Third person view removal from SA discussion

[Lemonater47 11]

Improve first person first. I see some settings like mouse acceleration the ability to turn it on or off. But you click on it and nothing happens. Motion blur has to go too. Motion blur is only good at higher framerates. At lower framerates you get natural motion blur. Having artificial motion blur over actual motion blur which is what happens at 30FPS is just horrible.

[Guest]

First person SUCKS in this game. Especially people with lower than 60FPS.

Its so floaty, mouse acceleration, motion blur. It all makes first person Un-appealing.

 

 

You can turn off all those things , atleast get some experience with first person before you complain about it.

[Frell 80]

First person SUCKS in this game. Especially people with lower than 60FPS.

Its so floaty, mouse acceleration, motion blur. It all makes first person Un-appealing.

Thats why they...

 

remove it

 

let everyone complain

 

attempt to fix it

 

everyones happy and more immersion

Edited December 29, 2013 by Frell

[The_Man 393]

Those who don't want third person are opening pandora's box. I remember being forced to not play in third person back in a few Operation Flashpoint and ARMA squads. Terrible. This game was made to have third person. If someone gets the upper hand on me because of third person then shame on me. You know it is there. Be aware. 

[Diggydug (DayZ) 331]

Forcing literally hundreds of thousands of players to play what you deem is the "right way" to make it a better experience could not possibly go over well.

 

Wouldn't you rather playing on a server with people who agree first person is better than reading a forum full of, "What the fuck rocket?!" "What happened to third person???". To be blunt, this simply isn't going to happen. If Rocket wanted it to be first person only, it would be. Even in his streams he used third person.

[AP_Norris 1018]

I only use first person now, so I'm hoping for the first person servers.

Who will join me?

[execpro22 128]

 

 

 

 

I agree, removing it early on will cause less of a backlash. It just doesn't fit.

 

 

 

 

Splitting everyone up waters down the player base. Force everyone into first person and its better.

 

 

 

Yes let's FORCE everyone to play the playstyle you want to......

 

 

Thats what DAYZ is all about right? Forcing everyone to play a certain way.....

[marcus.k.karlsson@gmail.com 13]

Think Rocket mentioned he wanted to do a "hardcore" hive where only first person mode would be allowed, among other things. I hope that catches on.

[Guest]

 

 

 

 

 

Splitting everyone up waters down the player base. Force everyone into first person and its better.

 

Then, in that case, why don't we just leave it like it is? not forcing anyone into 3rd or 1st POV.

Just because you enjoy 1st person only doesn't mean everyone else does.

[Diggydug (DayZ) 331]

I only use first person now, so I'm hoping for the first person servers.

Who will join me?

 

While I won't handicap myself by using first person currently, I do look forward to the servers that only have first person. 

[gibonez 3633]

Forcing literally hundreds of thousands of players to play what you deem is the "right way" to make it a better experience could not possibly go over well.

 

 

This is why the game is in alpha to test it out.

 

They at the very least need to explore the possibility or removing tpv outright and what better time to test it out than now early in its life.

 

The mere fact that there are so many proponents to the removal of tpv raises questions questions that need to be answered.

[wepztah 5]

I like 3rd person more , better view of the game and the fact that i can see my character makes me wanna improve it more for the looks. But in combat i prefer firstperson. I see this game as a survival game and not a fps game. Keep them both! 

[Mays (DayZ) 154]

First person seems laggier for me.

[Frell 80]

Forcing literally hundreds of thousands of players to play what you deem is the "right way" to make it a better experience could not possibly go over well.

 

Wouldn't you rather playing on a server with people who agree first person is better than reading a forum full of, "What the fuck rocket?!" "What happened to third person???". To be blunt, this simply isn't going to happen. If Rocket wanted it to be first person only, it would be. Even in his streams he used third person.

Ok then people should stop wanting forced direct chat mic detection and they can add a suicide button or buddy system

 

If we're going to have casual features why stop at 3rd person?

Edited December 29, 2013 by Frell

[preacherlr 614]

Rocket stated a while ago the only reason we have 3RD is because real life eyesight is like 180 degrees, which you can't archieve in a firstperson game (unless you use three screens lol)

I agree the game would be far more interesting with firstperson though, but you can't hate the game for having thirdperson. I lost the post Rocket made at that time, but it was very clear why we have thirdperson, he had many valid points in there.

This was said in one of the first dev blogs, many moons ago.

[The_Man 393]

Ok then people should stop wanting forced direct chat mic detection and they can add a suicide button or buddy system

 

Third person is a little more fundamental to the game than you think. Have you even played any of the older games? 

[AP_Norris 1018]

Forcing literally hundreds of thousands of players to play what you deem is the "right way" to make it a better experience could not possibly go over well.

 

Wouldn't you rather playing on a server with people who agree first person is better than reading a forum full of, "What the fuck rocket?!" "What happened to third person???". To be blunt, this simply isn't going to happen. If Rocket wanted it to be first person only, it would be. Even in his streams he used third person.

Rocket just likes to look at the characters ass.

He can do that in the inventory screen.

I won't complain though if you want all the M4 server hopping people that don't know how to play fair on 3p servers.

I'll be on the magical 1st person servers with no coast campers to ruin everything.

[Lemonater47 11]

Rocket stated a while ago the only reason we have 3RD is because real life eyesight is like 180 degrees, which you can't archieve in a firstperson game (unless you use three screens lol)

I agree the game would be far more interesting with firstperson though, but you can't hate the game for having thirdperson. I lost the post Rocket made at that time, but it was very clear why we have thirdperson, he had many valid points in there.

That's the cheating field of view which includes eye movement. And vertical FOV.

Looking straight without moving your eyes have a field of view of 60 degrees horizontally. Which is the FOV a game uses horizontal FOV. Though many people put this at 90 including me. Some people even higher. Though higher than 90 your shoulders are going through your face.

[Diggydug (DayZ) 331]

This is why the game is in alpha to test it out.

 

They at the very least need to explore the possibility or removing tpv outright and what better time to test it out than now early in its life.

 

The mere fact that there are so many proponents to the removal of tpv raises questions questions that need to be answered.

 

Or see how popular first person only servers are first. First person should be the least of BIS's worries when it comes to testing right now.

 

Ok then people should stop wanting forced direct chat mic detection and they can add a suicide button or buddy system

 

I agree that people should stop trying to force this and that on everyone...your point? It's not like any of those things have garnered a lot of support as far as I've seen anyway. You're going down the same road.

[plexico 386]

I prefer first-person only servers, but I don't think anyone should be forced to a certain play style. How would  you feel if it was the other way around, and people were trying to get it third-person only?

[St. Jimmy 1631]

Well this is a "hardcore" game but in reality this is pretty casual on some points and 3rd person is a very good example. DayZ attracts many casual players and that's why it's there.

[bassist05 69]

They just need to make it over the shoulder third person and not floating eye in the sky third person and it'd be a lot better.

[Siberian (DayZ) 527]

 

 Force everyone into first person and its better.

 

nice...

 

love people who think the way they play should be forced on others..

 

/facepalm...

 

ps if u like 1stperson so much go play on 1st person servers...you dont need 3rd person players to hold ur hand, im sure u can find the way there yourself.

[Guest]

This is why the game is in alpha to test it out.

 

They at the very least need to explore the possibility or removing tpv outright and what better time to test it out than now early in its life.

 

The mere fact that there are so many proponents to the removal of tpv raises questions questions that need to be answered.

The reason as to why there's a lot of posts about removing Third-Person is because you don't see people that enjoy 3rd Person bitching about the removal of First-Person

Trust me, the people that enjoy 3rd Person are way more than the 1st person only community.

[Target Practice (DayZ) 1335]

I think the existing plan is the correct one - have a 'hardcore' hive where you're locked to first person for those that want it, and leave 'Vanilla' DayZ players with the choice.

 

Personally I dislike the first-person view - it doesn't feel 'right', and I find that DayZ's controls are unwieldy enough when I can see my character in relation to his surroundings, let alone when I can't. I also don't have the kind of peripheral vision I could reasonably expect to have, which when dealing with enemies that are going to be running up to me from all angles is a considerable disadvantage.

It's also something as simple as I just quite like being able to see my character while I'm playing.

 

I think it's a little of both - it's difficult to argue against the fact that a third person camera is going to at least have the potential to give users an unfair advantage, but there is also a valid counter-argument that says 'no-one is forcing you to use first-person only. It's a handicap you've chosen to give yourself, and it's unfair to criticise those who simply prefer that view.'