Best DayZ Video on Earth

[weparo 613]

Better to Remain Silent and Be Thought a Fool than to Speak and Remove All Doubt

 

This^ is about you

 

Imagine a world full of posts where you just shut you yap and realized no one wants to hear you opinion.

 

See, this is the beauty of it. You don't like my opinions? ok, you know what that's cool. Don't read them. That's fine. But don't go around insulting people and call them names.

 

If no one likes my opinion, well, I don't force them to hear it. Perfectly cool. I don't agree with all posts and opinions neither.

[Baker. 1484]

Not one time have I insulted you or anyone else yet you try to belittle me and Weparo with insults.

 

Yet we are still trying to explain to you what is wrong with the vid and why Hardcore Gamers wont like it. And yet you still insult us for our opinions on cheating.

 

The vid combined with the insults have made Musty look like an immature community. If you guys (Musty) are lucky most hardcore and legit players wont make their way to this thread and see this BS. Not much more I can say here.

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[Statik (DayZ) 2695]

Not one time have I insulted you or anyone else yet you try to belittle me and Weparo with insults.

 

Yet we are still trying to explain to you what is wrong with the vid and why Hardcore Gamers wont like it. And yet you still insult us for our opinions on cheating.

 

The vid combined with the insults have made Musty look like an immature community. If you guys (Musty) are lucky most hardcore and legit players wont make their way to this thread and see this BS. Not much more I can say here.

Ignore Baker.

 

This video was filmed privately, and away from Musty servers. That is what people are trying to make you understand. By doing that, that makes it not cheating at all, which is why you confuse me. Because it's not breaking any rules, as at this point, it's not deemed hacking, nor cheating.

[Baker. 1484]

See, this is the beauty of it. You don't like my opinions? ok, you know what that's cool. Don't read them. That's fine. But don't go around insulting people and call them names.

 

If no one likes my opinion, well, I don't force them to hear it. Perfectly cool. I don't agree with all posts and opinions neither.

[beavis_5000 111]

No, Arma is based around allowing scripts. We deem it to be cheating in certain game modes, however running one on your own, and using it to create something like this, is completely legit.

 

They're not playing in a public server, making it completely legit. Now, if we could keep this thread civil until the lock, that would be outstanding.

 

 

Your making "Legit" out to be a thin blurry line when its not.

 

Using any type of cheat crosses the line.

 

Sure go into your private, locked servers and use unlimited ammo all you want but when do you decide to bring that into a public server?

 

Ive seen for a fact, on video, Musty admin does indeed tamper and play with that shit and thats the main point. And not only that they put a vid out displaying it.

 

I personally never want to play with anyone who uses an unlmited cheat, hack, script or etc. Regardless of what server it is and whether or not its locked, when someone uses that stuff it immediately shows me there mentailty.

[weparo 613]

Let's not forget one thing, using hax, or scripts (which is basically the same, just depends on how you use it) supports the author / distributor of them. Even if they are "free scripts" or free hax.

[Zero Cool 35]

Your making "Legit" out to be a thin blurry line when its not.

 

Using any type of cheat crosses the line.

 

Sure go into your private, locked servers and use unlimited ammo all you want but when do you decide to bring that into a public server?

 

Ive seen for a fact, on video, Musty admin does indeed tamper and play with that shit and thats the main point. And not only that they put a vid out displaying it.

 

I personally never want to play with anyone who uses an unlmited cheat, hack, script or etc. Regardless of what server it is and whether or not its locked, when someone uses that stuff it immediately shows me there mentailty.

 

 

With all due respect.

 

The video was recorded on a test server which is usually locked and is used for testing various upgrades ect to the public server

The use of infinite ammo was for the purpose of exaggerating the absurdity of the story being told in the video.

Its a parody.

Movie makers use the infinite ammo concept all the time, do you log on to their various forums to bitch about how wrong it is to never see Chuck Norris reload a weapon?

 

What you people are doing is taking something and blowing it way out of proportion probably for no other reason than to troll, or at least I hope because the alternative is you are an idiot  

Edited November 9, 2013 by Zero Cool

[kichilron 8550]

The vid combined with the insults have made Musty look like an immature community. If you guys (Musty) are lucky most hardcore and legit players wont make their way to this thread and see this BS. Not much more I can say here.

 

 

As MustyGaming is an open multigaming community we can not tell anyone what to do or what not. Everyone has their oppinion and it's not my place to decide. Baker is not part of staff of MustyGaming and his oppinions are his own. Whether I am taking his side or not is not part of this discussion.

 

 

 

@kichilron : I appreciate you answering me in such a detailled matter. I understand that you do need special powers to well regulate a server. Yet I have to deem the use of a unlimited ammo script uneccessary and do not apreciate it. Since so many people have come to a very disrespectfull and biased way of argueing i appreciate your objective commtent even more.

 

 

I am trying to solve this matter in a way people understand that scripting is not what Musty represents. If anyone wants to see otherwise that makes me sad, yet I can barely change it.

 

 

Your making "Legit" out to be a thin blurry line when its not.

 

Using any type of cheat crosses the line.

 

Sure go into your private, locked servers and use unlimited ammo all you want but when do you decide to bring that into a public server?

 

Ive seen for a fact, on video, Musty admin does indeed tamper and play with that shit and thats the main point. And not only that they put a vid out displaying it.

 

I personally never want to play with anyone who uses an unlmited cheat, hack, script or etc. Regardless of what server it is and whether or not its locked, when someone uses that stuff it immediately shows me there mentailty.

 

 

You do not seem to understand that it is not a hack that was used in that video. Even though you keep mentioning it - it doesn't become true, you know? Have you ever worked with ARMA? Have you ever seen an event organised in ARMA?

 

I find it hard to believe you know anything about it and just because it was used in a closed environment it doesn't mean that you can see all MustyGaming-Administrators are abusing this and go around the servers using "Unlimited Ammo". Who tells you that these admintools you see on our development server are part of the admintools we use on our public server?

Do you have any understanding of how ARMA-scripting works and how it affects the players? No MustyGaming-Administrator ever used any "hacks" on our servers.

 

The way ARMA works and how the scripts and commands work and how the engine is made makes DayZ what it is. Without the ability to be able to manipulate the ARMA-engine DayZ and all of it's mods wouldn't have existed in the first place.

 

I have to point out to you yet again, that what you see in there is not a hackscript. You seem to think that any sort of scripting is bad, yet the only thing that poisoned your mind is the fact that many people have been using the same scriptcommands used to create DayZ and Epoch and all other mods are used to manipulate the engine in a way that it causes damage for other players.

 

If you find proof that this ever happened feel free to contact BattlEye or anyone else you deem can do something about it.

Edited November 9, 2013 by kichilron

[Statik (DayZ) 2695]

Your making "Legit" out to be a thin blurry line when its not.

 

Using any type of cheat crosses the line.

 

Sure go into your private, locked servers and use unlimited ammo all you want but when do you decide to bring that into a public server?

 

Ive seen for a fact, on video, Musty admin does indeed tamper and play with that shit and thats the main point. And not only that they put a vid out displaying it.

 

I personally never want to play with anyone who uses an unlmited cheat, hack, script or etc. Regardless of what server it is and whether or not its locked, when someone uses that stuff it immediately shows me there mentailty.

You're not understanding what I'm saying. You need to go and read the definition of cheating. Creating scripts for arma is NOT cheating. What you're saying right now, is using scripts in arma is cheating, and hacking. If you believe that, then you really don't deserve to be apart of any ArmA community.

 

Scripting in arma does not mean hacking whatsoever. Using scripts in a promo video reflects nothing negatively against admins. All it shows is that they took the time to open a PRIVATE PASSWORDED SERVER, and took the time to produce a completely legit video.

 

If you honestly think using scripts in arma is always hacking, you must really have no idea how this game works.

[weparo 613]

You're not understanding what I'm saying. You need to go and read the definition of cheating. Creating scripts for arma is NOT cheating. What you're saying right now, is using scripts in arma is cheating, and hacking. If you believe that, then you really don't deserve to be apart of any ArmA community.

 

Scripting in arma does not mean hacking whatsoever. Using scripts in a promo video reflects nothing negatively against admins. All it shows is that they took the time to open a PRIVATE PASSWORDED SERVER, and took the time to produce a completely legit video.

 

If you honestly think using scripts in arma is always hacking, you must really have no idea how this game works.

 

I suppose it depends on how you use a script. what you script. Making a plane or heli patrol an area in arma = good. making an infinite ammo cheat in dayz = bad.

[beavis_5000 111]

Ignore Baker.

 

This video was filmed privately, and away from Musty servers. That is what people are trying to make you understand. By doing that, that makes it not cheating at all, which is why you confuse me. Because it's not breaking any rules, as at this point, it's not deemed hacking, nor cheating.

 

 

 

 

I am extremely weary of anyone who messes with that kind of stuff in anyway to the point I would never play with someone who did. I know for a fact many, many other people are the same way. People have had there day ruined by this very cheat and others like it.

 

Im not out to ruin the name of your server but I will raise a red flag where it needs raised.

 

I think you guys should take our opinions of much more value and maybe even delete the vid because its probably a safe bet that the more people that see that vid and realize whats in it the worse it would be for the legitamcy of your server.

 

Most people wont see that and just trust and assume you only use that in a private server.

[Statik (DayZ) 2695]

using hax, or scripts (which is basically the same

There is no relation whatsoever. You really should read up on the difference before posing, because techically, nobody "hacks" in DayZ, that's just a term. It's all scripting. And arma 2 was DESIGNED around scripting

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[tommy290 941]

Not one time have I insulted you or anyone else yet you try to belittle me and Weparo with insults.

 

Yet we are still trying to explain to you what is wrong with the vid and why Hardcore Gamers wont like it. And yet you still insult us for our opinions on cheating.

 

The vid combined with the insults have made Musty look like an immature community. If you guys (Musty) are lucky most hardcore and legit players wont make their way to this thread and see this BS. Not much more I can say here.

 

I believe everyone fully understands your opinions on cheating, and I believe we all agree that there's no room for cheaters in Dayz.

 

Here's the disconnect: no one was cheating in the video. Private server; participating "actors"; tools regularly available to admin. That is not cheating. It would be the equivalent of some kids playing basketball and filming themselves doing dunks on an adjustable rim that's been lowered. Can you have a 6 foot rim in the NBA? Of course not and no one would say you could. Can you have a 6 foot rim in your backyard with your friends so you can pretend you're Michael Jordan? Yes.

 

 

Your making "Legit" out to be a thin blurry line when its not.

 

Using any type of cheat crosses the line.

 

Sure go into your private, locked servers and use unlimited ammo all you want but when do you decide to bring that into a public server?

 

Ive seen for a fact, on video, Musty admin does indeed tamper and play with that shit and thats the main point. And not only that they put a vid out displaying it.

 

I personally never want to play with anyone who uses an unlmited cheat, hack, script or etc. Regardless of what server it is and whether or not its locked, when someone uses that stuff it immediately shows me there mentailty.

 

It appears to me that you have a specific issue with Musty, which stems from something beyond this thread. In any case, I assume that you do not play DayZ. Any admin has the power to do these sort of things, and that's not limited to Musty admin. Any server you play on will have admins with the power to corrupt your game. The entire point that you are missing is that regular players from Musty are explaining that there have been no issues with admin abuse. This entire thread is basically a couple people trying to slander a community without having any evidence to back up their accusations.

[beavis_5000 111]

With all due respect.

 

The video was recorded on a test server which is usually locked and is used for testing various upgrades ect to the public server

The use of infinite ammo was for the purpose of exaggerating the absurdity of the story being told in the video.

Its a parody.

Movie makers use the infinite ammo concept all the time, do you log on to their various forums to bitch about how wrong it is to never see Chuck Norris reload a weapon?

 

What you people are doing is taking something and blowing it way out of proportion probably for no other reason than to troll, or at least I hope because the alternative is you are an idiot  

 

 

 

 

If you expect me to assume these people go into a private server, splurge on these powers and then leave it at that, thats one thing.

 

But you cant post a vid of admin doing this and expect me not to think its sketchy.

[Zero Cool 35]

 

 

I think you guys should take our opinions of much more value and maybe even delete the vid because its probably a safe bet that the more people that see that vid and realize whats in it the worse it would be for the legitamcy of your server.

 

Most people wont see that and just trust and assume you only use that in a private server.

 

 

Your opinion is as irrelevant as it is wrong

Every admin of every server has access to one or more tools that allows them to have an advantage of players. Every time you log on to any server you are trusting that these tools will not be abused

 

Most people understand that

[kichilron 8550]

I am extremely weary of anyone who messes with that kind of stuff in anyway to the point I would never play with someone who did. I know for a fact many, many other people are the same way. People have had there day ruined by this very cheat and others like it.

 

 

May I ask you what "this very cheat" is supposed to mean? Which one would that be? How does it work? And how does it affect you as a player and changes your experience in a bad way?

 

Because it seems like you missed my point yet again: DayZ is based on ARMA-scripting and the code does not differ it any way from the one people use selling "cheats".

 

 

If you think scripting for ARMA is bad - you wouldn't have ever played this very mod.

[Statik (DayZ) 2695]

I suppose it depends on how you use a script. what you script. Making a plane or heli patrol an area in arma = good. making an infinite ammo cheat in dayz = bad.

Making a plane patrol an area is hardly a script. I'm talking about scripts people have created, such as infinite ammo.

 

You clearly have not been reading my previous posts. Using a script as such, to create and produce a video on a private, locked, server is not in any way whatsoever hacking. Not in the least, and you need  to understand that before you go off calling them hackers, and cheaters. That's what our posts are trying to reflect, and that's a point you're clearly not comprehending.

 

Please make sure that you actually understand this before posting again.

 

tl;dr MAKING SCRIPTS LIKE INFINITE AMMO AND USING THEM TO CREATE A VIDEO ON A PRIVATE, LOCKED, SERVER IS NOT CHEATING IN ANY WAY WHATSOEVER.

[weparo 613]

There is no relation whatsoever. You really should read up on the difference before posing, because techically, nobody "hacks" in DayZ, that's just a term. It's all scripting. And arma 2 was DESIGNED around scripting

j

 YES! YES! that is just what i said! hence I said : scripts can be a cheat. CAN BE. IT DEPENDS ON HOW YOU USE THEM. And I feel that in this video the unlimited ammo script is a cheat because you are supposed to have 15 rounds in the magazine. with the script you have unlimited. -> cheat

[Zero Cool 35]

If you expect me to assume these people go into a private server, splurge on these powers and then leave it at that, thats one thing.

 

But you cant post a vid of admin doing this and expect me not to think its sketchy.

 

I expect you to understand that this video was created with the purpose of making fun of certain people, who took it for what it was ... a joke ... ( The definition of "Parody") and at no time was normal gameplay effected on the public servers 

 

If you cant find it within yourself to comprehend the words you see on your screen then please, with all due haste, return your computer to the store from whence it came. 

[Zero Cool 35]

 YES! YES! that is just what i said! hence I said : scripts can be a cheat. CAN BE. IT DEPENDS ON HOW YOU USE THEM. And I feel that in this video the unlimited ammo script is a cheat because you are supposed to have 15 rounds in the magazine. with the script you have unlimited. -> cheat

 

It can only be considered a "cheat" if a player or players were "cheated" out of an enjoyable experience from normal gameplay. As this was NOT done on a server where people were actually trying to play the game it can NOT be considered a "cheat"

[weparo 613]

Making a plane patrol an area is hardly a script. I'm talking about scripts people have created, such as infinite ammo.

 

You clearly have not been reading my previous posts. Using a script as such, to create and produce a video on a private, locked, server is not in any way whatsoever hacking. Not in the least, and you need  to understand that before you go off calling them hackers, and cheaters. That's what our posts are trying to reflect, and that's a point you're clearly not comprehending.

 

Please make sure that you actually understand this before posting again.

 

tl;dr MAKING SCRIPTS LIKE INFINITE AMMO AND USING THEM TO CREATE A VIDEO ON A PRIVATE, LOCKED, SERVER IS NOT CHEATING IN ANY WAY WHATSOEVER.

 

OK, let me redefine. You are not a cheater. certainly not a hacker (no sarcasm intended). Then let me tell you what I don't approve of. YOUR M9 HAVING 150+ ROUNDS WHEN IT IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE 15. And you scripted around that. And that's my problem. you not sticking to the fact that the average m9 mag has 15 rounds. and that what I don't like. Wether you call that a script, a cheat or a hack, i don't care. The problem is you m9 having more than 15 rounds

[tommy290 941]

 YES! YES! that is just what i said! hence I said : scripts can be a cheat. CAN BE. IT DEPENDS ON HOW YOU USE THEM. And I feel that in this video the unlimited ammo script is a cheat because you are supposed to have 15 rounds in the magazine. with the script you have unlimited. -> cheat

 

¹cheatverb \ˈchēt\

: to break a rule or law usually to gain an advantage at something

: to take something from (someone) by lying or breaking a rule

: to prevent (someone) from having something that he or she deserves or was expecting to get

 

No rules/laws were broken as all parties agreed to participate; no advantages were gained

Nothing was taken from another player

Noone was prevented from having something

 

This was not cheating in the least.

[beavis_5000 111]

Your opinion is as irrelevant as it is wrong

Every admin of every server has access to one or more tools that allows them to have an advantage of players. Every time you log on to any server you are trusting that these tools will not be abused

 

Most people understand that

 

 

 

 

 

Whats not wrong is people will see that in a Musty and assume thats how you guys do things.

[weparo 613]

It can only be considered a "cheat" if a player or players were "cheated" out of an enjoyable experience from normal gameplay. As this was NOT done on a server where people were actually trying to play the game it can NOT be considered a "cheat"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheating

 

In this case the goal is to put 150 round in a guy. The unmoral advantage is to not beeing limited to magazine size and ammo count. Rules: M9 has a 15 round mag. the guy in the vid didn't. => Rule breaking => cheat.

[kichilron 8550]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheating

 

In this case the goal is to put 150 round in a guy. The unmoral advantage is to not beeing limited to magazine size and ammo count. Rules: M9 has a 15 round mag. the guy in the vid didn't. => Rule breaking => cheat.

 

Like I pointed out earlier in this thread and funnily enough taken from your link being the first sentence in that very wikipedia-article:

 

 

 

 

Cheating refers to an immoral way of achieving a goal. It is generally used for the breaking of rules to gain unfair advantage in a competitive situation.

Edited November 9, 2013 by kichilron