DayZ Hacks already happening

[krihelion 175]

That isn't a hack. That is a wild roving herd of UAZs. Do not alarm them as they may stampede!

my mistake, i will watch out for them in the future

 

but seriously, come on

[tsandrey 379]

seriously, what do you know about BE?

 

it didnt even notice when we attached IDA's debugger to it. BE is useless. the straightforward-approach with simple ReadProcessMemory to get all positions of all objects was not fixxed so far, and opensource maphacks are still existing and working - that is NOT what i call "working anticheat measure".

Wiping out public cheats and making certain private sites stop selling their cheats is what I definetly call a "working anticheat measure".

Edited December 18, 2013 by TSAndrey

[Target Practice (DayZ) 1335]

You could check one of the several threads about it that already exist. ;)

[piffaroni 13]

FUNNY...

 

http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/155220-are-there-cars-anywhere-already/

[OrLoK 16183]

seriously, what do you know about BE?

 

it didnt even notice when we attached IDA's debugger to it. BE is useless. the straightforward-approach with simple ReadProcessMemory to get all positions of all objects was not fixxed so far, and opensource maphacks are still existing and working - that is NOT what i call "working anticheat measure".

Hello there

 

You do have a point, as I wrote I was actually thinking, hmm im opening myself up here for a double standard. But im a busy boy so i though, ahh waht the heck.

 

My badly put point was that many folk, not all, but many confuse the inherent openess of the Arma Platform with BE not doing its job.

 

I wasnt clear, apologies :)

 

Rgds

 

LoK

[MLG420blazeit 62]

Why is there no VAC/Battle eye protection for DayZ standalone? I'd love to know that, thanks.

[Jorgenheim 11]

didnt believe it until someone posted this

 

 

The removal of hacking was literally all we wanted in the SA

 

what gives?

 

Saying the game is "full of hackers" is ridiculous. I haven't experience one and I've been playing a good amount on multiple different servers.

[SalamanderAnder (DayZ) 1747]

FUNNY...

 

http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/155220-are-there-cars-anywhere-already/

 

The assets are there. It doesn't mean they are implemented.

[OrLoK 16183]

didnt believe it until someone posted this

 

<snip>

 

The removal of hacking was literally all we wanted in the SA

 

what gives?

 

mergeing

[Target Practice (DayZ) 1335]

Why is there no VAC/Battle eye protection for DayZ standalone? I'd love to know that, thanks.

 

There's a ten-page thread on the subject. Maybe you could check that out? :)

[poiple_ 0]

"Alpha"

[OrLoK 16183]

Why is there no VAC/Battle eye protection for DayZ standalone? I'd love to know that, thanks.

merging

[MLG420blazeit 62]

There's a ten-page thread on the subject. Maybe you could check that out? :)

 

That cesspit of a thread is about hacking, this is a question asking WHY

[piffaroni 13]

why are all the posts of people posting pictures of hackers being deleted?

[OrLoK 16183]

why are all the posts of people posting pictures of hackers being deleted?

rules.

 

If you have proof,PM a mod with the details.

 

L

[TheRedScare 353]

rules.

 

If you have proof,PM a mod with the details.

 

L

Don't lie Orlok, it is clearly a massive conspiracy to cover up the fact it is rocket hacking!!!!!11111111111

[AlcApwn (DayZ) 28]

Wiping out public cheats and making certain private sites stop selling their cheats is what I definetly call a "working anticheat measure".

 

 

 

which it obivously did NOT do, since there are still enough opensource and fully operational and accessible for anyone who can use google :rolleyes:  can we quit the useless discussion about battleye? its neither productive nor @topic. a 15year old with google, a c/c++ compiler, a quick briefing about arma2's memory structure and some more-or-less-deep knowledge of the win32 api can build a working maphack within a few hours.

 

fun fact: change the getversion method of battleye and it will not patch anymore, but still pretend to be up-to-date to arma2s servers :huh:

 

 

 

 

but the question is still unanswered: why did DayZ SA not get the server software it deserves? the player base has stated perfectly clear that it wanted a new, and welldesigned client/server communication and server software, and yet rocket has to deal with problems created by unbearable designs that appear to be created back in the '90s. well maybe they will change it later on, or the community will create their own - just like bukkit did with minecraft.

Edited December 18, 2013 by AlcApwn

[OrLoK 16183]

That cesspit of a thread is about hacking, this is a question asking WHY

Hello there

 

The answer info is here in the thread.

 

Rgds

 

LoK

[ZlobaRUS54 441]

That isn't a hack. That is a wild roving herd of UAZs. Do not alarm them as they may stampede!

 

Look, somebody discovered an abandoned Skoda factory!  :unsure:

[onty 109]

Al i see is ''Hackerzz are back muehehe'' haven't seen any hacker and i played a lot..

[Sickerthansars 53]

jesus people dont search the forums at all rocket already stated as well as some other admin that

 

NO ANTI CHEAT MEASURES ARE ACTIVE CURRENTLY BECAUSE THEY ARE MAKING SURE THE SERVERS CAN HANDLE THE LOAD OF ALL THE PEOPLE PLAYING ONCE THIS IS DONE THEY WILL START IMPLEMENTING THE ANTI-CHEAT/ANTI-COMBAT LOGGING MEASURES

 

But of course lets just keep making a new thread about hackers/combat logging every 20 mins

[semipr0 402]

BE never failed at anything. The CD key system did. BE is actually much better than VAC/PB

 

This is the biggest load of garbage I've ever heard Andrey. VAC/PB and BE all together are nothing more than after the fact solutions, generally far after the fact. I'm not lauding any of them as better than the others, BattlEye's biggest failure isn't the fact that its BattlEye its the fact that the VBS engine base was designed to allow this kind of crap in the first place for legitimate means and they had a Sisyphean task even trying to be an after the fact measure.

 

Even Hangender's PBO based antihack was not always 100% effective but I generally had an update within minutes of a script getting past it which kept server disruptions to a minimum.

 

 

The promise we made is clearly articulated on the steam website, and is not whatever you feel like. I can provide you a link to the website, can you please provide me a link to where I declared:

• That hacking would disappear completely, ever
• That everything would work properly on day 1, or 2, or 3

 

 

And to you sir. Google doesn't really require me to do any deep hunting for your acknowledgements on this issue.

 

I don't expect a response to this because you have far more important things to do. But this was a key tenant of the stand alone's server to client design. And none of us that know anything about game design ever expected you to abolish all hacking forever on day one or even day one thousand....thats not going to happen and we're more than realistic about the fact that any software system is open to exploitation.

 

The problem is we've waited a year and a half for you to come to the table with this and while some people just paid 30 dollars, I've spent at least a thousand dollars or more over the last two years hosting servers that supported the mod, my immediate response the minute the standalone was released was to once again support the game by not just buying it but hosting a server for it. I've spent an inordinate amount of time, just like any other DayZ server admin having to deal with the arcane server management of detecting and eliminating hackers from a server environment, on the old main hive...where I was barely allowed to ban anyone without a huge fight, to the private hive where regardless of my ability to ban people as I saw fit, it was still a huge task simply to properly ensure I was providing a relatively fair environment for the players on my servers.

 

Effectively dealing with the insecurity of the Arma engine was a second job..that I was paying to do because I believed in your ideas and felt they were worth supporting, for me, my friends and thousands of other people I didn't even know.

 

The entire key selling point of the SA for me has not just been your rather interesting re-envisioning of DayZ as the most realistic action survival simulation that you can make, but the fact that you acknowledged, multiple times over the period of transition from mod to stand alone game, that the server to client relationship between A2 servers and A2 clients was the major hurdle that the SA had to overcome to provide a better experience for players. And I patiently waited for a year and a half for this to be the case. The fact that its not the case and the entire relationship between the client and server is very much the same as any other VBS based engine variant is frankly appalling.

 

I'm not some famous Youtuber or blogger or review columnist so its hardly like my opinion is ever going to matter outside of this post, I'm just a guy thats spent a lot of money supporting your vision. And while I totally get that you're working this project with a small team and a lot of the things you have achieved have been a great leap forwards in what the DayZ experience is...the simple facts are is that it doesn't matter how much I enjoy that or how much work you and your team have done, if the server doesn't ignore illegitimate client executions and calls...then all that work and money and time was for nothing, on your side, and on mine.

 

So in conclusion...don't get me wrong I completely understand that there are some things that are never going to be managable from the server side, but for gods sake...client position, and game assets aren't something that the server should ever be accepting the clients calls for.

 

We'll see how this goes with the "Critical security features" re-enabled but simple facts are the server to client architecture was a key tenant of the SA's development for me and probably quite a few other people though I won't assume to speak for anyone but myself.

 

So yeah....you know this guy.

 

[semipr0 402]

Gateway failure double post FTW. Ignore this.

Edited December 18, 2013 by semipr0

[west134 0]

curious what these critical security updates were.

 

being an optimist, hopefully it patches some of these scripting "holes"

 

but we'll see, i suppose.

[sausagekingofchicago 4711]

Just wait. Tis all I have to say.