the melee system is crap

[belgarionnl 22]

So why am I killing zombies left and right by hitting them once....

Sure a better system would be nice, but for now I can live with it!

[joe_mcentire 2074]

The only thing that needs to be removed is you. All I see posted by you is absolute shite, I don't imagine you'll last too long.

 

 

The melee system at the moment is yes, buggy. The game is an alpha. Still better than the mod.

1x unfortunately true

1x fortunately true

[xInfinityx 44]

not only zeds. got axed today with one swing

 

I'm pretty sure(I think) a headshot will put you out regardless of weapon.

[johnm81 15]

I agree the melee system needs work. Several issues I know of...

 

1. Melee range seems to be equal or less than the melee range of zeds. Clearly this is physically wrong.

2. While Axe is fine the bat and shovel (maybe others I don't know) do little to no damage to the zed requiring many many hits.

 

What I would like to see is a left click swing and hold right click block next auto attack with some negative like longer recovery time before you can swing or block again. This would not only make the system better but would make melee pvp interesting as well.

[mercules 1290]

I'm pretty sure(I think) a headshot will put you out regardless of weapon.

Depending on what will depend on what happens. You can clock someone in the head with a fist and knock them out for a moment. Baseball bat is similar. Axe will straight out kill to the head. I axed a guy who pointed a Mosin at me in a building. I had seen him coming because of his flashlight then he heard me move, pulled the gun and raised it. I was going to say friendly but he raised the thing up to sight along it and I decided it was too late for that. Chop! Would have been a bit less ironic if he had had bullets or maybe spoken to me? He could have bluffed me away since he had range on me. Maybe he expected me to run?

[thelonelyone 103]

Just like xInfinityx said, they have two positions.

 

Took me a while to realise that, lowered and raise. I got it.

If you don't want to be hated on, you shouldn't say "This is shit, this needs work, it sucks, this all suck".

 

Also:

 

WARNING: THIS GAME IS EARLY ACCESS ALPHA. PLEASE DO NOT PURCHASE IT UNLESS YOU WANT TO ACTIVELY SUPPORT DEVELOPMENT OF THE GAME AND ARE PREPARED TO HANDLE WITH SERIOUS ISSUES AND POSSIBLE INTERRUPTIONS OF GAME FUNCTIONING.

[mercules 1290]

2. While Axe is fine the bat and shovel (maybe others I don't know) do little to no damage to the zed requiring many many hits.

 

Hit them in the head, while they are down and getting back up wail on them. Same thing for the crowbar. This is the damage type of the axe is different and so effects them more directly damage wise but the others can knock them prone.

[johnm81 15]

Hit them in the head, while they are down and getting back up wail on them. Same thing for the crowbar. This is the damage type of the axe is different and so effects them more directly damage wise but the others can knock them prone.

Yeah this is true. However, I am not sure the shovel should have the same effect as it has a blade edge or a blunt side depending on how it swings. Wouldn't it be cool if the user could use one as a knock out weapon or a axe like cutting damage weapon?

[xInfinityx 44]

It would be really cool if you could make heads pop like in Project Zomboid. It is so satisfying.

[bloodwork 10]

Hammer and shovel didn`t work at all for me, but knife was excellent - killed 2 zeds easly with that one. Or maybe I just didn`t raise the knife. Who knows... :D

Edited December 19, 2013 by Garainis

[bumwithguns 2]

ok let me tell you why the melee system is bad, from the point you swing to the point it makes contact with what ever you want to hit you cant move or it will hit what ever you original where swinging at. meaning if you swing at a moving object you will never hit it. the only way to hit something is to hit a stationary object. and in this game players and zombies don't tend to stay in one place long enough for you to do your swing motion. i can fully understand that if you swing with a object inbetween you and what it is that  you want to hit that it will hit that instead of what it is you wanted to hit.

 I actually find the melee system to be quite good already. I never hit zombies stationary, and find it quite easy to hit them while in third person and running diagonally. It of course isn't perfect yet, but "perfect" isn't to be expected in an alpha.

 

The majority of players agree but the vocal minority defense team on this forum is going to flame and troll this thread until it dies or is removed.

 As this guy has admitted to not having bought the game in a post already, and doesn't plan on buying it, I'm not sure if we should take anything he has to say about the mechanics of this game seriously, as he certainly lacks any qualifications to comment (hasn't played the game...).

[jforsti@live.de 0]

If you come to DayZ SA and expect a melee system like in triple A titles, you are definitly wrong here. It looks like the engine just cant deliver a proper responsive melee system, where zombies/players stagger after a big hit or your axe will pin into the zombies body after you hit them, it will just never ever happen to dayz.

 

I honestly think its the engines or the devs fault not achieving this, and I of course cant blame them since I dont know better. We get big ass maps, but just not the realistic feel we all know from other AAA titles when you stick a knife into your opponent or chop his head off. Sad but true.

 

And dont tell me it is alpha. Things like this are build on the base functions, way before alpha. Alpha/Beta is for tweaking and testing. What we see now is what we get even in full release tbh concerning melee.

Edited December 19, 2013 by sicco

[bloodwork 10]

They might be able to code melee from scratch later on, I really don`t know the engine specifics but my guess right now is that it`ll always be clunky like the engine they use. Quality of life has grown immensly since mod though if you look at inventory and moving through doors.

[forluna 2]

melee system need more improvements?yes

 

but first they should care about zombies

 

there are really less zombies on ground compared with dayzmod

 

3-4 zombies at most chasing players who shoot in downtown,that's ridiculous.

4-5 times more in dayzmod

 

and zombie AI is really stupid

sometimes i just run to their back and slowly took out my axe and chop them like trees.

they just stand there and do nothing..

 

and many times i heard em screaming but saw nothing around me 

 

and zombies run through walls and stuck in ground agian in dayzSA even more than dayzmod

[Siberian (DayZ) 527]

i gotta admit im struggling going from the mods mellee system to the Sa's..

 

i realize its a alpha so im not to flustered, but i would say at this point the mods mellee (while crappy) wins out of what im presonaly seeing in game..

[need matches 84]

Believe it or not, the melee is WAY better in the SA alpha right now than the mod.

[iDash 4]

just wacked a few Zombies with a bat- it was challenging, but fun.

Can you use fists? if so how?

Edited December 19, 2013 by iDash

[HMS 115]

So many mad replies, yet OP is still 100% right.