PiercyBearZ 4 Posted March 16, 2014 That's why I reserve the right to rescind my comment if it makes it to retail. (; To be absolutely clear, I've gotten $30 worth from this game already, however, I'd hazard a guess that most of the people who bought it didn't. If the game makes it to a final release, those people can return and play the game they bought many moons before with a 50% discount. But, if for some reason it doesn't make it to release, they're SOL. With the convenient disclaimer, Bohemia Interactive needn't worry about people complaining because, well, WE WARNJA! Slapping a disclaimer on the Steam Store and one in-game is just a convenient way to cover one's ass. Imagine if retail stores worked in this fashion. I can see the rioting now! I have a very good imagination.... Store Clerk: '' Yes Sir, These new pants are in development. Half price but they are not quite finished. ''Grimey Rick: '' Ahhh, Half price you say? Development? ''Store Clerk: '' Yes half price because the tailor hasent finished them. Only one leg you see so if you try and wear them everyone will see your junk '' Works the same way really dosent it. Everyone has a choice. You don't even have an arguement. What's with all the not making it to release nonsense? Seriously. Get out more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caboose187 (DayZ) 3036 Posted March 16, 2014 This thread in a nutshell Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grimey Rick 3417 Posted March 16, 2014 I have a very good imagination.... Store Clerk: '' Yes Sir, These new pants are in development. Half price but they are not quite finished. ''Grimey Rick: '' Ahhh, Half price you say? Development? ''Store Clerk: '' Yes half price because the tailor hasent finished them. Only one leg you see so if you try and wear them everyone will see your junk '' Works the same way really dosent it. Everyone has a choice. You don't even have an arguement. What's with all the not making it to release nonsense? Seriously. Get out more. LOLOL That's my point. It wouldn't happen. No one would buy them, because... THEY'RE NOT FINISHED. If anything, the tailor would have to pay someone to wear the pants while he, y'know, does whatever tailors do to pants until they're finished so he can sell them. Hence my point I've made at least three times, now: why do we have to pay for an alpha? Aren't we regressing in so doing? I've been a part of a lot of alphas, and I've never been asked to pay for them. I've never even had to pay for betas, e.g: SC2 HotS, Hearthstone, etc. To clarify, the only reason I paid for this alpha was because my friends bugged the shit out of me until I did. They've all since moved on. #irony Everyone assumes this game is going to release, and I seriously hope it does and isn't an outdated piece of garbage by the time it hits stores, but no one is considering the potential that it doesn't get released. The lead developer claims the game is flawed and is also leaving the project once it hits beta as he believes his ideals are a hindrance to the game. The lead developer. He's also said in a live stream that he doesn't care if anyone else buys the alpha because they've made enough money and would be shooting themselves in the foot by promoting it, which is the only smart thing I've heard said about the manner in which they've been marketing DayZ thus far. They could've made the alpha free and made double the money, which is good business. Free alpha, $60 at launch. Instead, they charge $30 for alpha and nothing at launch, so they're effectively losing 50% of their potential income, which is fucking dumb/bad business. That leads me to believe that this game isn't necessarily as concrete as everyone seems to think. Why would you do that? Like I said, I'll rescind my comments when it happens. As for you PiercyBearZ, you're a weak troll, offer weak arguments, and even weaker examples for your arguments. Either that, or you're just so intelligent you've actually gone full-circle into complete obliviousness. #ilold Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stang725 (DayZ) 0 Posted March 16, 2014 (edited) I would just be happy with them starting to address and fix the issues that basically allow for players and zombies to jump into, up, down, and basically through walls/ceilings that should be blocking movement and should render from any possible view point as a solid object that is impassable. I often deal with people coming up through a wall to the 2nd floor with four walls and a door and they somehow kill me from behind. Repeat that about 6 times out of a 24hr play-period and its just kind of frustrating. I have ran into several people that I'm pretty sure have a hack going for radar(some prob have 3D HUD radar) and it basically ruins the game to a degree and Its getting harder and harder to be able to dedicate time to make 20-45min runs to get back to a point where you could locate a spawn for both a gun and its required ammo. I'm fine dying 100x if at least 80%+ are just due to me sucking at the game or a group getting the better of me, but sadly about 50% of my deaths are just because people are often glitching up and through walls or teleporting with some hack you can find on Google. Again, I love this game and I will still play it for awhile, but at some point you gotta bring this to beta and some of these bugs and poorly defined land features/boundaries are going to stop the dev from bringing this great concept of a game out of beta. I realize its alpha right now, but based on the sales that you guys have been racked up thus far on steam, I would think someone over there could provide more periodic updates on things and lay out the game plan for a release candidate (not a release date). Trust me, it would ultimately drive sales higher and allow for you guys to bring in additional resources to polish things up so the core team can actually work on the mechanics and those new features that you want implemented into the final game. I'm pretty sure investing in some additional resources would ultimately bring in exponential returns should this game shine when it is fully released at some point in time.Please don't get me wrong, I like in-depth features that divert some of the focus from KOS to stuff like being able to cook, but major issues like the items mentioned above will turn people away and that's less word of mouth/exposure to bring additional gamers that are willing to buy the game. To me, this is simply going to go one or two ways: (less copies sold = less potential of an awesome game) or ( more copies sold = this game takes off and we someday see it as a AAA title on PC and maybe a next-gen console). Maybe somewhere in-between and who really knows anyway... but I really do hope they follow through on quickly getting this game closer to a beta stage by year's end so we can see it take off around the holidays. Edited March 16, 2014 by stang725 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bioned 36 Posted March 16, 2014 lol half the forum is full of fanboys who think yelling ALPHA bs is the solution to everything (including certain mods) im with you on that one man 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caboose187 (DayZ) 3036 Posted March 16, 2014 The only trolls in the thread, Rick, are you, the OP and everyone who agrees with he OP. You were warned before in putting a dime down not to buy this game but you did anyway so just stfu and suck it up, or leave. Plain and simple. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gekkonidae 270 Posted March 16, 2014 not you too irish!!nooooooooooooooooo I have to admit, I laughed at his response. :P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grimey Rick 3417 Posted March 16, 2014 The only trolls in the thread, Rick, are you, the OP and everyone who agrees with he OP. You were warned before in putting a dime down not to buy this game but you did anyway so just stfu and suck it up, or leave. Plain and simple. How does that titty milk taste, Caboose1871238912787123? I've attempted to explain a very simple fucking concept. These forums are hilarious: if you rock the boat even a little bit with anything outside of the little box, you get the actual zombies of DayZ pushing each other out of the way to defend the machine. Unfortunately, the in-game zombie AI is a lot better. Quote the disclaimer all you want, even a freshman in economics would agree with me. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted March 16, 2014 The only trolls in the thread, Rick, are you, the OP and everyone who agrees with he OP. You were warned before in putting a dime down not to buy this game but you did anyway so just stfu and suck it up, or leave. Plain and simple.Caboose, i know u like discussions, probably as much as i do - my advice, stop wasting your time on those ignorants - it's senseless, they'll never get wise. You can talk untill your face becomes blue... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caboose187 (DayZ) 3036 Posted March 16, 2014 Caboose, i know u like discussions, probably as much as i do - my advice, stop wasting your time on those ignorants - it's senseless, they'll never get wise. You can talk untill your face becomes blue...Oh I know. I'm just really pushing to get this thread closed, that's all :p It's a waste of forum space Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grimey Rick 3417 Posted March 16, 2014 Caboose, i know u like discussions, probably as much as i do - my advice, stop wasting your time on those ignorants - it's senseless, they'll never get wise. You can talk untill your face becomes blue... Your signature nullifies anything intelligent you might attempt to convey, dude. Oh I know. I'm just really pushing to get this thread closed, that's all :P It's a waste of forum space If you don't click the link to the thread, you don't have to read its contents. CRAZY RIGHT? Continue with the bean reach-arounds, guys. I'll help get the thread closed for you. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Inception. 9443 Posted March 16, 2014 Your signature nullifies anything intelligent you might attempt to convey, dude. Your rude behaviour is unnecessary, dude. The same goes for the rest of you.-- This topic's discussion has had its time and evidently the ladies and gentlemen participating said discussion are unable to be nice.Locked. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
