Bre3ze 13 Posted February 2, 2014 I recently saw a video ( not gonna say who posted ), of somone with a low end pc removing the grass for fps increase, Is this illegal? will you get a ban/kicked. I'm asking not because i want to see everyone better, but more for performance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gerbilschooler 229 Posted February 2, 2014 Any option that you can utilize with your hardware or software is not "illegal" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djporternz 644 Posted February 2, 2014 (edited) If he altered any of the .pbo files (and I can't think of any other way to do this), then yes, it is an exploit that BE will detect. Remember, BE may not immediately ban you for something like this, but in the next week you can't play DayZ... well... Just don't do it! As an aside, in ArmA II and III removing the grass only had a minimal effect on FPS. You're better off using this post: http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/154330-possible-fps-enhancer/. At least all those methods are legitimate. EDIT: I just took a look at the video you hinted at, and it was made well before BE was activated in DayZ. I can guarantee that ATM this will be detected by BE as a cheat. You may not get a Global Ban for deleting the specified file, but you also won't be able to join any BE protected server. Use at your own risk. Edited February 2, 2014 by DJPorterNZ 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
illville502 44 Posted February 2, 2014 I mean it isn't like Dean Hall is going to show up with a swat team to take you out for doing it. I highly recommend it & it is a plus it makes it easier to see people. :) 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djporternz 644 Posted February 2, 2014 Any option that you can utilize with your hardware or software is not "illegal"Wrong in so many ways! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeymp 27 Posted February 2, 2014 lol it's not illegal you can turn off shadows too which will save wayy more FPS and also helps see people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beck (DayZ) 1768 Posted February 2, 2014 (edited) If he altered any of the .pbo files (and I can't think of any other way to do this), then yes, it is an exploit that BE will detect. Remember, BE may not immediately ban you for something like this, but in the next week you can't play DayZ... well....You don't need to edit the PBO file to change view distance, detail, or grass. Also, BE hasn't been set to detect game file integrity yet, otherwise it would kick you automatically like it did in the rest of the Arma series. The only reason why battleye will ban you is if you are running scripts or hacking in some sort of way. Editing your game files will not get you banned. Edited February 2, 2014 by Beck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djporternz 644 Posted February 2, 2014 You don't need to edit the PBO file to change view distance, detail, or grass. Also, BE hasn't been set to detect PBO integrity yet, otherwise it would kick you automatically like it did in the rest of the Arma series. The only reason why battleye will ban you is if you are running scripts or hacking in some sort of way. Editing your PBO files will not get you banned.Check again, Sir! People are being regularly kicked from servers by BE for file integrity errors, and as I said in my post this may not get you a ban, but you also won't be able to play on a BE protected server. But this doesn't mean that you won't get a Global Ban in the future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
illville502 44 Posted February 2, 2014 (edited) lol it's not illegal you can turn off shadows too which will save wayy more FPS and also helps see people.And clouds! Don't forget about losing those clouds! Only time they are helpfully is on night time servers with your gamma & brightness all the way up. Please hurry with night vision googles Dean! Edited February 2, 2014 by illville502 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beck (DayZ) 1768 Posted February 2, 2014 Check again, Sir! People are being regularly kicked from servers by BE for file integrity errors, and as I said in my post this may not get you a ban, but you also won't be able to play on a BE protected server. But this doesn't mean that you won't get a Global Ban in the future.Are you playing on the experimental servers because I have never seen anyone get kicked for file check. Plus people are currently abusing plenty of file dragging and dropping loopholes. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djporternz 644 Posted February 2, 2014 (edited) Are you playing on the experimental servers because I have never seen anyone get kicked for file check. Plus people are currently abusing plenty of file dragging and dropping loopholes.I am presently playing on the Exp servers, but BE has been activated on the current Stable builds. I think that people aren't actually using the .pbo exploits as much as it would appear they are. There are other hacks out there that have similar functionality, but for the most part a lot of the glitches we are seeing in game are more due to the vaguaries of the internet and the fact that DayZ still has a lot of holes in the code. I also may not be seeing much of this since I've switched to the Hardcore servers almost exclusively, and they attract a different class of player than the Regular servers (No disrespect intended to anyone.). Edited February 2, 2014 by DJPorterNZ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
enforcer1975 1111 Posted February 2, 2014 (edited) lol it's not illegal you can turn off shadows too which will save wayy more FPS and also helps see people. This and that are completely different. One is a game setting the other one is a forced server setting and relevenant for gameplay. I bet they will also remove the ability to completely disable settings to avoid exploits like turning of shadows with the bold statement of needing more fps while the hardware could handle it. I knew a player who turned off shadows although he had better hardware than me... Edited February 2, 2014 by Enforcer 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeymp 27 Posted February 2, 2014 This and that are completely different. One is a game setting the other one is a forced server setting and relevenant for gameplay. I bet they will also remove the ability to completely disable settings to avoid exploits like turning of shadows with the bold statement of needing more fps while the hardware could handle it. I knew a player who turned off shadows although he had better hardware than me...ya i think you should at least have to have low shadows and low grass on. shouldn't have disable option. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raezion420 97 Posted February 2, 2014 This and that are completely different. One is a game setting the other one is a forced server setting and relevenant for gameplay. I bet they will also remove the ability to completely disable settings to avoid exploits like turning of shadows with the bold statement of needing more fps while the hardware could handle it. I knew a player who turned off shadows although he had better hardware than me...lol why? wouldn't turning off shadows put you at a disadvantage? I've seen people before LOS because of shadows.. Now turning off grass I agree shouldn't be able to be turned off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sonic-NKT 38 Posted February 2, 2014 same goes for post processing and blurry vision if hurt...i hope they add restrictions in the future so you cant join hardcore servers for example if you have played with your settings to get an advantage. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DarkwaveDomina 1099 Posted February 2, 2014 Surprisingly grass actually seems to be one of the less taxing parts of the game, I would recommend an upgrade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dsi24 227 Posted February 2, 2014 Obviously grass and shadows should be required to be on a minimum level. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OrLoK 16185 Posted February 2, 2014 Hello There We very much frown on editing of pbo files btw. Rgds LoK 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frosti 2165 Posted February 2, 2014 I recently saw a video ( not gonna say who posted ), of somone with a low end pc removing the grass for fps increase, Is this illegal? will you get a ban/kicked. I'm asking not because i want to see everyone better, but more for performance. The only way he removed grass that I know is by removing .pbo file but you should be kicked for that by Battleye. And second method on removing grass is using some kind of 'fps booster* program, but when battleye will catch you on that you gonna get banned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nomadyow 4 Posted February 2, 2014 This was in the last stable patch: "Security: Signature verification against PBOs" http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/165709-rolling-changelog-stable-branch-032114557/ Seems to me that PBOs are checked now and violators will be kicked at the very least. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gerandar 212 Posted February 2, 2014 If he altered any of the .pbo files (and I can't think of any other way to do this), then yes, it is an exploit that BE will detect. Remember, BE may not immediately ban you for something like this, but in the next week you can't play DayZ... well... Just don't do it! As an aside, in ArmA II and III removing the grass only had a minimal effect on FPS. You're better off using this post: http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/154330-possible-fps-enhancer/. At least all those methods are legitimate. EDIT: I just took a look at the video you hinted at, and it was made well before BE was activated in DayZ. I can guarantee that ATM this will be detected by BE as a cheat. You may not get a Global Ban for deleting the specified file, but you also won't be able to join any BE protected server. Use at your own risk. I just tested deleting all object files, BE didnt give a damn that I could see through walls. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyline-gtr 130 Posted February 3, 2014 Obviously grass and shadows should be required to be on a minimum level. I can understand grass, but why shadows ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fitzee 248 Posted February 3, 2014 I can understand grass, but why shadows ? Hi. Generally speaking everything you turn off makes players easier to spot. Picture your adversary lying in a shaded treeline, he's somewhat difficult to spot. Now turn the shadows off and he is lit up, and considerably easier to see. Regards. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wud 143 Posted February 3, 2014 trueexcept for the one thing that other players will not cast shadows anymore..what is a bad thingexample:you can make out people on high porsitions because you see their shadownot a big thing but .. yeah helped me sometimes to avoid getting killed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grimey Rick 3417 Posted February 3, 2014 You could always buy a new video card. I happen to be selling two mint EVGA GTX 580s. :3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites