beavis_5000 111 Posted November 9, 2013 Whatever you say man. Honestly I would have at least gained some respect back for Musty if you guys would have came and and just said "We see where you guys are coming from, we shouldnt advertise hacking in a vid" or something similar. But the fact you guys act like this is ok really puts the nail in the coffin. You want me to go ahead and tell you my experience on a Musty Epoch server? No I wont because I wont rub salt in the wound. Regulate you server the right way. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weparo 613 Posted November 9, 2013 They're not hacking. Get off your high horse, as there are no hacks involved. You don't understand the main point of the video, and are immediately assuming that they're hacking. The infinite ammo used on an M9 was just to emphasize their joking point. You guys need to grow up and realize that there are no HACKS being used in this video, and it's merely admins making a promotional video. What you're saying is the equivalent to me me making a video with similar scripts in the editor, and calling me a hacker. I do understand the point of the video, and couldn't agree more! But how is having an m9 with unlimited ammo not a cheat? It might not be a hack, yes. BUT IT IS A CHEAT! And that's not cool with me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Statik (DayZ) 2695 Posted November 9, 2013 This is fucking bullshit. You guys are losing your fucking caps over a video, made using admin scripts on a PRIVATE, LOCKED, SERVER. Reporting this to get it locked because you guys clearly don't understand the definition of promotion, or how using scripts on a private, locked, server is NOT hacking. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Statik (DayZ) 2695 Posted November 9, 2013 I do understand the point of the video, and couldn't agree more! But how is having an m9 with unlimited ammo not a cheat? It might not be a hack, yes. BUT IT IS A CHEAT! And that's not cool with meNO IT'S NOT. Arma was based around scripting, and just because there is a unlimited ammo script, that doesn't make it a cheat. You clearly haven't been playing arma for very long, have you? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker. 1484 Posted November 9, 2013 Whatever you say man. Honestly I would have at least gained some respect back for Musty if you guys would have came and and just said "We see where you guys are coming from, we shouldnt advertise hacking in a vid" or something similar. But the fact you guys act like this is ok really puts the nail in the coffin. You want me to go ahead and tell you my experience on a Musty Epoch server? No I wont because I wont rub salt in the wound. Regulate you server the right way.We play on the server, we are not admins. And besides, you shouldn't tell other people how to run their servers, they don't go to your job and knock the dicks out of your mouth. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weparo 613 Posted November 9, 2013 Whatever you say man. Honestly I would have at least gained some respect back for Musty if you guys would have came and and just said "We see where you guys are coming from, we shouldnt advertise hacking in a vid" or something similar. But the fact you guys act like this is ok really puts the nail in the coffin. You want me to go ahead and tell you my experience on a Musty Epoch server? No I wont because I wont rub salt in the wound. Regulate you server the right way. Pretty much yeah. I thought the whole point of the vid is to show that hax kill dayz? so we are on the same side. But when some people don't feel ok with admins cheating. (an m9 with 999+ shots is a cheat, don't tell me otherwise) And the we get called IDIOTS? PATHETIC? STUPID? Kinda tells me enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kichilron 8550 Posted November 9, 2013 Are you seriously getting into that sort of discussion here? Do you seriously think it would help anyone to make jokes about cancer? All of you? I wouldn't have thought people that have no connection to our community whatsoever would get into a discussion over how this could be abused, because they think it's a case of hacking? It is not and simply because you call it that one can clearly see how you don't have the knowledge to judge what is going on. These days any admin theoretically has the chance to have these powers, if they know how to read - as there is tons of tutorials how to enable admintools on your server. And we all have agreed to the fact that we aren't going to play as normal players on our server because of what these tools offer us. At the same time we're monitoring people's behavior banning a lot of people that are actually using hacks, just because we spend our time not actually playing, but monitoring the server. If you really want to go ahead and judge us for the time and effort we have put into our servers just because we were making jokes about a group of people playing on our servers (those people actually got the joke, as Statik is the one that posted the video and is part of that exact group). We currently have 5 Epoch Chernarus Servers running that fill up to 50 players constantly over the weekend and we need monitor the servers and if you really want to go ahead and judge us while you're not part of the serverpopulation, but standing on the outside - go ahead and do so, as we wouldn't need you on our servers anyway. Noone abuses any adminpowers and goes around using these powers against other players. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weparo 613 Posted November 9, 2013 NO IT'S NOT. Arma was based around scripting, and just because there is a unlimited ammo script, that doesn't make it a cheat. You clearly haven't been playing arma for very long, have you?ARE YOU A.... [...] THIS IS BULLSHIT! An M9 Pistol is to have 15 rounds more or less, depending on the mag. ARMA makes it possible to have unlimited ammo. FINE. that doesn't mean you should! why do you think the gave it a 15 rounds mag? and not a 500 one? it's a three byte change in the code. YET IT'S NOT THERE. Guess why? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beavis_5000 111 Posted November 9, 2013 Pretty much yeah. I thought the whole point of the vid is to show that hax kill dayz? so we are on the same side. But when some people don't feel ok with admins cheating. (an m9 with 999+ shots is a cheat, don't tell me otherwise) And the we get called IDIOTS? PATHETIC? STUPID? Kinda tells me enough. Its ironic they would try to make an anti-cheating thread and in turn display themselves cheating. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beavis_5000 111 Posted November 9, 2013 We play on the server, we are not admins. And besides, you shouldn't tell other people how to run their servers, they don't go to your job and knock the dicks out of your mouth. Way to continue to help the positive image Musty now has. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker. 1484 Posted November 9, 2013 Its ironic they would try to make an anti-cheating thread and in turn display themselves cheating. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weparo 613 Posted November 9, 2013 Are you seriously getting into that sort of discussion here? Do you seriously think it would help anyone to make jokes about cancer? All of you? I wouldn't have thought people that have no connection to our community whatsoever would get into a discussion over how this could be abused, because they think it's a case of hacking? It is not and simply because you call it that one can clearly see how you don't have the knowledge to judge what is going on. These days any admin theoretically has the chance to have these powers, if they know how to read - as there is tons of tutorials how to enable admintools on your server. And we all have agreed to the fact that we aren't going to play as normal players on our server because of what these tools offer us. At the same time we're monitoring people's behavior banning a lot of people that are actually using hacks, just because we spend our time not actually playing, but monitoring the server. If you really want to go ahead and judge us for the time and effort we have put into our servers just because we were making jokes about a group of people playing on our servers (those people actually got the joke, as Statik is the one that posted the video and is part of that exact group). We currently have 5 Epoch Chernarus Servers running that fill up to 50 players constantly over the weekend and we need monitor the servers and if you really want to go ahead and judge us while you're not part of the serverpopulation, but standing on the outside - go ahead and do so, as we wouldn't need you on our servers anyway. Noone abuses any adminpowers and goes around using these powers against other players. I understand that you feel atacked. Yet I do really value that you guys monitor the server. that you are there for us when we run into bugs or issues. I REALLY APRECIATE THAT! I do! But using cheats is in NO WAY related to doing any of what you descibed. And calling people idiots, nolifers, stupid and ignorant for simply pointing out that they don't think using cheats in a promotional video is a good idea is not ok. I hope you understand, Weparo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zfleming12 395 Posted November 9, 2013 Steak and Potatoes, Amber, Squiggs (I think), and maybe more??? made this video dedicated to us. Out standing.Listen to the audio. EDIT: oh and kichi did some shit tooOh god I cannot stop laughing so hard from this video. *looks at the rest of the thread* ....why are we fighting? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker. 1484 Posted November 9, 2013 Way to continue to help the positive image Musty now has.Now has with who? You two idiots? Lol, who cares what you think? (pssst the answer is no one) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker. 1484 Posted November 9, 2013 Oh god I cannot stop laughing so hard from this video. *looks at the rest of the thread* ....why are we fighting?We are feeding some obvious trolls, not sure why. I guess we are bored lol 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zfleming12 395 Posted November 9, 2013 We are feeding some obvious trolls, not sure why. I guess we are bored lolAh well....yall being silly.This is a really good video and I would love to see more of these... Espically the ending, was expecting satchel charges and got something even better.PURE DAYZ COMEDY GOLD I TELL YA! :D 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weparo 613 Posted November 9, 2013 We are feeding some obvious trolls, not sure why. I guess we are bored lol Have you ever considered to stop beeing a prick? seriously dude! People are just saying that they don't think hax are ok, and you insult them because you don't agree? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker. 1484 Posted November 9, 2013 (edited) Have you ever considered to stop beeing a prick? seriously dude! People are just saying that they don't think hax are ok, and you insult them because you don't agree?Better to Remain Silent and Be Thought a Fool than to Speak and Remove All Doubt This^ is about you Imagine a world full of posts where you just shut your yap and realized no one wants to hear you opinion. Edited November 9, 2013 by Bakermensch 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beavis_5000 111 Posted November 9, 2013 Ah well....yall being silly.This is a really good video and I would love to see more of these... Espically the ending, was expecting satchel charges and got something even better.PURE DAYZ COMEDY GOLD I TELL YA! :D I suppose it is silly if you consider a servers admin putting out a vid advertising their server and the vid displays these admin using unlimited ammo being silly. To me its one of the huge issues of DayZ. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kichilron 8550 Posted November 9, 2013 (edited) But using cheats is in NO WAY related to doing any of what you descibed. And calling people idiots, nolifers, stupid and ignorant for simply pointing out that they don't think using cheats in a promotional video is a good idea is not ok. I hope you understand, I do not. Noone has ever said, that this is a promotional video.It was a video we only posted on our forums to tease Statik's crew. Because the people that are a part of our community actually know what is going on. Using the admintools is a necessary part of our work, as there are a lot of bugs occuring in Epoch and we need to sort those things out. Epoch is not Vanilla DayZ and you shouldn't try to see it as such. It might be something you wouldn't want to see on DayZ, but in Epoch it sometimes is necessary to help people out giving them their keys to their car back, because they have lost it due to a glitch. Or maybe delete parts of their base because it was moved due to a glitch after a restart. If you would want to run all the way over there to help someone out as an admin, that's fine with me.Go ahead and do so because you think anything else would be "cheating". Last time I checked "cheating" would be giving yourself an unfair advantage over another player defeating them in a fight, that was supposed to be equal. This is not the case, as we do not play on the server as normal players. We are acting as admins and just because the environment in DayZ used to be changed by admins abusing their powers and scripters - this is what poisoned your mind. It is not us, who are helpful admins having to change problems the gameengine / glitches / actual scripters produced.Do you not think it's a good thing we can provide an environment we can control and give you the safe feeling so you know we could repay you if you have been killed illegitimately? We are not players and I fail to see why you want to call us out as players abusing their adminpowers, we are not abusing them and we are not even players on that server - we use them to make sure everything is working okay in the way we intended it to give players the experience they are supposed to have. I suggest we all leave this discussion as is, because otherwise everyone would make fools of ourselves creating more problems then there actually are. Especially as a couple of people have been quite upset already. Oh - and I have never called anyone anything like what you suggested up there. Infact - if you want to talk about it with someone who was not involved in the making of the video feel free to contact the staff at MustyGaming. Edited November 9, 2013 by kichilron 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zfleming12 395 Posted November 9, 2013 "Oh hi, i'm so glad you all came to help me, I'm new to this game and AGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH"Hahahahaahaha 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Statik (DayZ) 2695 Posted November 9, 2013 ARE YOU A.... [...] THIS IS BULLSHIT! An M9 Pistol is to have 15 rounds more or less, depending on the mag. ARMA makes it possible to have unlimited ammo. FINE. that doesn't mean you should! why do you think the gave it a 15 rounds mag? and not a 500 one? it's a three byte change in the code. YET IT'S NOT THERE. Guess why?No, Arma is based around allowing scripts. We deem it to be cheating in certain game modes, however running one on your own, and using it to create something like this, is completely legit. They're not playing in a public server, making it completely legit. Now, if we could keep this thread civil until the lock, that would be outstanding. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beavis_5000 111 Posted November 9, 2013 (edited) Better to Remain Silent and Be Thought a Fool than to Speak and Remove All Doubt This^ is about you Imagine a world full of posts where you just shut you yap and realized no one wants to hear you opinion. Not one time have I insulted you or anyone else yet you try to belittle me and Weparo with insults. Yet we are still trying to explain to you what is wrong with the vid and why Hardcore Gamers wont like it. And yet you still insult us for our opinions on cheating. The vid combined with the insults have made Musty look like an immature community. If you guys (Musty) are lucky most hardcore and legit players wont make their way to this thread and see this BS. Not much more I can say here. Edited November 9, 2013 by electricfuneral 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Statik (DayZ) 2695 Posted November 9, 2013 "Oh hi, i'm so glad you all came to help me, I'm new to this game and AGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH"HahahahaahahaThe scream at the heli part is what got me. I never heard the dialog initially. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weparo 613 Posted November 9, 2013 @kichilron : I appreciate you answering me in such a detailled matter. I understand that you do need special powers to well regulate a server. Yet I have to deem the use of a unlimited ammo script uneccessary and do not apreciate it. Since so many people have come to a very disrespectfull and biased way of argueing i appreciate your objective commtent even more. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites