cav_guy 62 Posted February 17, 2014 Been playing for about a week and having a blast. No game has ever got my heart racing like this one. I saw some reference to this in another thread and wanted to ask the specific question: Is there any etiquette for wearing helmets/masks in DayZ? It seems that a lot of people will KOS if you're wearing a mask and/or ballistic helmet because they assume you're a bandit. The fact that I'm running around with a gas mask and ballistic helmet right now may explain why people are avoiding me or just randomly shooting at me. I don't want to drop the helmet, as I know it has saved my skin several times from both zombies and other players but I'd gladly drop the gas mask if it offers no protective benefit. Is there any reason to wear the gas mask other than to say "I'm a bandit"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
irl-calibre 744 Posted February 17, 2014 its just cosmetic at the minute, hopefully they will have a function at some point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Combine (DayZ) 247 Posted February 17, 2014 If anything, pay day masks could imply bandit. Not gas masks. There's no universal rule to this, really. The guy wearing full gear AND a mask could be the most friendly guy to find while the "average Joe" (by the looks) could look so friendly but be the worst asshole. Might just be a bandit that died and is gearing up again. Besides, some masks may give benefits in the future. Or drawbacks. So when it comes down to it, it doesn't mean much. You could assume that fully geared loners MIGHT be more inclined to shoot, however. If too attached to the gear and generally not friendly players or neutral. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cywehner1234 582 Posted February 17, 2014 Actually Gas masks do have a use against sickness and spreading within the group that you play with. Sickness is contagious, according to dean. Also, balistic helmets DO offer protection to head head for up to 1 bullet and still living, but you will have a grey screen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boneboys 7988 Posted February 17, 2014 In a group use for identification. I have a Pilots helmet with wolf mask, others have cowboy/beret/ballistic/MC helmet/.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dethsupport 110 Posted February 17, 2014 If anything, pay day masks could imply bandit. Not gas masks. There's no universal rule to this, really. The guy wearing full gear AND a mask could be the most friendly guy to find while the "average Joe" (by the looks) could look so friendly but be the worst asshole. Might just be a bandit that died and is gearing up again.I wear a payday mask and I'm quite friendly. I may ambush you, tell you to strip naked and wiggle for me, but I'll always let you go in better condition if you comply by giving you beans, taking you to the water points or even making you the improvised backpack when I happen to have all three materials. In a group use for identification.I have a Pilots helmet with wolf mask, others have cowboy/beret/ballistic/MC helmet/....My fire-team rolls around with one of each payday mask and the last member with a gas mask for identifying each other. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toasted duckie 156 Posted February 17, 2014 I personally do judge someone by his appearance. Someone who is fully loaded and strives to look "bad ass" by ie having a payday mask on his face, is considdered more of a threat to me, so the thresshold to shoot at this person gets lower and my awareness will rise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
enforcer1975 1111 Posted February 17, 2014 (edited) randomly shooting at me That's a rare occurrence in DayZ, i would stay in Elektro or Cherno, this way you are more likely to be punched than shot at... :P ;) Edited February 17, 2014 by Enforcer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cav_guy 62 Posted February 17, 2014 Thanks all. I think I'll leave the mask off until I join up with some people. The helmet is staying. That's a rare occurrence in DayZ, i would stay in Elektro or Cherno, this way you are more likely to be punched than shot at... :P ;)That got a good laugh out of me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The-MCV- 149 Posted February 17, 2014 I have a helmet + mask on hardcore but not for the purpose of banditry. I'm deep in the woods though so I don't really care if people assume I'm a bandit if we stumble into each others even there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spiderdude20 32 Posted February 17, 2014 I keep the helmet for protective purposes, and the gas mask for added badassery + protection from sickness, but don't assume I am a bandit and shoot me, or I WILL shoot and kill you right back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1S1K-Airborne 148 Posted February 17, 2014 Been playing for about a week and having a blast. No game has ever got my heart racing like this one. I saw some reference to this in another thread and wanted to ask the specific question: Is there any etiquette for wearing helmets/masks in DayZ? It seems that a lot of people will KOS if you're wearing a mask and/or ballistic helmet because they assume you're a bandit. The fact that I'm running around with a gas mask and ballistic helmet right now may explain why people are avoiding me or just randomly shooting at me. I don't want to drop the helmet, as I know it has saved my skin several times from both zombies and other players but I'd gladly drop the gas mask if it offers no protective benefit. Is there any reason to wear the gas mask other than to say "I'm a bandit"? Everything in this game says you're a bandit. Mask, no mask. Helmet, no helmet. Clothes, no clothes. This game is mostly KOS, with a few random other type encounters. Don't lose the gear, just understand the grand majority of the time, it's all KOS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
herrjon 478 Posted February 17, 2014 Actually Gas masks do have a use against sickness and spreading within the group that you play with. Sickness is contagious, according to dean. Also, balistic helmets DO offer protection to head head for up to 1 bullet and still living, but you will have a grey screen. Sickness WILL be contagious when that sort of sickness is actually implemented. Right now all there is is food poisoning, which would be silly to be contagious. There is a "biological" value associated with the gas mask and the respirator, but nothing checks for those values yet. Basically, they will serve a purpose in terms of health, but those functions aren't in the game yet, so there's no need to wear them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tmar09 19 Posted February 18, 2014 In a group use for identification.I have a Pilots helmet with wolf mask, others have cowboy/beret/ballistic/MC helmet/....horrible idea, i am not sacrificing protective gear for ID purposes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boneboys 7988 Posted February 18, 2014 horrible idea, i am not sacrificing protective gear for ID purposesOur group members are free to choose how they dress their heads. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kerwyn 77 Posted February 18, 2014 I used to be a loot hoarder, and so I would rock the full TTsKO set, with helmet, mask, and all to look cool and maximize my inventory space. But recently I've gotten bored of looking like a Spec-Ops Dropout, and I've been rocking a hoodie, jeans, and a cowboy hat for a few lives. Since this change I have not noticed one iota of difference in how people treat me. Those who play friendly, are still friendly, and those who were going to shoot on sight anyway, still do. Really the only difference I've noticed is that now all I have to do is hit a few barns and I have my outfit back, instead of trying to hit the military bases that are all server-hopped and bare. Perhaps there are some people who will hesitate to kill someone who isn't wearing "bandit" gear, I don't know. Myself, I tend to react based on other factors. Looks do come into it, but our respective positions and the way you stand are more of a tell to me. Having a firearm drawn means that you are expecting, or looking for trouble, and I am far more likely to shoot you if I can't evade you. If your weapon is stowed, I will attempt to communicate with you, but if you do not respond, or attempt to drawn a gun, I'll shoot you. I will never fire on an unarmed person unless he leaves me no choice. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaMaakus 34 Posted February 18, 2014 Why do people actually believe that anything the do or wear provoke or prevent KoS'ing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toby_As 0 Posted February 18, 2014 Masks don´t prevent KOS! We did use masks Dallas/Wolf (badly damaged) for identification if we´re on Bandit Hunting in Cherno and Elektro. Since we use them in combination with our clothing rules our Friendly fire kill rate is nearly 0 :-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobbyb85 3 Posted February 18, 2014 Finally got kitted out today. Still the same friendly guy I was. Still lone wolf though as not met many that want to be the same. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ColdHeat 59 Posted May 7, 2014 It seems that a lot of people will KOS if you're wearing a mask and/or ballistic helmet because they assume you're a bandit. The fact that I'm running around with a gas mask and ballistic helmet right now may explain why people are avoiding me or just randomly shooting at me. I don't want to drop the helmet, as I know it has saved my skin several times from both zombies and other players but I'd gladly drop the gas mask if it offers no protective benefit. Is there any reason to wear the gas mask other than to say "I'm a bandit"?As someone already wrote exept maybe for Payday masks there's no uniform codex of what's bandit gear and what not. The guy under the gasmask could be your next best friend. Yet it appears there's one psychological factor increasing the possibility to be killed on sight by even non-bandits: How intimiating/threatening you appear. On the one hand a lot of non-bandit people have described that they shoot people without warning depending where they meet them, if they have a gun in their hands, how they hold it (aimed, relaxed or on their back), if they wear military gear and so on. So everything that makes you appear more civilian, bambi-esque or Crocodile Dundee like possibly increases your chance that someone will not fire at you. On the other hand Motorbike helmets, gas masks or bandanas over your mouth have the problem that they de-humanize. If you cannot see someones face to read emotions etc, you empathize less with him and it makes it harder to trust him as well. You could argue about it but I guess to a certain extent this phenomenon also works in games. People with masks remind you less to a human being so you have a lesser problem with killing him. So it's really all about how this game plays with subliminal fears, mistrust and brutalization.. which ultimatively makes it so appealing. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barnabus 1708 Posted May 8, 2014 As someone already wrote exept maybe for Payday masks there's no uniform codex of what's bandit gear and what not. The guy under the gasmask could be your next best friend. Yet it appears there's one psychological factor increasing the possibility to be killed on sight by even non-bandits: How intimiating/threatening you appear. On the one hand a lot of non-bandit people have described that they shoot people without warning depending where they meet them, if they have a gun in their hands, how they hold it (aimed, relaxed or on their back), if they wear military gear and so on. So everything that makes you appear more civilian, bambi-esque or Crocodile Dundee like possibly increases your chance that someone will not fire at you. On the other hand Motorbike helmets, gas masks or bandanas over your mouth have the problem that they de-humanize. If you cannot see someones face to read emotions etc, you empathize less with him and it makes it harder to trust him as well. You could argue about it but I guess to a certain extent this phenomenon also works in games. People with masks remind you less to a human being so you have a lesser problem with killing him. So it's really all about how this game plays with subliminal fears, mistrust and brutalization.. which ultimatively makes it so appealing.LOL, some nice, basic anthropology there! However, we cannot read faces in this game anyway since they are toon faces. It is one thing to read an actual human face, even your dog can do it, but in game that just is not possble. We cannot read faces in game since there are no "tells", no twitches or sweat, no nothing which we normally go by. Seeing a mask generally will make me very wary, a mask and no pants will definitely get you shot by me if I see it. At best we have voice and inflection, if someone will even bother to speak to you before shooting you in the back of the head. Personally, I never wear a mask, except for the surgical one occasionally and if I am not in an area with a zed threat I will not wear a helmet and go with a ball cap or boonie hat instead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DMentMan 707 Posted May 8, 2014 before i used gas masks, but not anymore, now its all about the Rocket Aviators and the ballistic helmet, and don´t forget that full tTsKo clothing… yeah. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hrki 94 Posted May 8, 2014 it doesent make point at all... all tipe of clothes can make you bandit if you are mentaly one of them... i am fresh spawn with a gun in my trousers i will kill you :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ColdHeat 59 Posted May 8, 2014 (edited) However, we cannot read faces in this game anyway since they are toon faces. It is one thing to read an actual human face, even your dog can do it, but in game that just is not possble. Personally, I never wear a mask, except for the surgical one occasionally and if I am not in an area with a zed threat I will not wear a helmet and go with a ball cap or boonie hat instead.Yeah I know it's a brazen statement of mine. Yet I somewhat believe that even though we logically know that in a game like DayZ reading other peoples faces isn't going to help a single bit because it's simply not possible (just as trying to read their body language) subliminal we cannot put out that switch and still try it which might lead to the assumption that when we see someone who masks and hide his face he most likely could have evil intentions and is unwilling to "reveal his true intentions" by putting a mask on so that we cannot read him. What also comes to my mind is being indoctrinated by Hollywood that those guys who wear masks must be terrorists or robbers.. and not harmless skier for example. Now that I think of it we really need those balaclavas in the game to drive people crazy. ^^ Regarding the surgical mask: be careful. Someone might think you're a mad doctor who tries to experiment with him. xDD Edited May 8, 2014 by ColdHeat 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
