To those whining about post-processing and gamma:

[Grimey Rick 3417]

Turn off post-processing and crank your gamma until they're properly implemented. In the meantime, stop complaining how bad everyone is for not playing "properly". If it was the "proper" way to play, you wouldn't be able to edit either of these options.

[boneboys 7988]

Links To those whining about post-processing and gamma: ?

[wickedlikegames 2]

Yeah just thought the same, i have not seen anyone complaining about this :P

[Grimey Rick 3417]

Links To those whining about post-processing and gamma: ?

 

http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/172812-no-more-stuttering-thx-2-this/

 

Will add more when I'm done brushing my teeth.

 

More:

 

http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/172646-if-your-pps-turned-off-you-cant-be-much-of-a-man/

 

And other random posts made in random threads that I've read the last few days.

Edited February 10, 2014 by Grimey Rick

[CS14 133]

Have hardly seen anyone complaining about it. Congratulations, you provided one link that is more of a guide than the so-called "whining".

[SuPaFuNk 30]

Here is a link to a thread that was locked by a mod yesterday. This guy seems to think your not a man if you turn PP off.

 

http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/172646-if-your-pps-turned-off-you-cant-be-much-of-a-man/

 

Made me chuckle :lol:

[crazyandlazy 376]

Links To those whining about post-processing and gamma: ?

 

Actually people jumped at me because I posted a screencap on here that had gamma turned up a bit. They were all so vocal that I was actually quite surprised about the whole thing.

[Caboose187 (DayZ) 3036]

They just need to change how the servers work. 

 

Hardcore = no PP or gamma adjustments available

Normal = PP = low gamma = no adjustments

Easy mode = PP off Gamma = cranked( for pussies only)

Edited February 10, 2014 by Caboose187

[mirth 23]

I loath these types of threads please dont feed the fire, just play and have fun.

[Rudette 435]

I kind of agree with Rick.

I frown on it, but, gamma is pretty necessary if you're playing at night. There are people who will grab at whatever option it takes to win, and you'll die as a result if you don't even the playing field.

Until it's fixed? Better not to put yourself at risk. 

[St. Jimmy 1631]

I wonder why people even use gamma cheat when changing the cloud settings is better way... No need for gamma tuning when I can see clearly because of changing cloud settings.

[BadAsh (DayZ) 1513]

Turn off post-processing and crank your gamma until they're properly implemented. In the meantime, stop complaining how bad everyone is for not playing "properly". If it was the "proper" way to play, you wouldn't be able to edit either of these options.

 

Gotta love these whine threads by the exploiters. I will not refrain from calling gamma exploit or PP-off exploits, because that is what they are (that "playing the game properly" thing is your own strawman).

 

"An exploit, in video games, is the use of bug or glitches, rates, hit boxes, or speed, etcd. by a player to their advantage in a manner not intended by the game's designers."

 

 

By all means go ahead and exploit, just don't pretend this is an intended game feature or that other players who doesn't use it won't look down on the players who does.

Edited February 10, 2014 by BadAsh

[louist 163]

I wonder why people even use gamma cheat when changing the cloud settings is better way... No need for gamma tuning when I can see clearly because of changing cloud settings.

Calling it a cheat (or an exploit, as many others have) doesn't make it one. It's a setting provided to the player. Use it or don't use it, but recognize it for what it is: a legitimate part of the game.

[BadAsh (DayZ) 1513]

Calling it a cheat (or an exploit, as many others have) doesn't make it one. It's a setting provided to the player. Use it or don't use it, but recognize it for what it is: a legitimate part of the game.

 

The difference between a cheat and an exploit is that the latter is abusing something that was already in the game. So yes it is a part of the game, but not a legitimate part of it.

Edited February 10, 2014 by BadAsh

[louist 163]

Gotta love these whine threads by the exploiters. I will not refrain from calling gamma exploit or PP-off exploits, because that is what they are (that "playing the game properly" thing is your own strawman).

By all means go ahead and exploit, just don't pretend this is an intended game feature or that other players who doesn't use it won't look down on the players who does.

At what point have the devs ever said it was an exploit or an unintended feature? It had been part of the mod since it's inception, and part of the Arma series before that. It is a known and accepted part of the game.

Disagreeing with people who use it I can understand. But calling it an exploit? That's the kind of truth-molesting Fox News has built an empire on.

[louist 163]

The difference between a cheat and an exploit is that the latter is abusing something that was already in the game. So yes it is a part of the game, but not a legitimate part of it.

How is it not a legitimate part of the game? The devs knew what it would do, and included it. It was intentional; they were not unaware, and they have made no mention of changing it. That sounds like legitimacy to me.

[wasnu 301]

They just need to change how the servers work. 

 

Hardcore = no PP or gamma adjustments available

Normal = PP = low gamma = no adjustments

Easy mode = PP off Gamma = cranked( for pussies only)

 

No no, the devs have to fix, that your flashlight dont stop at a walls and lights up all the area equal if you are in an house or outside.

 

until this is done, you can pin an sign on your char..HIT ME HERE

 

I like it, to go with my flashlight over the map, but only on servers on which i am alone ;)

[bad_mojo (DayZ) 1204]

I dislike this mentality that we can't look down on or discourage certain things because they aren't completely protected against.

 

Shall we all download game hacks because they aren't currently being detected? Might not be the same thing, but it's the same logic.

[twizzm 34]

It does give anyone an advantage but it is something ANYONE can use. Evening the score is all you can do as I don't see this as something on their radar anytime soon.

And bad_mojo. There's a fairly big line between everyone tweaking brightness and outright downloading hacks. Just because you twist words around and generalize something doesn't mean theirs logic.

People are gonna change their gamma. People are gonna go into the building doors. People are gonna lean into walls to look.

Only thing you can do it join em or wait and keep playing regular. One day the "honest" players will have the edge when everything is balanced and fixed, hackers and glitchers always suck at games when their trick bag runs out. Then they move onto the next.

[Grimey Rick 3417]

It does give anyone an advantage but it is something ANYONE can use. Evening the score is all you can do as I don't see this as something on their radar anytime soon.

And bad_mojo. There's a fairly big line between everyone tweaking brightness and outright downloading hacks. Just because you twist words around and generalize something doesn't mean theirs logic.

People are gonna change their gamma. People are gonna go into the building doors. People are gonna lean into walls to look.

Only thing you can do it join em or wait and keep playing regular. One day the "honest" players will have the edge when everything is balanced and fixed, hackers and glitchers always suck at games when their trick bag runs out. Then they move onto the next.

 

This.

 

I'm not blindly running around like a moving target because of my "morals". It's a fucking video game. If someone is going to use an implemented in-game option to give them an edge, you can be fucking sure I will too. I don't cheat. I don't use scripts. I play the game legitimately as many people on these forums I've played with will tell you. What's this? They also implemented a way to disable post-processing effects in the video options menu, too? Sweet, off that goes too.

 

No point in gimping yourself from the start. If they weren't intended to be changed, they wouldn't be in the video options menu. Anyone arguing this is dumb.

[UbuntuFoo 40]

The difference between a cheat and an exploit is that the latter is abusing something that was already in the game. So yes it is a part of the game, but not a legitimate part of it.

 

We could go down the list of configurations and argue about how each is unfair. Gee whiz let me make a thread on resolution settings and why everyone should play on the game default reso.

 

That's the vibe I get from your posts, BadAsh.

 

I for one cant see loot, period, on night time servers without tweaking my configs. I choose not to be shot in the back by a player with good visibility while I spend 30 seconds determining if the tuna can im standing on is lootable, bugged, or just a shadow.

 

If you get a high from doing everything the hard way, good for you. We aren't all that extreme.

[bad_mojo (DayZ) 1204]

And bad_mojo. There's a fairly big line between everyone tweaking brightness and outright downloading hacks. Just because you twist words around and generalize something doesn't mean theirs logic.

 

No words were twisted or generalizations made in my previous post. I clearly stated "might not be the same thing" about comparing hacking with gamma cranking. I only used hacking as an example because we know that while it might not always be protected against, it's not something we encourage others to do.

 

It should be the same way with gamma cranking and disabling post processing, but for some reason people want to make excuses and tolerate it. Even worse, we have people like the OP who actively defend its usage. I feel like it's a horrible attitude to have towards gaming, and I felt like voicing my disapproval of that mentality.

 

If you're gonna accuse me of twisting words and generalizing, please bring more to the discussion than just "it's not the same as hacking". My post had nothing to do with gamma tweaking being the same as hacking.

[Grimey Rick 3417]

No words were twisted or generalizations made in my previous post. I clearly stated "might not be the same thing" about comparing hacking with gamma cranking. I only used hacking as an example because we know that while it might not always be protected against, it's not something we encourage others to do.

 

It should be the same way with gamma cranking and disabling post processing, but for some reason people want to make excuses and tolerate it. Even worse, we have people like the OP who actively defend its usage. I feel like it's a horrible attitude to have towards gaming, and I felt like voicing my disapproval of that mentality.

 

If you're gonna accuse me of twisting words and generalizing, please bring more to the discussion than just "it's not the same as hacking". My post had nothing to do with gamma tweaking being the same as hacking.

 

Can you not read? I refuse to believe that so many people on these forums are so ignorant. Read my post again.

 

Why in the actual fuck would I play at a disadvantage to so many other players when I have a legal means to defend myself by using the same tactics myself? Like really, read what I am saying. I am not defending exploiting; it's not an exploit. It's a video option in a game that can be enabled or disabled. Gamma can be raised or lowered.

 

Don't blame me or anyone else who brings this issue up for the current state of the game. I am merely shining a little light on the subject that a lot of you people are deeming such a horrid chain of events. You'd have to be a complete moron to continue playing "legitimately" (a very subjective term, mind you) when nine out of ten players aren't. You play your way, I'll play mine, but don't tell me I'm a fucking cheater/exploiter.

 

If you want to blame someone, petition the developers to fix it.

 

EDIT: I've seen no information posted where a developer has claimed this to be an exploit. If that is the case, and they really feel that way, then they should implement it in such a way that it can't be modified with an in-game slider or option menu.

 

Period.

Edited February 11, 2014 by Grimey Rick

[bad_mojo (DayZ) 1204]

I don't need to keep reading your posts to know I completely disagree with not only your opinions on this, but also your attitude towards these options and their usage.

 

Also, I didn't call you a cheater.

[Grimey Rick 3417]

I don't need to keep reading your posts to know I completely disagree with not only your opinions on this, but also your attitude towards these options and their usage.

 

Also, I didn't call you a cheater.

 

Okay, have fun getting sniped in the pitch black, sir. Also, when you shoot a guy in the chest only to have him spin around and blow your face off with no penalty to initially being shot, I hope you feel better about your high video game morals. I'll play the game the way you guys want everyone else to play the game when it's properly implemented. If it is ever even implemented, as the DayZ MOD still allows players to change their gamma.