I think every bad action except hacking is justified in this game

[crazyandlazy 376]

This includes,

 

[a]killing new spawn - [i was held up a dude of 5 guys who handcuffed and killed me execution style].

KoS - target pratice

[c]Bunny hopping - gear up fast easy mode

[d]glitching

[e]combat logging - funny moments

 

etc etc

 

To me, alphas been a learning experience. Let's face it you have all done one or two of the above. It's a game after all and it's all about entertainment. Agree?

[PhillyT 554]

I have done all of those, you are right!

[Element47 2480]

gear up fast easy mode refers to server hopping i presume, which describes frequent changing of the server to clear the same loot spot on different servers?

 

 

bunny hopping is a term describing constant jumping by a player, who thus wants to be more difficult to hit.

[crazykage 1063]

No op. I haven't once combat logged. Not even while trying to investigate a mysterious radio broadcast in elektro (just now).

So no. NOT all of us are on your pathetic level of exploit abuse. SOME of us can play a game fairly and with a sense of integrity.

I DID server hop quite a bit in the beginning, but only so I could get a sense of the game and where loot spawned, and with what frequency. Never once did I do it to gear up and hunt bambis, or anyone for that matter. All of the characters I hopped with ended up dying when I tested walls on multi floor buildings for clipping issues.

So NO. I am NOT on the same level as you.

Im not JUDGING you per se, but just asking you to not bring me down to your level based on some wild assumption that just because YOU don't play with integrity, that everyone else doesn't as well.

[PhillyT 554]

"Pathetic level of exploit abuse"

 

That sounds like judging actually.

[over9000nukez 199]

do you think ghosting is ok if you think combat logging and Kos are ok in some sort of combination - ghosting

[DevilDog (DayZ) 455]

Doing bad things in the game is ok.

 

Exploiting game mechanics is not ok.

[crazykage 1063]

"Pathetic level of exploit abuse"

 

That sounds like judging actually.

Its my opinion. How I feel about it. "I" think it IS pathetic. "I" have a higher standard. But that is MY standard, and I do not expect or require you to adhere to it.

And if you think I AM being judgmental, then maybe you should take a look at yourself. Afterall, you would have no need to feel judged if you had done nothing questionable...

[PhillyT 554]

I combat logged once.  I just find you and your high horse entertaining.

[DropBearChick 1216]

Use an m4 is not allowed

Using disinfectant as poison is not allowed

Using handcuffs is not allowed

Eating and drinking is not allowed

Going inside builfings is not allowed

Playing as a male is not allowed

Left clicking is not allowed

Aggroing zombies is not allowed

Crafting is not allowed

[crazyandlazy 376]

 

I DID server hop quite a bit in the beginning, but only so I could get a sense of the game and where loot spawned, and with what frequency. Never once did I do it to gear up and hunt bambis, or anyone for that matter. All of the characters I hopped with ended up dying when I tested walls on multi floor buildings for clipping issues.
 

 

so you did server hop mmh? 

 

btw I don't why you are acting all so superior. I never said I applaud those actions and I never said I did those repeatedly like a habit. Calm the heck down. We paid $30 for entertainment and it is just that. Entertainment.

 

I am just saying that we should not put down people just because they have done something bad. Like, getting axed after helping and trusting a new spawn. Don't tell me about morals or holier than thou crap. Seriously. Once there was this spawn I helped and he axed me to death. He started giggling like a little girl. It was so funny I wasn't even mad. It's stuff like this that makes this game worth a hell of a lot more than 30 bucks.

 

[crazykage 1063]

I combat logged once.  I just find you and your high horse entertaining.

One time? well it is what it is. Nobody is perfect. I don't claim be. Im not saying I am a better human being than you because I play a fukin VIDEO GAME with integrity. Im simply saying that cheating, in any form, be it an exploit, or a game hack, is pathetic. Its not a personal attack on you.

As for your opinion of me and my high horse? I care. really, I do....

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[crazykage 1063]

so you did server hop mmh? 

 

btw I don't why you are acting all so superior. I never said I applaud those actions and I never said I did those repeatedly like a habit. Calm the heck down. We paid $30 for entertainment and it is just that. Entertainment.

 

I am just saying that we should not put down people just because they have done something bad. Like, getting axed after helping and trusting a new spawn. Don't tell me about morals or holier than thou crap. Seriously. Once there was this spawn I helped and he axed me to death. He started giggling like a little girl. It was so funny I wasn't even mad. It's stuff like this that makes this game worth a hell of a lot more than 30 bucks.

I love it when exploiters and cheaters try to justify their shit. I BELIEVE you op, when you say you don't think you did anything wrong. I just don't agree.

YEAH. I hopped in the beginning, to learn about the game. See new buildings, new town layouts, find buggy places that I want to avoid (like castles, where all the loot spawns on the ceilings, and is unreachable). At no time did I do it to "gear up fast easy mode", so that I could gain an advantage over other players.

I get it. You like the game. Its fun. Its entertainment. And you think cheating to heighten YOUR entertainment value while taking it away from others is ok.

Its totally cool op. Your opinion. Your entitled to it. I just thing your fucking wrong, and that abusing an exploit is not ok. If you don't LIKE that I don't like your world view, you can kindly....nope. I wont say it. Ill get admin kicked for another day.

[broguenz 333]

I'm always honest on the Internet

[crazyandlazy 376]

I love it when exploiters and cheaters try to justify their shit. I BELIEVE you op, when you say you don't think you did anything wrong. I just don't agree.

YEAH. I hopped in the beginning, to learn about the game. See new buildings, new town layouts, find buggy places that I want to avoid (like castles, where all the loot spawns on the ceilings, and is unreachable). At no time did I do it to "gear up fast easy mode", so that I could gain an advantage over other players.

I get it. You like the game. Its fun. Its entertainment. And you think cheating to heighten YOUR entertainment value while taking it away from others is ok.

Its totally cool op. Your opinion. Your entitled to it. I just thing your fucking wrong, and that abusing an exploit is not ok. If you don't LIKE that I don't like your world view, you can kindly....nope. I wont say it. Ill get admin kicked for another day.

 

Dude. Take deep breaths. Please. For your sake.

 

Nobody is bashing you but yourself. 

 

To be on point. I am not applauding anything. My thinking is that if there are a lot cheat/glitch exploiters it actually helps the game cause more people will report and then we won't have it anymore quick patches whereas, let's say only one guy finds/use the exploit and "he and only he alone" does it cause no other person is morally coruppt[lololol yeah right] as him. You get my point bud?

[crazykage 1063]

Dude. Take deep breaths. Please. For your sake.

 

Nobody is bashing you but yourself. 

 

To be on point. I am not applauding anything. My thinking is that if there are a lot cheat/glitch exploiters it actually helps the game cause more people will report and then we won't have it anymore quick patches whereas, let's say only one guy finds/use the exploit and "he and only he alone" does it cause no other person is morally coruppt[lololol yeah right] as him. You get my point bud?

I am absolutely totally calm dude. Not even remotely angry. Im not about to stress over cheaters. Im simply stating my viewpoint in no uncertain terms. That's all.

[over9000nukez 199]

ya, but we didn't pay 30$ for YOU to entertain YOURSELF by exploiting the game and ruining it for the rest of the community, for every think on that list I see theres a consequence usually,

1:killing new spawns: probably first time playing, traumatize them, make them never trust people again, always scared of people, even people who try to help them
2:KoS this is a game of survival, not fucking "give nobody a chance to do anything" at least talk to the dude if your going to kill him, maybe you'll have a change of heart if you know they have a voice.

3:"bunny hopping" or server hopping, I only do this is something is completely looted, I don't consider this being an asshole, its only fair, I'm not waiting 4 hours for a server restart.

4:glitching: by this do you mean shooting someone through a wall or something? because that's just not being fair, again exploitation, would you enjoy getting the game, then having some immature kid shoot you through a wall, its basically hacking, your BASICLY invisible if you think about it. hacking if put into like any other context "i shoot through walls" sounds hacky, but "I shoot through walls because I can exploit" isn't?

5:combat logging: ok so your up for doing all this shit to people what do you do when your backed into a corner? when YOUR the one shot at? log. next patch, or next patch after this it apparently is going to be fixed, so get it all done while you can, you'll soon be dyeing every time your in a sticky situation.

I suggest you play the game fair, think of others at least a little bit, the golden rule in life is , don't do something to someone what you wouldn't like done to yourself.
and here's the thing, you say you payed 30 $ for entertainment, we did too, and entertainment is having a fair game, winning, and losing both being possibilities.

 

[BuddyRP 41]

This includes,

 

[a]killing new spawn - [i was held up a dude of 5 guys who handcuffed and killed me execution style].

KoS - target pratice

[c]Bunny hopping - gear up fast easy mode

[d]glitching

[e]combat logging - funny moments

 

etc etc

 

To me, alphas been a learning experience. Let's face it you have all done one or two of the above. It's a game after all and it's all about entertainment. Agree?

 

[a] pretty pointless and a low blow if you ask me. no gain from it and them not being able to fight back makes it no challenge on your part

 

about the only "bad action" thing on this list that is actually a part of the game and many people do it

 

[c] what the hell is the point of even playing the game if you do that? server hop, gear up kill people playing the game properly? not to mention that when you do this, you are essentially robbing those who actually take the time and effort to walk to high valued loot spawns to scavenge. exactly how fair and justifiable is that for them?

 

[d] taking advantage of bugs in a game, again what is the point of that? once again youre just ruining the experience for not only yourself, but for the poor s.o.b. that you get the drop on only because you were hidden glitched inside a wall of something pathetic like that.

 

[e] probably one of the main focuses that devs have on their plate right now. it makes you nothing more than a coward if another player has you pinned / gets the drop on you and you just decide to quick escape / alt+f4 to save your skin. honestly where's the skill in that? its a part of the game to be a fresh spawn, scavenge, slay, survive and eventually you die. the devs are doing everything in their power to make this game and its features as realistic as they can. tell me exactly how you plan to alt+f4 away from someone who pulls a gun on you in real life? YOU DONT! YOU DEFEND YOURSELF WITH YOUR LIFE. as you should do in dayz as well.

 

dont use "oh it's only alpha we can do what we want" as an excuse to read between the lines and destroy the purpose of what this game is meant to be. dont wanna do things right? fine just uninstall, dont be selfish ruin the game for those around you who want to play fair and enjoy themselves.

[crazyandlazy 376]

ya, but we didn't pay 30$ for YOU to entertain YOURSELF by exploiting the game and ruining it for the rest of the community, for every think on that list I see theres a consequence usually,

1:killing new spawns: probably first time playing, traumatize them, make them never trust people again, always scared of people, even people who try to help them

2:KoS this is a game of survival, not fucking "give nobody a chance to do anything" at least talk to the dude if your going to kill him, maybe you'll have a change of heart if you know they have a voice.

3:"bunny hopping" or server hopping, I only do this is something is completely looted, I don't consider this being an asshole, its only fair, I'm not waiting 4 hours for a server restart.

4:glitching: by this do you mean shooting someone through a wall or something? because that's just not being fair, again exploitation, would you enjoy getting the game, then having some immature kid shoot you through a wall, its basically hacking, your BASICLY invisible if you think about it. hacking if put into like any other context "i shoot through walls" sounds hacky, but "I shoot through walls because I can exploit" isn't?

5:combat logging: ok so your up for doing all this shit to people what do you do when your backed into a corner? when YOUR the one shot at? log. next patch, or next patch after this it apparently is going to be fixed, so get it all done while you can, you'll soon be dyeing every time your in a sticky situation.

I suggest you play the game fair, think of others at least a little bit, the golden rule in life is , don't do something to someone what you wouldn't like done to yourself.

and here's the thing, you say you payed 30 $ for entertainment, we did too, and entertainment is having a fair game, winning, and losing both being possibilities.

 

1. Um actually when I first started I got killed a ton along the east coast. It helped me learn how to scout and use peak excessively, Now that I am somewhat average, I sometimes gun down spawn campers.[this is getting not as needed now since there are more spawn points like before]. I don't think anyone is going to be so traumatize that they won't do any  interactions lol. 

 

2. No one has to obey any rules. That is the point of the game. 

 

3. To be correct, you really don't need to wait 4 hours, there are a lot of loot as is if you know where to hit. No need for hopping at all. 

 

4. Hacking is doing something totally different onto the game. Glitching is exploiting a weakness. If exploits are hush hush and only one person/groupd knows it then it's not fair and probably won't get patched.The more the exploits, the more the complaining. meaning the faster we get that fixed.

 

5. I find it funny when people combat log when they see me. Makes me feel like rambo or something lol. I'll admit have done this only once though cause I ran into server hoppers when I first started the game. Now I know how to tackle that problem.

 

You can't tell anyone to do anything. If there's a crutch people are smart and will use it. 

[WierdBeard 18]

Mmmm.  The butthurt in this thread is delicious.  It's always fun to see how a statement of preferred play style will drag every cry baby out of the woodwork.  I doff my hat to the OP.

Edited January 27, 2014 by WierdBeard

[Demoth 366]

There is a level of exploiting that I do to keep pace with the level of broken we have to deal with. I gamma glitch because let's face it, if you don't you're 1 kilometer sniped in the face. I don't care if someone thinks it's disgraceful to do anymore because trying to play honorable on a night server means you spend the whole time dead.

I don't care about server hoppers, as they're easy to kill with a stock Mosin or shotgun.

Combat loggers can eat shit. They don't ruin my life, but they usually then ghost to kill you because getting killed in a video game is obviously too scary and too much of an ego hit to stand.

Hackers? Well, we all hate them.

Edit: fucking phone that insists on auto correcting "Mosin" to 90 other words.

Edited January 27, 2014 by Demoth

[PhillyT 554]

A: I killed three new spawn when they were trying to punch me in the face.

B:  I KOS when I am afraid the other heavily armed guy is not moving in a friendly manner.  I rarely do it, but I do when I am nervous or cornered.

C:  If you mean server jumping, yes.  I don't exploit it, but if I am logging on, I will go get what gear there is, play in that area for a while and log off.  I rarely have time to play more than 45 minutes at a time lately.  I will then log in later that night and do it again.  I am currently in Zelenegorsk and hit Green Mountain and the Jail and Barracks in town each time I log in.

D:  I don't know what glitching is exactly.  I have never intentionally exploited the game.

E:  I combat logged when I was surrounded by 5 armed players.  They started trying to handcuff me and I just couldn't bear the thought of trying to rehear so soon after my character had been wiped.  I was a new player and had only just gotten equipped.

 

We can't all be paragons apparently.

[frosti 2165]

Combat logging should not be part of game and should be dealt with mmorpg style, 30-60 sec log out timer and spawned dummy if log out timer is dodged.

 

Server hopping also should not be part of game, character should be server bound.

[PhillyT 554]

I want to see server bound characters too.  I think that would solve a lot of issues, although maybe a hub setup where the same character can be used across a handful of servers (to avoid not being able to play due to servers being full).

[jasher11 67]

Ummmmmm.....

Combat logging I don't like but it's fine if some people do it for now. If you care about your gear that much...

Glitching, what do you mean by that? Like hiding in a wall and scaring the crap outta someone? Sometimes it's fun other times it is a bit far

Server hopping, go for it, can gear up in 2 hrs on the same server but if you want to do it in 10mins your loss

KoS not my problem should be allowed it is a core mechanic

Killing new spawns, mean but not game breaking

One you didn't mention ghosting: too far, if you ghost I don't think you should be playing this game

Script kiddies/hackers I haven't run into any so far (touch wood) but that is unacceptable IMO

What you were saying about private hives, I want 2 main hives (hardcore/regular) and a few

Private hives for messing around on. Because private hives mean it is difficult to be a medic

Edited January 27, 2014 by jasher