Define "Bandit" Please

[KerrSG1 113]

well .explain to me and all the other players then: what exactly is your pretentious idea of this developing game, exactly? because you and the other 2 of your kind of player seem to be somewhat off ..compared to the rest of us 1387280 players...

 

Exaggerate much?  Here's one back at you.  Go back to playing COD with zombies if all you see is a game meant to kill other players.

[irl-calibre 744]

in its simplest terms anyone who performs a positive action = hero, negative = ? you got it, bandit. - obviously there are varying degrees.

[Kaw 23]

Most would consider me a bandit, because I kill/rob players when I want supplies, or if I feel even remotely at risk.

 

However I consider myself a lesser "Bandit" then allot of others.

 

-I don't sit near or on the beach killing freshies. nor do I kill lightly kited players

-I don't run/camp/snipe around cities pretending I'm playing CoD

-I dont kill for the fun of it.

 

To me its just logical, a dark logic but still. Why risk entering a city/town/military compound when I can wait by common traffic paths an "gather" my gear that way...Its a dog eat dog world.

 

but for every player I kill 3-5 pass by unharmed, an unaware of my presence.

Edited February 13, 2014 by Kaw

[weedmasta 784]

I don't distinguish people as bandit or not bandit. For me everyone is a potential threat and gets the same treatment. Whether that be by securing the person with handcuffs and taking away all their ammo or shooting them in the face for not answering/complying with my demands.

[Gekkonidae 270]

I don't think that good samaritans would kill someone for their gear to survive longer. Sorry, but that's not usually how that works. A good samaritan would give the shirt off of their back if someone needed it and would look for alternative ways to gear up, like actually hunting for it themselves, or be rewarded for helping others. 

 

If you know 'good samaritans' that do this, they aren't good at all. They are people who choose to temporarily be a KoS or more of a bandit by killing someone else, stealing their shit and then try to assume the good guy role. I'm failing to understand how that is good at all.

[Gekkonidae 270]

I don't distinguish people as bandit or not bandit. For me everyone is a potential threat and gets the same treatment. Whether that be by securing the person with handcuffs and taking away all their ammo or shooting them in the face for not answering/complying with my demands.

 

Best way to approach it brother.

[soulfirez 901]

 

ban·dit

ˈbandit/

noun

 

1. 1.

   a robber or outlaw belonging to a gang and typically operating in an isolated or lawless area.

   "the bandit produced a weapon and demanded money"

   synonyms: robber, thief, outlaw, gunman, crook, mugger, gangster, raider,freebooter, hijacker, looter, marauder, bandito; More

 

In my opinion, a bandit is a thief. He is someone that holds you up and steals your goods. He doesn't necessarily kill you. I believe the terms "bandit" and "kill on sight" are getting mixed up these days.

 

Exactly right its seems in Dayz that bandit=KOS hell i have tried to fight this but sadly i have joined those who say bandit and mean KOS killer.

 

PS how people identify bandits/KOS they generally dont they just shoot being KOS bandits themselves but say yeah another bandit down cause they want to feel there the good guys saving things rather than they are just the same.. Or my favorite bandit give aways hmm cammo MUST be bandit bang bang. He is carrying a gun in his hands MUST be bandit. carries axe while killing zeds look axe maniac...

[Gekkonidae 270]

If it comes to definitions then I think its a question of intent.  A bandit will kill people who aren't a threat for gain or fun, where as a "hero" will only kill if they perceive a threat.  Thats it really.  Hopefully there will be some more in-depth mechanics later on, at least for regular servers, I'd be cool with hardcore staying more "realistic" if that's the right word.

 

I'd prefer their not be much of a distinguishing factor, and let the community sort it out to a degree.

 

I see people bitching and moaning about being shot on sight all the time. Hell, even I prepare myself for it in any situation. You're dumb not to, but it's up to the players to determine that based on the encounter. 

 

I've met some really cool people in the game already based on some what would otherwise be bloody shootouts. I've been in a few situations where both of us had our guns drawn on one another, barking orders, and decided not to fire. It does happen. I don't want that element of surprise to be taken away. I like the game the way it is.

 

Being a bandit is easy. It's easier when you find other bandits to team with. The same goes for Anti-KoSers. You need to have that moment to make a choice. 

[soulfirez 901]

I'd prefer their not be much of a distinguishing factor, and let the community sort it out to a degree.

 

I see people bitching and moaning about being shot on sight all the time. Hell, even I prepare myself for it in any situation. You're dumb not to, but it's up to the players to determine that based on the encounter. 

 

I've met some really cool people in the game already based on some what would otherwise be bloody shootouts. I've been in a few situations where both of us had our guns drawn on one another, barking orders, and decided not to fire. It does happen. I don't want that element of surprise to be taken away. I like the game the way it is.

 

Being a bandit is easy. It's easier when you find other bandits to team with. The same goes for Anti-KoSers. You need to have that moment to make a choice. 

Thank god there are still people like you seeking interaction... Cant tell a bandit without seeing them kill loot someone or having an interaction with them..

 

You sound the closest i have heard to a hero here mate beans i am sure you shot some people who werent a bandit but if interact and shoot based off feeling cant really ask for more than that......

[DMentMan 707]

you will notice when you see one, yeah you will..

[thelonewarrior 886]

Well who knows?

I get accused of being a bandit all the time just because I fire first when there's a non responsive group charging me with their guns drawn

We don't KOS or rob people, those guys are the bandits

We go after people who are murdering everything that moves or we talk to them and see if they try anything funny, while making sure we have guys in positions ready to drop them if they do

I don't care what they have or what they are wearing, if they are just looting and avoiding other people they obviously arnt looking for a fight so we leave them alone

It's the guys with a 4 man sniper team shooting into elektro that define them as bandits

[ttt2512 10]

You aren't going to see my snipers and won't even know they are there unless you engage me in combat. I will also attempt to make contact with someone to find out their intentions. Basically, if you get attacked by me or my team, it is because you were hostile and initiated combat. Protecting myself does not make me a bandit.

no,you can't say you are defending yourself by killing each other because you think they are a theat.And some bandit have honor but not all,Otherwise stop mixing KoS-er and bandit. Edited February 13, 2014 by ttt2512

[TokumeiSennin 34]

As bandit are not rank like in mod, i guess its person which killing for fun/get your stuff without frendly talk / negotiations(KOS).

A lot people abuse calling players "bandit". You don't give up while i warned you ? Bandit. He/se killed someone.. i didn't seen it, don't know reasons of fight but... its bandit.

Like Jaginun said, a lot people justify killing others when. True is in Day SA there no bandits. People bring that term from mod and basic on define on the mod. In mod you got bandit for inflicting damange. In DayZ SA a lot people have own interpretations of term "bandit". This topic proved it. Forum members posted how they interpretation term "bandit". Few things are same, few differents. As there no bandit rank and all have own interpretation, its so easy impute others about they are bandit and justify killing them.

Edited February 13, 2014 by TokumeiSennin

[ploulaf 89]

But that's my point.  People are labeling other people as 'bandits' in these videos where the person has done nothing to show them being a 'bandit'  They are simply saying they are and firing first.

I think in the mod a skin with your face wrapped in whool appears if you keep behaving like an asshole. Thus being called a bandit.

In SA this feature isn't implemented. But that doesn't really matters. Let's face it, pretty much everyone is an ass anyway.

Edited February 13, 2014 by ploulaf

[Gekkonidae 270]

Thank god there are still people like you seeking interaction... Cant tell a bandit without seeing them kill loot someone or having an interaction with them..

 

You sound the closest i have heard to a hero here mate beans i am sure you shot some people who werent a bandit but if interact and shoot based off feeling cant really ask for more than that......

 

Yep. It takes more balls to put yourself in that scenario than to just shoot, but I've come out of it unharmed more times than I've been harmed. I always approach saying the same shit every time "Look this doesn't have to end badly for anyone at all. Just chill and hear me out." Then go on with what I've got to say or propose. You'd be surprised at how many people will actually listen to you if you get the jump on them and explain yourself.

 

I've been both a bandit and a 'hero' or whatever you want to call it. If i'm rolling 'good guy' I never rob people, but propose a trade, tell them what I need and ask if they are willing to trade off. If things go well, you can escalate that into a 'let's team up' interaction. If they don't want to, no worries and I have respect for that. Wish them luck and be on your way. In the times I do get people to team up, it's weird because in my experiences, it's seemed automatic that you'll go to bat for that other person no matter what. I get that real sense of 'we've got each others backs, fuck everyone else'. It's quite nice when it works out, and no one can contend that 2 or more people together aren't stronger than just 1 person. It's just a fact: Teaming up buys you some security and you will live longer. Plus, like I said, you have the opportunity to meet some pretty cool people out there.

[CS14 133]

The simplest answer: Someone who doesn't play the way others want them to.

 

 

Too many people on these forums try to dictate how others should play and if it's not somewhat close to how they feel people should play, they are automatically branded a bandit.

[1S1K-Airborne 148]

Almost everyone in this game is a Bandit.

 

Without an Effective Humanity System there's no reason not to KOS.

 

It's pointless to ask why.

[Mdogg2005 447]

But that's my point.  People are labeling other people as 'bandits' in these videos where the person has done nothing to show them being a 'bandit'  They are simply saying they are and firing first.  

If they haven't seen the player do enough to accurately identify them as a bandit exhibiting bandit-like behaviors, then they are simply looking for a justification to their desire to kill them.  They are looking to make themselves not look like KOS assholes for their video / stream so they make up the excuse that the survivor they're stalking (with the full intent to kill ASAP) is a bandit to rationalize their kill.

[Mdogg2005 447]

Almost everyone in this game is a Bandit.

 

Without an Effective Humanity System there's no reason not to KOS.

 

It's pointless to ask why.

Wow color me surprised <sarcasm>.  You made an appearance here about your dumb, overwhelmingly negatively received idea in another thread.  Kudos though, this thread actually has relevance to yours.

[mgc 92]

As mentioned there is no way to tell potential friend or foe, appart from observing behaviour. If you rush in to Friend On Sight, you are a complete noob that hasnt understood dayz.

 

Thou shalt toil to uncover the gems hidden amongeth the pebbles, lest thou degradeth to a pebble thyself.

Edited February 13, 2014 by mgc

[Martmital 436]

No such thing as Hero's and Bandits...

[wartzilla 182]

An outdated term from the mod for 'player killer', caused by the application of the bandit skin whenever you killed a player that wasn't a bandit himself.

 

This is why it's so funny whenever some bad poster says 'real bandits don't KOS' or some dumb shit like that because killing on sight is what made you a bandit to begin with originally.