WalkerDown (DayZ) 296 Posted December 17, 2013 READ THIS FIRST: this is not an accusation of something broken, they might have not introduced any cheat prevention in the alpha yet, so that's why i opened this thread (to know/understand). So you can already teleport all around the map (tp others as well), godmode, and all the usual s**t... this is what killed dayz mod, i just want to be sure (well not sure, but almost confident) that the story won't repeat again, otherwise i just go around, because having 60% of cheaters aboard (that's the last stat i had after i ave decided to turn off all my servers) isn't what i want experience again. Thank you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kichilron 8550 Posted December 17, 2013 So you can already teleport all around the map (tp others as well), godmode, and all the usual s**t... this is what killed dayz mod, i just want to be sure (well not sure, but almost confident) that the story won't repeat again, otherwise i just go around, because having 60% of cheaters aboard (that's the last stat i had after i ave decided to turn off all my servers) isn't what i want experience again. Without solid proof there's no way anyone is going to believe you. Give us proof and we will listen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Audio Rejectz 144 Posted December 17, 2013 (edited) READ THIS FIRST: this is not an accusation of something broken, they might have not introduced any cheat prevention in the alpha yet, so that's why i opened this thread (to know/understand). So you can already teleport all around the map (tp others as well), godmode, and all the usual s**t... this is what killed dayz mod, i just want to be sure (well not sure, but almost confident) that the story won't repeat again, otherwise i just go around, because having 60% of cheaters aboard (that's the last stat i had after i ave decided to turn off all my servers) isn't what i want experience again. Thank you. Sorry but i dont believe you, all of it is server side now and does not read scripts from players EDIT: Ok, so just checked on a well known cheat sight and they actually have just released a hack for standalone. They have found a way to use scripts from the mod including god mode and stuff. I have PM'd and admin with the link Edited December 17, 2013 by Audio Rejectz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
r4z0r49 4761 Posted December 17, 2013 Dean has said SA will contain a mix of Battleye and Vac support for anti-cheat software. There also been alot of work at the engine level to reduce the amount of issues we saw in the mod with cheaters. :-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iAwesome 128 Posted December 17, 2013 He's right. Look at this invisible player in my scope... 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ImageCtrl 719 Posted December 17, 2013 Not seen still now. Youtube toled me you are wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WalkerDown (DayZ) 296 Posted December 17, 2013 Are you a developer or what? Rocket knows already what's possible and what's not.. at this point (nor that is too hard.. there's a whole cheating community that have already hacked it, and personally i'm starting right know to give a look at the data structure, it doesn't look the tree have changed much, so it's pretty easy to apply a simple ESP and godmode atm). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WalkerDown (DayZ) 296 Posted December 17, 2013 (edited) Sorry but i dont believe you, all of it is server side now and does not read scripts from players Exactly.. this is what i believed.. because of the net bubble the cheating possibilities would have been limited, but unfortunately they are not AT THE MOMENT .. this is why I asked if the current situation is just temporary or if i'm missing something here... because a stupid code obfuscation is NOT going to work you know? :) Edited December 17, 2013 by WalkerDown Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Audio Rejectz 144 Posted December 17, 2013 Dean has said SA will contain a mix of Battleye and Vac support for anti-cheat software. There also been alot of work at the engine level to reduce the amount of issues we saw in the mod with cheaters. :-) Ive sent you a PM mate with a link to a hack thats just been released, apparently works for standalone Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kichilron 8550 Posted December 17, 2013 (edited) He's right. Look at this invisible player in my scope... I don't see it :o :D Good one. Are you a developer or what? Rocket knows already what's possible and what's not.. at this point (nor that is too hard.. there's a whole cheating community that have already hacked it, and personally i'm starting right know to give a look at the data structure, it doesn't look the tree have changed much, so it's pretty easy to apply a simple ESP and godmode atm). Honestly: if you are doing nothing but admitting being active in hack-communities and trying to hack the game that just came out in early access - what exactly do you want here? Do you want me to show you the door or may I drag you out personally? Edited December 17, 2013 by kichilron 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WalkerDown (DayZ) 296 Posted December 17, 2013 I don't see it :o :D Good one. Honestly: if you are doing nothing but admitting being active in hack-communities and trying to hack the game that just came out in early access - what exactly do you want here? Do you want me to show you the door or may I drag you out personally? You mean the opposite.. i "work" for the opposite faction (the anti-hack part of it..), and the way to "fight" em is to understand what they are doing. Do you want show me the door? Grow up.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WalkerDown (DayZ) 296 Posted December 17, 2013 Dean has said SA will contain a mix of Battleye and Vac support for anti-cheat software. There also been alot of work at the engine level to reduce the amount of issues we saw in the mod with cheaters. :-) I know.. and i hope so. I was just a little "worried" on how easy it is *today* ... i'm confident they'll find a solution in the next weeks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Inception. 9443 Posted December 17, 2013 (edited) I am still yet to see any cheaters or any evidence of cheaters. Perhaps you could enlighten me? Edited December 17, 2013 by Inception. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WalkerDown (DayZ) 296 Posted December 17, 2013 (edited) I am still yet to see any cheaters or any evidence of cheaters. Perhaps you could enlighten me? Inception... at the moment you don't even need programmer skills (the code obfuscation i was talking about) to load an offline script ... as you may swap the screen init sqf with your own script.. apparently there's no anti-cheat preventing it. You will find all the details on MPG .. i won't post the link here of course. Edited December 17, 2013 by WalkerDown Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Weedz 1105 Posted December 17, 2013 (edited) If there is no anti-cheat than maybe but I highly doubt there isn't. Edited December 17, 2013 by Weedz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
psychopigeon 32 Posted December 17, 2013 He said this is what killed the mod, but the mod didn't die and has many thousands still playing.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WalkerDown (DayZ) 296 Posted December 17, 2013 If there is no anti-cheat than maybe but I highly doubt there isn't. I think it isn't enabled yet (and it makes sense, since it's the first day...)... since now you can run CE without even being kicked. A3 in example didn't had any anticheat on for some weeks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iAwesome 128 Posted December 17, 2013 I felt pretty cheated when these two russians came chasing after me with assault rifles, handcuffed me, took my blood and left me for dead... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WalkerDown (DayZ) 296 Posted December 17, 2013 He said this is what killed the mod, but the mod didn't die and has many thousands still playing.. The current dayz numbers are nothing if compared with the old days... anyway you are correct, I should have specified: the rampant cheating is what killed DayZ for me (or the experience of it), since by running some servers i figured how big and disrupting was the cheating, so i stopped to play all together. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Weedz 1105 Posted December 17, 2013 (edited) The only proof of any hack is a screen shot that says 'terrain hack enabled' that could have been done in MS paint. One of the options is Repair Vehicle which aren't even in the game yet so ... And maybe a night vision hack but again it was just 1 screenshot Everything is serverside there won't be many hacks. Edited December 17, 2013 by Weedz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrGhillieMan 8 Posted December 17, 2013 READ THIS FIRST: this is not an accusation of something broken, they might have not introduced any cheat prevention in the alpha yet, so that's why i opened this thread (to know/understand). So you can already teleport all around the map (tp others as well), godmode, and all the usual s**t... this is what killed dayz mod, i just want to be sure (well not sure, but almost confident) that the story won't repeat again, otherwise i just go around, because having 60% of cheaters aboard (that's the last stat i had after i ave decided to turn off all my servers) isn't what i want experience again. Thank you. On the mod they kind of fixed the hacking' I hadn't seen a hacker for about 6 to 7 months Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
belgarionnl 22 Posted December 17, 2013 Yup i can already download cheat scripts, damnit this killed the mod for us.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Weedz 1105 Posted December 17, 2013 (edited) There are no hacks. The screenshots people are showing are from old DayZ mod scripts as they include things like repair vehicle. Some of my friends who are the people who make the actual real hacks for games at some of the biggest websites are looking at the code already and saying it's going to be ridiculously difficult to hack when they start trying ... which they haven't done yet. There's not even links for the hacks in the threads where the people with 10 posts and an MS paint image are saying they've made the hack. Edited December 17, 2013 by Weedz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Merc13 11 Posted December 17, 2013 There are no hacks. The screenshots people are showing are from old DayZ mod scripts as they include things like repair vehicle. Some of my friends who are the people who make the actual real hacks for games at some of the biggest websites are looking at the code already and saying it's going to be ridiculously difficult to hack when they start trying ... which they haven't done yet. There's not even links for the hacks in the threads where the people with 10 posts are saying they've made the hack.Ever think of changing your friends? I hate cheaters and the only thing worse than cheaters online are the idiots who make it possible for them to play their little games. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Weedz 1105 Posted December 17, 2013 (edited) Ever think of changing your friends? I hate cheaters and the only thing worse than cheaters online are the idiots who make it possible for them to play their little games.Nope. I've known them for years and met them because I used to develop anti-cheat scripts and we had fun breaking each others shit. Building a gun doesn't make you a murderer if someone uses it to kill someone. If they weren't making the money from 12 year old's parent's credit cards someone else would. Edited December 17, 2013 by Weedz 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
