of said hats can be found in places very close to russia, including but not limited to, Mongolia, Australia, and to be fair even America if you actually look at a map isnt far from russia to be honest) i mean derp derp derp dude, if you find cowboy hats in places as far removed from america as UK AAAAND Norway why is it so unlikely you might find a few lying around in an ex soviet state...???)and i would imagine you find them in many countries, such as what? Ethiopia or India too, then? You "imagine"? [citation needed] ME USING MY IMAGINATION TO SAY THAT I THINK IN OUR CURRENT TECHNOLOGICAL AGE OF BUYING CRAP YOU DONT NEED ONLINE WOULD MEAN THERE MAAAAAY WELL BE COWBOY HATS IN PLACES OTHER THAN FUCKING TEXAS DOES NOT NEEC BACKING UP OR CITATION IN ANY WAY.......it would certainly suck if the only clothes you found was hero outfit, bandit outfit and freshspawn clothes, clothing was talked about at length in forums within the mod realm and many mods took the leap and started to add clothing due to requests in forums. i like wearing a green cotton girls jacket and 3/4 legth canvas pants whilst wielding axes at never ending zeds spawning on bambies im trying to save, it makes me feel like a real man Nobody was complaining about normal clothing can you actually read and then finally to top it off, you misread everything that is written and try to then imply I have not read through the thread properly or did so and misunderstood what was written, so are cowboy hats not "normal" clothes that someone may of ordered on the internet before the "apocalypse" happened... get over yourself man ur a tool to make out like you know best when you clearly dont even know where your pee pee winky is yet....

 

God i hope people like this guy have as little influence in this game as possible, it would be a sad day for us all should such a great concept as an MMO RPG style survival zombie game with guns and cars in got ruined by feedback from people like this *facepalm*

[Ninja_Meh 115]

You said "help from devs", implying something had to be created that players can't. You were saying "I know players are meant to do X, but blah blah help from devs" and I made the logical assumption it was something players couldn't make themselves.

 

 

you basically derailed this thread and got a load of peoples backs up by saying

 

1 the game IS NOT SOMETHING IT IS DESCRIBED BY THE DEVELOPER AND LEAD DESIGNER TO BE ON THE BLOODY STEAM PAGE

2 Cowboy hats are not normal clothes and obviously only available to find if your in texas (not sure if this is ignorant, racist or a mix of the two)

and of course cant forget good old 3 by being a douche when you said it all

 

 

*slowly claps sarcastically as everyone gives me the nod*

 

see that, this is a forum but by using asterisks i turned it into an RPG style open ended story adventure

[Ninja_Meh 115]

this comes right from the Steam description of the game... "DayZ is a gritty, authentic, open-world survival horror hybrid-MMO game, in which players follow a single goal: to survive in the harsh post-apocalyptic landscape as long as they can."

I know right, some people... if i could slapo him through the internet i would, but judging by his ignorance if i could do that and did i would get arrested for virtual child abuse (he must be a kid, if not i worry for this "adults" offspring)

[TrampledByTurtles 78]

Actually you are right, I have been playing the mod and a lot of DayZRP and I can tell you that you will never get the real dayz experience in SA. I hopped on a SA server yesterday and ran into a seven year old yesterday. Here was our exact conversation.

Me: Hey, no worries I'm friendly, I have no weapons

Him: I'm friendly too

Him: "pulls the trigger"

Me: "dies"

Him"takes my one soda can"

Sounds like its heading into the correct direction right? Wrong, if they don't change something now it will be a bunch of little kids playing cod in cherno.

Hey, if you're not so into SA you should give me the game. Need a copy for my friend and I'll be happy to take such a "bad" game off your hands.

[ElectraAO 10]

I've plaid hours and hours playing standalone and keep dying of starvation and thirst and all that :P I avoid the game right now and just play the mod... Alot better right now at the moment!

[bobotype3334 160]

this comes right from the Steam description of the game... "DayZ is a gritty, authentic, open-world survival horror hybrid-MMO game, in which players follow a single goal: to survive in the harsh post-apocalyptic landscape as long as they can."

Hybrid MMO? So, not an MMO. Just carrying MMO elements, as I said.

Let me use a metaphor. If you give me an electric car I'll say it's an electric car. If you give me a hybrid diesel-electric I'll call it a hybrid diesel-electric, because when you say "hybrid" you instantly make it clear that the two have differences. MMO means Massively-Multiplayer Online Game. DayZ has MMO elements, but is not purely an MMO [in the same way a hybrid car would have some electricity but would not be an electric car].

MMO is defined as a game which can support HUNDREDS of players at once. DayZ can support 40 players per server. Wikipedia says http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massively_multiplayer_online_game "Most MMOGs also share other characteristics that make them different from other multiplayer online games. MMOGs host a large number of players in a single game world, and all of those players can interact with each other at any given time. Popular MMOGs might have thousands of players online at any given time, usually on a company owned servers. Non-MMOGs, such as Battlefield 1942 or Half-Life usually have fewer than 50 players online (per server)"

It also isn't on this page of Wikipedia either: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massively_multiplayer_online_games

You can't just quote the game's tagline and not read it.

 

Lol well that would be why Dean Hall said... [wall of text]

 

God i hope people like this guy have as little influence in this game as possible, it would be a sad day for us all should such a great concept as an MMO RPG style survival zombie game with guns and cars in *get ruined by feedback from people like this *facepalm*

Yeah mate, I say ditto for you, because you don't even get what an MMO is, you don't understand guff about the setting of the game [more on that below] and you don't get the fact that all the roleplaying in the game is created by the players.

MMORPGs set the role of your character for you and you have to follow that role consistently. DayZ is not an MMORPG, because the goal of the game is not dying rather than focusing on character.  In an RPG, you work towards progression of your character, the story and personality and statistics of your character. In DayZ you try and survive.

Hence, DayZ is as much an RPG as Call of Duty is an RPG.

There are no quests, no definitions of your character other than the ones you bring in, and they even discounted the "Humanity" or "Sanity" system as an idea because it was too RPG-ey. DayZ, in Dean Hall's own words, is the "anti-game". So you can call that the genre if you wish, but as it isn't an RPG. Also, it isn't an MMO because MMOs are characterised by massive amounts of players to a server, not 40.

 

LINK SOURCE AND PROOF OF WHAT YOU SAY Where are your sources for what you originally said then?

INDEED THEY DO NOT BUT THEY ALSO DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH COWBOY HATS EITHER YET YOU MAY FIND THEM HERE ON OCCASION (also note that cowboy hats are predominantly worn by farmer types and variations of said hats can be found in places very close to russia, including but not limited to, Mongolia, Australia, and to be fair even America if you actually look at a map isnt far from russia to be honest) i mean derp derp derp dude, if you find cowboy hats in places as far removed from america as UK AAAAND Norway why is it so unlikely you might find a few lying around in an ex soviet state...???) Well if you agree they have nothing to do with Chernarus why list them as evidence? Cowboy hats are worn by stereotypical Western World farmers, and saying "America isn't that far from Russia" is one of the dumbest fucking things I have ever heard; Chernarus is set in a similar location to Czechslovakia, about as far as you can get from America 

ME USING MY IMAGINATION TO SAY THAT I THINK IN OUR CURRENT TECHNOLOGICAL AGE OF BUYING CRAP YOU DONT NEED ONLINE WOULD MEAN THERE MAAAAAY WELL BE COWBOY HATS IN PLACES OTHER THAN FUCKING TEXAS DOES NOT NEEC BACKING UP OR CITATION IN ANY WAY....... Current technological age of buying crap online? So you once again forgot this is a POOR EX SOVIET FARMING COMMUNITY with about 20 homes in the entire map with computers- most of which probably don't even have Internet, because they look like a throwback to the 90s. These people are living in log cabins, their last priority would be imported cowboy hats. Anyway, it's really a non-issue, but go ahead and flame on.

and then finally to top it off, you misread everything that is written and try to then imply I have not read through the thread properly or did so and misunderstood what was written, so are cowboy hats not "normal" clothes that someone may of ordered on the internet before the "apocalypse" happened... get over yourself man ur a tool to make out like you know best when you clearly dont even know where your pee pee winky is yet.... Cowboy hats are not "normal" clothes for your average cash strapped Chernarussian citizen who lives in a fucking log cabin. You misread me, I was just saying that normal clothing wasn't the issue at hand, something you obviously did not take notice of at all while blathering on.

 

My favourite gem of wisdom: get over yourself man ur a tool to make out like you know best when you clearly dont even know where your pee pee winky is yet.... 

 

Edited March 26, 2014 by bobotype3334

[bobotype3334 160]

you basically derailed this thread and got a load of peoples backs up actually I seem to only have gotten your back up, and boy did I do it hard! by saying

 

1 the game IS NOT SOMETHING IT IS DESCRIBED BY THE DEVELOPER AND LEAD DESIGNER TO BE ON THE BLOODY STEAM PAGE Correction, it isn't an MMO as you said, it's a hybrid MMO, which is what it says on the steam page

2 Cowboy hats are not normal clothes and obviously only available to find if your in texas (not sure if this is ignorant, racist or a mix of the two)

and of course cant forget good old 3 by being a douche when you said it all Accusing me of racism; how does this work? Are cowboy hats a race?

*slowly claps sarcastically as everyone gives me the nod* look guise ex dee im being kewl on the inter nets

 

see that, this is a forum but by using asterisks i turned it into an RPG style open ended story adventure

I know right, some people... if i could *slap him through the internet *I would, but judging by his ignorance if i could do that and did i would get arrested for virtual child abuse (he must be a kid, if not i worry for this *"adult's" offspring) You've displayed nothing but intelligence, maturity, mastery of the English language, geographical knowledge, restraint and politeness my friend. You're right, you've bested me. Isn't it past my bedtime?

Back on track with the original purpose of the thread, the addition of cosmetics. 

http://static1.businessinsider.com/image/524203ed6bb3f79e258b4569/heartwarming-video-follows-retired-russian-farmer-on-his-first-trip-away-from-home--to-new-york-city.jpg

http://lizasworld.typepad.com/curiouser/images/2007/05/27/russian_farmer_.jpghttp://nowwearesixty.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/russian-farmer1.jpg

Here's what a farmer would be wearing, by the way. Note the headgear. I had a considerable look around. Ushankas, flatcaps and flatcaps. I did find one cowboy hat wearing farmer in Google Images, which turned out to be from Americablog.com. You see, it's the wrong fucking climate for cowboy hats, which are designed to keep your head cool via protection from the sun and air flow. Russia is cold. Czechoslovakia is cold. The sun is welcome. I'm happy to let it go at cowboy hats, but as OP was saying that's where it needs to stop, before we end up with Prada and Vans and snapbacks everywhere "IT WOULD MAKE SENSE FOR THEM TO HAVE HIGHTOPS! EVERYONE IS RICH!" and we need to focus on stuff that actually makes sense in the country the game is set in.

Edited March 26, 2014 by bobotype3334

[rickenbacker 190]

Hello all, I am sorry if this offends you but dayz has become something wrong. Too many technicalities and process that it just ends up being no fun. What I was hoping it would be was a graphically updated version of the mod. 

 

What would be the point of that, and why would ANYONE want to pay for it? If you want to play the mod, go play the mod. 

[rickenbacker 190]

 

Those coats need to be added. Well, if the devs ever manage to solve the problem of clothes covering more than one body part, that is. And the FACE on the woman on the left absolutely needs to be in the character generator, like yesterday!

[bobotype3334 160]

Those coats need to be added. Well, if the devs ever manage to solve the problem of clothes covering more than one body part, that is. And the FACE on the woman on the left absolutely needs to be in the character generator, like yesterday!

Yeah not looking forward to seeing elderly as zeds.

Don't raincoats already cover multiple body parts?

[Ninja_Meh 115]

the game is designed to be a post apocalyptic ROLEPLAYING mmo,(No shit, i didnt call it a STRAIGHT UP MMO, but actually some form of mmo game (i guess without trying to be anal, that would mean my   definition is what hybrid mmo would mean)) and after that some form of 3rd/1st person shooter the game is not that silly, you see cowboy hats in uk, norway (where i live right now) (norway is really cold and also really not far from the CZECH REPUBLIC AND SLOVAKIA (just so you know czechoslavakia doesnt actually exist anymore... lmgtfy.com springs to mind...)and i would imagine you find them in many countries, (just because a places climate doesnt sit with WHY a hat was designed (over 200 hundred years previously) does not mean that we dont live 200 years down the line from then and that anything could be possible with the use of the internet (except for czechoslavakia EVER EXISTING AGAIN (note research before claiming to be smart))) it would certainly suck if the only clothes you found was hero outfit, bandit outfit and freshspawn clothes, clothing was talked about at length in forums within the mod realm and many mods took the leap and started to add clothing due to requests in forums. i like wearing a green cotton girls jacket and 3/4 legth canvas pants whilst wielding axes at never ending zeds spawning on bambies im trying to save, it makes me feel like a real man

 

 

 

the game is designed to be a post apocalyptic ROLEPLAYING mmo(hmm this definition seems to be a number of things INCLUDING an mmo (so that would make it a hybrid without writing the word hybrid (which as a dumb ass you pointed out is what a hybrid is)), Nope, actually it was designed to be a realistic post-apocalyptic survival game, try again <--- you were and still are wrong and then when corrected twice by different users decided to try to squirm out of it (like a maggot) by then using the "hybrid" word pointed out to you... and after that some form of 3rd/1st person shooter the game is not that silly, you see cowboy hats in uk, norway (where i live right now) Places which have nothing to do with a poor farming ex-Soviet community (why does it have to be poor just because it is ex soviet also note this game WAS DEVELOPED IN THE CZECH REPUBLIC *facepalms for sanity at your ignorance*and i would imagine you find them in many countries, such as what? Ethiopia or India too, then? You "imagine"? [citation needed]  (<---- words for the sake of words do not make any sense)it would certainly suck if the only clothes you found was hero outfit, bandit outfit and freshspawn clothes, clothing was talked about at length in forums within the mod realm and many mods took the leap and started to add clothing due to requests in forums. i like wearing a green cotton girls jacket and 3/4 legth canvas pants whilst wielding axes at never ending zeds spawning on bambies im trying to save, it makes me feel like a real man Nobody was complaining about normal clothing can you actually read (yessir i can read, and also understand things, you should try both yourself then maybe you would be less ignorant than currently you are)

 

 

 

We don't need help from devs to make magical player-interact-no-kill areas. That takes a large African bushknife right to the testicles of realism. Here I am, in say a movie like Zombieland, when suddenly BAM! 80 zombies are running at me! What do I do? Why, obviously run inside the magic safe-zone!

Also the point of the game is survival. If you have no-combat areas then you get players just camping there to survive unordinately long amounts of time. The way servers work in this game might be similar to an MMO but it is NOT AN MMO. (IS and soon will be even more so)

SORRY HAD TO QUOTE THIS ONE JUST TO POINT OUT WHERE YOU WERE ALL LIKE "THIS IS NOT AN MMO *observes idiot desperately using some form of technicality to "throw his toy out of pram" toy in this case seems to = your brain in this case

 

You said "help from devs", implying something had to be created that players can't. You were saying "I know players are meant to do X, but blah blah help from devs" and I made the logical assumption it was something players couldn't make themselves. dont even know why i quoted this bit tbh i think it just highlighted your blind sighted ignorance and general superiority complex. assumpiton "the mother of all fuck ups"... assumption wasnt your mums name was it lol herped derped

 

 

 

this comes right from the Steam description of the game... "DayZ is a gritty, authentic, open-world survival horror hybrid-MMO game, in which players follow a single goal: to survive in the harsh post-apocalyptic landscape as long as they can." thats right this game is (many words attatched constituting hybrid version of what is "typically" known as mmo

 

 

Lol well that would be why Dean Hall said he is taking the game engine away from the architecture of a shooter game, reworking the whole system to be MMO and then enabling more and more players and zombies to be in a single server....... hmmmmmm i dont see any other shooter games that go into the level of depth this one already does (and will continue to do so) in terms of collecting items used to craft new things and weapons and storage and so on, as well as gathering resources and what not to keep yourself and (if you have one) your group alive. I mean an MMO is just a game that is Massively Multiplayer Online, and is also what Dean himself said a hell of a lot that he wants the game to be more instead of your average shooter type game with a bit of survival element chucked at it for good measure.

 

I would go as far as to say this is an RPGesque shooter as well, because you guessed it RPG's merely mean Role Playing Games, now forgive me if I'm wrong but if i choose to play the role of a bandit i can, but if i choose to play the role of a hero I also can so at what point you decided (against the definition of Dean Hall himself) this game is NOT a role playing game, I am unsure of. I mean literally Dean Hall in interviews said on camera he wants to bring the game away from being an online shooter and have the engine built up from the ground as AN MMO architecture (presumably so as to help the game to be an MMO or else why the fuck even do that) and to make it basically an open ended ROLE PLAYING MMO with zombies and guns. Just because your narrow view of an mmo is WoW or some other game such as and your idea of and RPG is something like skyrim or whatever does not mean someone cannot redefine a genre with a new type of game DERP

 

God i hope people like this guy have as little influence in this game as possible, it would be a sad day for us all should such a great concept as an MMO RPG style survival zombie game with guns and cars in got ruined by feedback from people like this *facepalm*

^<---- had to quote myself just cos i totally within this post define this game to a T and in a way that perfectly encompasses the fact it is a "hybrid" of what is currently seen as an mmo game plus i think you should read it again, not that you will, hell your clearly an ignoramus who I'd love to meet in a real dayz style situation (boy i know what you would be getting from me, and it certainly wouldnt be a "hey noob you look like u could do with a hand would you like some food so you can survive and possibly hang out with some other cool guys i know who are surviving in this harsh setting") no it would be more like................ click click *holds breath* BANG *loots your trousers so everyone knows you got shot for nothing and your trousers stolen by cool people* lol

 

you basically derailed this thread and got a load of peoples backs up by saying

 

1 the game IS NOT SOMETHING IT IS DESCRIBED BY THE DEVELOPER AND LEAD DESIGNER TO BE ON THE BLOODY STEAM PAGE

2 Cowboy hats are not normal clothes and obviously only available to find if your in texas (not sure if this is ignorant, racist or a mix of the two)

and of course cant forget good old 3 by being a douche when you said it all

 

 

*slowly claps sarcastically as everyone gives me the nod*

 

see that, this is a forum but by using asterisks i turned it into an RPG style open ended story adventure

pattern forming with self quoting here, ps still more interesting than quoting you so far :P

 

I know right, some people... if i could slap him through the internet i would, but judging by his ignorance if i could do that and did i would get arrested for virtual child abuse (he must be a kid, if not i worry for this "adults" offspring)

and again

 

Hybrid MMO? So, not an MMO. Just carrying MMO elements, as I said. (point in case that is definitely not WHAT YOU SAID (first you claimed it was not any type of mmo till proven otherwise to, then you dig ur hole even further by saying it again, then finally you tangent saying it is but it isnt (hence why i know your an ignoramus))

Let me use a metaphor. If you give me an electric car I'll say it's an electric car. If you give me a hybrid diesel-electric I'll call it a hybrid diesel-electric, because when you say "hybrid" you instantly make it clear that the two have differences. MMO means Massively-Multiplayer Online Game. DayZ has MMO elements, but is not purely an MMO [in the same way a hybrid car would have some electricity but would not be an electric car]. (metaphors are elegant ways of describing one thing using many other words in a fashion that describes it without being direct, your "metaphor" is just a  bland, boring DESCRIPTION of the total wrong end of the stick, and nobody likes it and also NOTHING LIKE A METAPHOR EITHER.

 

example of a metaphor "bobotype334, your mind has as much IQ as my front door, your face im sure, looks like a floor (ie walked all over and and dirty for sure), your clearly dim and maybe even poor, so much so maybe the son of a whore. now dont take these things as direct, and react immature this is just a way to show you METAPHOR" see the first bit where i related how stupid you are to how much iq my front door has, well thats a metaphor (just so u know kid)

MMO is defined as a game which can support HUNDREDS of players at once. DayZ can support 40 players per server. Wikipedia says http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massively_multiplayer_online_game (LAWL quotes the most unreliable source he can find online and uses as fact) "Most MMOGs also share other characteristics that make them different from other multiplayer online games. MMOGs host a large number of players in a single game world, and all of those players can interact with each other at any given time. Popular MMOGs might have thousands of players online at any given time, usually on a company owned servers. Non-MMOGs, such as Battlefield 1942 or Half-Life (brah when was this even written lol battlefield 1942 and halflife WELL SHEEEET..... )usually have fewer than 50 players online (until this game leaves alpha it will not be raising the player cap past 40 so as to first make it easier to track down and fix bugs and add content Dean wants to make it more mmo than shooter and already said there will be the ability to have hundreds online or more per server) (per server)"

It also isn't on this page of Wikipedia either: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massively_multiplayer_online_games (one this page is wikipedia DO YOU WANT ME TO FIX THAT FOR YOU AND SCREENSHOT IT SO IT DOES SAY DAYZ UNTIL U FIGURE OUT YOUR A MASSIVE DONG AND CAN SIGN IN AND DELETE MY ENTRY AND WRITE YOUR OWN VERSION OF THE TRUTH *FACE FUCKING PALM*

and 2 this game isnt actually released yet so its genre and definition is not final so it wouldnt go there yet anyway....)

You can't just quote the game's tagline and not read it.

 

 

My favourite gem of wisdom: get over yourself man ur a tool to make out like you know best when you clearly dont even know where your pee pee winky is yet....  (lol i know right, things i say can be favourited even by the imbeciles that i write them about... i wonder if any one has ever given beans to you on any of your posts to date. not gonna look cos frankly who cares lol i know people give me beans, cos sometimes im informative, sometimes im funny.... ur just boring and wrong 99% of the time

 

 

 

Back on track with the original purpose of the thread, the addition of cosmetics. 

 

(Seriously dude, this is the year 2014 if your gonna google shit to prove a point at least find images from the current era if this game is set in a future not to far off from our own how about an image from a post soviet state like i dunno fuck it lets go all in like UKRAINE for example :- https://www.google.no/search?q=ukraine+images+riot&client=firefox-a&hs=u1k&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=fflb&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=MsgzU7LmBcrI0wW-2IFg&ved=0CCUQsAQ&biw=1334&bih=742 i would post just one picture but i figured that search result showed enough to be a lot more interesting to prove that in fact your idea of what the east is like and what reality kicks u in the teeth to tell you it actually looks like are hugely seperate (kind of like what your idea of an mmo game is or could be and what it actually is or could be, also note how soon AMERICA WILL YEEHAAAAW OVER THERE PROBABLY WEARING COWBOY HATS SHOUTING THIS COUNTRY IS BASICALLY OWNED BY US NOW (great reason why an outbreak like dayz may occur (chemical warfare and such) and why you may find cowboy hats there in the future) no seriously this is what america would do if they could)

 

 

http://static1.businessinsider.com/image/524203ed6bb3f79e258b4569/heartwarming-video-follows-retired-russian-farmer-on-his-first-trip-away-from-home--to-new-york-city.jpg

http://lizasworld.typepad.com/curiouser/images/2007/05/27/russian_farmer_.jpghttp://nowwearesixty.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/russian-farmer1.jpg

 

dude these images prove nothing about what a country that ISNT RUSSIA or a place that is full of people who are from the last generation of almost dead people "seriously u use a site called NOW WE ARE SIXTY DOT WORDPRESS DOT COM.... numpty *rollseyes*

Here's what a farmer would be wearing (30 years ago maybe), by the way. Note the headgear. (russian ushankas from the 80's-90's????) I had a considerable look around. (one fricking website and wikipedia *claps slowly then draws for the 3-57) Ushankas, flatcaps and flatcaps. (lol stereotyping people cos you never met a russian or ukrainian or any other eastern european and are a stupid, ignorant, cunt means nothing to me) I did find one cowboy hat wearing farmer in Google Images, which turned out to be from Americablog.com (i can get google to not show me what i dont want to prove myself wrong with too, if i dont search for long enough after typing crap that would never lead to me finding something that proved me wrong) You see, it's the wrong fucking climate for cowboy hats,(so what, people get drunk and order shit off ebay that doesnt fit the climate they live in sometimes) which are designed to keep your head cool via protection from the sun and air flow. Russia is cold. Czechoslovakia is cold (AND DOESNT EXIST, AAAAAAAND is where the game was made AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND guess what is now full of foreigners making this fucking game for you ONE OF WHICH MAY HAVE A COWBOY HAT FOR TEH LULZ).......... . The sun is welcome. I'm happy to let it go at cowboy hats, but as OP was saying that's where it needs to stop, before we end up with Prada (made in italy which is close in comparrison to cowboy hat land to eastern european countries (where lots of people unlike you would have the intherrrrwebs beleive, are really fashioon conscious and buy lots of this kinda shit fyi) and Vans (your really clutching at straws here dude, everyone around the whole fucking world loves a decent pair of vans, and has the internet AND ELECTRICITY so really just, crawl to your hole and think for a change) and snapbacks (caps are already in game (snapback refers to those little plastic things that u can pop open that make the hat bigger and smaller so as to allow one hat to fit many heads but you wouldnt know that cos you think snapback is a FASHION cos YOUR AND IGNORANT KID) everywhere "IT WOULD MAKE SENSE FOR THEM TO HAVE HIGHTOPS! EVERYONE IS RICH!" (<<<<< why did you write this bit as if its not actually true and try to capitalise it as if to make out your making a point anyone cares about or that proves anything except how terribly wrong and stupid most of your brain seems to be????? just wondered)and we need to focus on stuff that actually makes sense in the country the game is set in. (well your clearly an untravelled bumpkin living in the 1970's clinging to that cold war russia shit like a nazi, no one cares what you think or gives you beans, lets hope you have no impact on this games development whatsoever and stay in whatever armpit of the planet you are from and dont possibly infect some poor woman with your ignorant seed) also please tell me what country the game IS SET IN just so i can rib you some more for how judgemental and wrong you are about what people in those countries do or do not wear and or buy online please, waking up to notifications like yours in my emails in the mornings gives me a great way to get rid of that just woke up and feel like shit vibe by lambasting you for being an ignorant mong with no braincells

 

 

:emptycan:  here eat the contents of this "unknown" can its not full of pooh honest....

[Ninja_Meh 115]

also google+20 seconds typing = http://www.bloomberg.com/image/i0sYh_sd.SI8.jpg point made retard

 

 

edit: cos next search result ='d http://sports.yahoo.com/photos/visitor-olympic-park-wears-russian-photo-141255613--spt.html

 

edit: cos to make point in case about almost every general sweeping statement u made

 

oh yeah an source for below  good old wiki http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/National_Etiquette_Differences_in_Europe

European etiquette globally

Many customs regarding good behavior have been exported to places with cultural traditions based in Europe, including America, Oceania, South Africa and so on. Therefore, much of this article is limited to the discussion of etiquette which is peculiar to only a particular part of Europe.

Generalizations

While Europe contains a wide variety of social traditions, it is also (excluding Russia) relatively compact, well-traveled and urbanized compared to many other continents or cultural areas. As such many expectations regarding etiquette are shared across Europe.

Avoid stereotypes and generalizations, because you are likely to cause offense to the country you are visiting and shows your country in a negative way.

Generalizations are never good, e.g. all British people drink tea with biscuits at least once a day etc. Just as not all Americans chew "spitting' tobacco" and wear cowboy hats there are cultural variations and you should never make an assumption asking is the safest thing to do.

 

edit: just cos trolling you with things like pics of AN ACTUAL INDIAN IN An ACTUAL COWBOY HAT IS TOO FUN TROLLING

 

i mean seriously, i out do you in every way possible dude, and this pic just helps to make that bold statement true, even the dalai lama looks like he wants to slap you for dissin the cowboy hat goodness http://blog.estately.com/assets/dalailamacowboy.jpg

Edited March 27, 2014 by Ninja_Meh

[Drunken Knife 17]

Hello all, I am sorry if this offends you but dayz has become something wrong. Too many technicalities and process that it just ends up being no fun. What I was hoping it would be was a graphically updated version of the mod. The free-to-dress characters take away from the game. The clothes no longer indicated whether you are a hero or a bandit. Blood bagging is just horrific in SA unlike the mod and most other processes are. Loot spawn is fine for its current stage (alpha) but loot itself is getting goofy. Payday masks, rotten bananas, and cowboy hats in Russia?Focus on the core meaning of the game and then add in the little things suc as a new hat or a shirt. People on the forums want to change the game too much and the devs are listening. Threads are continuously asking for less guns and more cowboy hats and trench coats.

It is some better part for a survival game if you can't indicate a hero/bandit by his clothes.

[kOepi (DayZ) 35]

is this the complaint forum?
nah, it is the suggestions one.

[Inception. 9443]

I know right, some people... if i could slapo him through the internet i would, but judging by his ignorance if i could do that and did i would get arrested for virtual child abuse (he must be a kid, if not i worry for this "adults" offspring)

 

This kind of behaviour is not acceptable. As is your attitude in the following post:

SORRY HAD TO QUOTE THIS ONE JUST TO POINT OUT WHERE YOU WERE ALL LIKE "THIS IS NOT AN MMO *observes idiot desperately using some form of technicality to "throw his toy out of pram" toy in this case seems to = your brain in this case

 

 

 

 

 

^<---- had to quote myself just cos i totally within this post define this game to a T and in a way that perfectly encompasses the fact it is a "hybrid" of what is currently seen as an mmo game plus i think you should read it again, not that you will, hell your clearly an ignoramus who I'd love to meet in a real dayz style situation (boy i know what you would be getting from me, and it certainly wouldnt be a "hey noob you look like u could do with a hand would you like some food so you can survive and possibly hang out with some other cool guys i know who are surviving in this harsh setting") no it would be more like................ click click *holds breath* BANG *loots your trousers so everyone knows you got shot for nothing and your trousers stolen by cool people* lol

 

pattern forming with self quoting here, ps still more interesting than quoting you so far  :P

 

and again

 

 

 

 

Back on track with the original purpose of the thread, the addition of cosmetics. 

 

(Seriously dude, this is the year 2014 if your gonna google shit to prove a point at least find images from the current era if this game is set in a future not to far off from our own how about an image from a post soviet state like i dunno fuck it lets go all in like UKRAINE for example :- https://www.google.no/search?q=ukraine+images+riot&client=firefox-a&hs=u1k&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=fflb&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=MsgzU7LmBcrI0wW-2IFg&ved=0CCUQsAQ&biw=1334&bih=742 i would post just one picture but i figured that search result showed enough to be a lot more interesting to prove that in fact your idea of what the east is like and what reality kicks u in the teeth to tell you it actually looks like are hugely seperate (kind of like what your idea of an mmo game is or could be and what it actually is or could be, also note how soon AMERICA WILL YEEHAAAAW OVER THERE PROBABLY WEARING COWBOY HATS SHOUTING THIS COUNTRY IS BASICALLY OWNED BY US NOW (great reason why an outbreak like dayz may occur (chemical warfare and such) and why you may find cowboy hats there in the future) no seriously this is what america would do if they could)

 

 

http://static1.businessinsider.com/image/524203ed6bb3f79e258b4569/heartwarming-video-follows-retired-russian-farmer-on-his-first-trip-away-from-home--to-new-york-city.jpg

http://lizasworld.typepad.com/curiouser/images/2007/05/27/russian_farmer_.jpghttp://nowwearesixty.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/russian-farmer1.jpg

 

dude these images prove nothing about what a country that ISNT RUSSIA or a place that is full of people who are from the last generation of almost dead people "seriously u use a site called NOW WE ARE SIXTY DOT WORDPRESS DOT COM.... numpty *rollseyes*

Here's what a farmer would be wearing (30 years ago maybe), by the way. Note the headgear. (russian ushankas from the 80's-90's????) I had a considerable look around. (one fricking website and wikipedia *claps slowly then draws for the 3-57) Ushankas, flatcaps and flatcaps. (lol stereotyping people cos you never met a russian or ukrainian or any other eastern european and are a stupid, ignorant, cunt means nothing to me) I did find one cowboy hat wearing farmer in Google Images, which turned out to be from Americablog.com (i can get google to not show me what i dont want to prove myself wrong with too, if i dont search for long enough after typing crap that would never lead to me finding something that proved me wrong) You see, it's the wrong fucking climate for cowboy hats,(so what, people get drunk and order shit off ebay that doesnt fit the climate they live in sometimes) which are designed to keep your head cool via protection from the sun and air flow. Russia is cold. Czechoslovakia is cold (AND DOESNT EXIST, AAAAAAAND is where the game was made AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND guess what is now full of foreigners making this fucking game for you ONE OF WHICH MAY HAVE A COWBOY HAT FOR TEH LULZ).......... . The sun is welcome. I'm happy to let it go at cowboy hats, but as OP was saying that's where it needs to stop, before we end up with Prada (made in italy which is close in comparrison to cowboy hat land to eastern european countries (where lots of people unlike you would have the intherrrrwebs beleive, are really fashioon conscious and buy lots of this kinda shit fyi) and Vans (your really clutching at straws here dude, everyone around the whole fucking world loves a decent pair of vans, and has the internet AND ELECTRICITY so really just, crawl to your hole and think for a change) and snapbacks (caps are already in game (snapback refers to those little plastic things that u can pop open that make the hat bigger and smaller so as to allow one hat to fit many heads but you wouldnt know that cos you think snapback is a FASHION cos YOUR AND IGNORANT KID) everywhere "IT WOULD MAKE SENSE FOR THEM TO HAVE HIGHTOPS! EVERYONE IS RICH!" (<<<<< why did you write this bit as if its not actually true and try to capitalise it as if to make out your making a point anyone cares about or that proves anything except how terribly wrong and stupid most of your brain seems to be????? just wondered)and we need to focus on stuff that actually makes sense in the country the game is set in. (well your clearly an untravelled bumpkin living in the 1970's clinging to that cold war russia shit like a nazi, no one cares what you think or gives you beans, lets hope you have no impact on this games development whatsoever and stay in whatever armpit of the planet you are from and dont possibly infect some poor woman with your ignorant seed) also please tell me what country the game IS SET IN just so i can rib you some more for how judgemental and wrong you are about what people in those countries do or do not wear and or buy online please, waking up to notifications like yours in my emails in the mornings gives me a great way to get rid of that just woke up and feel like shit vibe by lambasting you for being an ignorant mong with no braincells

 

 

:emptycan:  here eat the contents of this "unknown" can its not full of pooh honest....

 

Also, please try and avoid having a ridiculous amount of text in all red.

[Ninja_Meh 115]

This kind of behaviour is not acceptable. As is your attitude in the following post:

 

Also, please try and avoid having a ridiculous amount of text in all red.

Point taken on and noted

 

guy just was being a tool so i battled like with like. i shall not respond anymore, my point was made with that ultimate post to this guys   opinion. i will stick to the more elegant manner in which i usually contribute to these forums and continue to bug test instead of bicker, thanks for not banning me :P this was a first thing in the morning reply so i did go somewhat overboard, and knew that before i even posted. feedback and testing is where u find my more useful contributions anyways :P laters

 

 

ps will be keeping an eye on how many beans my rant gets for the point of self gratification. apologies to all except the guy i was retorting

[theswedishcathead 59]

Alpha do not buy it until there done dean already said it. You should of just not bought it's not ready yet thus making it not fun or almost playable. I think they will improve the game much more later on you just have to wait.

[ld-airgrafix 403]

You said "help from devs", implying something had to be created that players can't. You were saying "I know players are meant to do X, but blah blah help from devs" and I made the logical assumption it was something players couldn't make themselves.

Sorry should have been more specific, help from devs, I meant give us the ability to build fences, wooden or wire. Something we can use to fence off an area, in a field, away from towns. Of course make it darn impossible for a single player to be able to complete a large area on his/her own. This will cause players to band and work together. Give us something to do, and once bandits realise players aren't coming into big towns anymore, most will abandon their kos ways, probably show their true colors and drop the game altogether.

It would become a true survival game, some players gathering food and resources, others building fences. I think this would also reduce server hopping as your building is only on one server. Once the compound is finished, fences should be breachable by players or/and zombies, causing players to guard the perimeter, create duties for your team. Maybe we can have a turf war, over whose hunting ground it is. Rather than have single player squabbles, declare war on your neighbours. And all this without magic safe zones. I'm personally getting tired of wandering around aimlessly.

[DURRHUNTER 597]

People are really getting fired up over this, in the end we will all still play it, no matter how bad/good it turns out.

[bobotype3334 160]

Sorry should have been more specific, help from devs, I meant give us the ability to build fences, wooden or wire. Something we can use to fence off an area, in a field, away from towns. Of course make it darn impossible for a single player to be able to complete a large area on his/her own. This will cause players to band and work together. Give us something to do, and once bandits realise players aren't coming into big towns anymore, most will abandon their kos ways, probably show their true colors and drop the game altogether.

It would become a true survival game, some players gathering food and resources, others building fences. I think this would also reduce server hopping as your building is only on one server. Once the compound is finished, fences should be breachable by players or/and zombies, causing players to guard the perimeter, create duties for your team. Maybe we can have a turf war, over whose hunting ground it is. Rather than have single player squabbles, declare war on your neighbours. And all this without magic safe zones. I'm personally getting tired of wandering around aimlessly.

Base building is indeed confirmed and I can't wait till it arrives, I want to see solo players building log cabins in the woods too [and occasionally having the odd zombie or player wander by].

[srgntpepper 85]

why do people still bother to comment on this and bump it as a result, I'm responding just in the hopes that people stop bothering to respond.

 

Like I'm not rying to sound mean, but this is just a big rant and it seems like people are just feeding the trolls here.

 

idk maybe I'm wrong....

Edited March 28, 2014 by srgnt.pepper