Dear Rocket and his team, no private hives, please.

[Inception. 9443]

SNIP

 

I see. However my original point was that I didn't like the self-bloodbag option, so it doesn't particularly matter anymore.

[Jex 1104]

I see. However my original point was that I didn't like the self-bloodbag option, so it doesn't particularly matter anymore.

 

So what you're saying is that you should have just said

 

"I don't like the self bagging idea"

 

And be done with it?

[Inception. 9443]

So what you're saying is that you should have just said

 

"I don't like the self bagging idea"

 

And be done with it?

 

I have stated previously that I despise the option. It makes things too easy. 

Adding the option in doesn't necessarily make the game more realistic.

Edited October 18, 2013 by Inception.

[Jex 1104]

I have stated previously that I despise the option. It makes things too easy. 

Adding the option in doesn't necessarily make the game more realistic.

 

Both are demonstrably false. How is it any less easy than eating a cow? If it takes 5 minutes to do, it makes the process risky. Right now it's too easy and too quick, so presumably you support a much longer application to the current model.

 

Adding the option definitely makes it more realistic - I'm at a loss to even begin to understand how this could be anything else. You do know you can self BB in real life, right?

[Inception. 9443]

Both are demonstrably false. How is it any less easy than eating a cow? If it takes 5 minutes to do, it makes the process risky. Right now it's too easy and too quick, so presumably you support a much longer application to the current model.

 

Adding the option definitely makes it more realistic - I'm at a loss to even begin to understand how this could be anything else. You do know you can self BB in real life, right?

 

Haha, I know not the reason for which I posted said comment, ...doesn't necessarily make it more realistic. So disregard it.

[Jex 1104]

Haha, I know not the reason for which I posted said comment, ...doesn't necessarily make it more realistic. So disregard it.

 

lol ok

 

Pass me the bottle ;)

[Inception. 9443]

lol ok

 

Pass me the bottle ;)

 

Tsk tsk.

[Spikér 136]

As long as we don't get the whole fiasco that's going on with the Origins mod, I am happy either way tbh.

 

When Modders of a Mod start claiming sole rights to said work, things are clearly going astray 

[sausagekingofchicago 4711]

There's not much point in any of the changes the devs are making to the zombies, loot, environment, health system, etc if every kid with 20 bucks can open a server with starting gear that negates most of the challenge.  They might as well just release a bunch of really simple modding tools and an empty map if they hope to see a bunch of crap servers.

[pegruder 1]

I play my private hive server completely stock vanilla, with the exception of the Sarge AI.  I keep heli patrols off, and all AI on a rare chance so you keep that alone feeling with that slight chance youll run in to a pack of bandits.  I mainly started my own server due to all the bugs.  It would ruin the game for a zombie to clip through a wall and knock me unconscious and kill me, or worse yet, the zombie with no hit boxes that no matter how many times you swing your hatchet or machete, you swing right through him.  Not cool.  I think the other mods seem like a cool idea, although I haven't played any of them yet.  All in all, although Im late to the party on Dayz (I only even HEARD about it back in June/July) its probably the only game I've logged this many hours on in such a short amount of time.

[Dekkymane 145]

I play my private hive server completely stock vanilla, with the exception of the Sarge AI.  I keep heli patrols off, and all AI on a rare chance so you keep that alone feeling with that slight chance youll run in to a pack of bandits.  I mainly started my own server due to all the bugs.  It would ruin the game for a zombie to clip through a wall and knock me unconscious and kill me, or worse yet, the zombie with no hit boxes that no matter how many times you swing your hatchet or machete, you swing right through him.  Not cool.  I think the other mods seem like a cool idea, although I haven't played any of them yet.  All in all, although Im late to the party on Dayz (I only even HEARD about it back in June/July) its probably the only game I've logged this many hours on in such a short amount of time.

Good man B) Problem is if Rocket releases private hives, it's like giving a tank to a complete GTA addict B) Rocket can't stop them from completely modding the game.

Edited October 18, 2013 by Dekkymane

[AbhChallenger 4]

I fully agree with no Private Hives. While it did help fix a few problems. It was a band aid approach and a band aid infected with "OVER 9000 Vechicles! Self Blood baG!!11 full loadout on donation!!111"

 

Being standalone. There are plenty of ways to encourage players not to play logoff games or server hopping. There is no need for private hives to deal with that.

 

That being said. FAR into the future and well after V 1.0 I would like to see some way for other people to make their own games using the DayZ engine. However it has to be made clear that they can not call their work "DayZ" and their experience has to be sufficiently different from the main game and not just "MAP IS FULL OF CHOPPAS!!!!11"

[xalienax 621]

I don't see what the problem is.  If you don't like private hives don't play on them.

QFT.

 

The main problem I have with no private hives, No this no that etc. is that at least in the mod ROCKET ISNT PAYING FOR THE SERVERS. YOU ARENT PAYING FOR THE SERVERS. THE CLANS AND DONORS ARE.

 

If the business model for SA with have Individuals and clans again PAYING FOR THE SERVERS then you MUST ALLOW

-Kick to make room for owners/members/doners.

-kick for MERE SUSPICION OF SCRIPTING. If im paying I SET THE STANDARD OF PROOF FOR KICKING/BANNING FROM MY SERVER. PERIOD.

 

I was an admin on an "Offical" server for some time and you don't know how much pure HELL it was when it was so obvious the it was this person or that but without it coming up in logs your hands being tied per the hosting agreement. UTTER BS. ROCKET PAY THE BILL OR ROCKET MAKES NO RULES.

 

I do how ever have no problem with the exceedingly exploitable "tools" that allow you to spawn or teleport your self on the fly being removed.

[napalmdog 71]

Dekkymane, what a totally egregious and horrible idea! If you don't like a sever, well don't play on that server!

 

Yes, let's take away all options for the creative people in this community, any options to make their own playground, any option to make their own maps, simply because you don't like it!

 

If you like vanilla, play that. You will have hundreds of servers to do so. Simply wiping out other players options is kinda self-centered on your part...

[fakeblood 2]

And I take it unless your problem is other people having the fun the way they like is that you have the assumption it thins out the players on the servers. Then I would say there are a lot of people who may not play at all\if not as much if there are no private hives\custom servers.

[Jex 1104]

As a lone wolf myself, I prefer there to be no self bloodbag option; as you said, those who play alone should be at a disadvantage.

 

By definition those that play alone are already at a disadvantage because they are....alone! There's no reasonable argument that can be sustained that if you can do something to another person you can pretty much do it to yourself (in the case of blood bagging, I know a paramedic who says the procedure is a piece of piss). I've already stated my reasons for it earlier and how it should be changed but I've yet to hear a reasonable argument as to why being on your own should be any more of a disadvantage than it already is.

[Inception. 9443]

By definition those that play alone are already at a disadvantage because they are....alone! There's no reasonable argument that can be sustained that if you can do something to another person you can pretty much do it to yourself (in the case of blood bagging, I know a paramedic who says the procedure is a piece of piss). I've already stated my reasons for it earlier and how it should be changed but I've yet to hear a reasonable argument as to why being on your own should be any more of a disadvantage than it already is.

The comment's three months old, I am not interested in this topic anymore. Apologies. 

Edited January 17, 2014 by Inception.

[madmark 0]

My only pleasure with Private servers is the introduction of some roaming Ai to liven up the place. Dayz zombies are just no challenge and only serve to annoy me. I need something other than sitting in the woods all day looking at the mushrooms. Been there done that!

From the moment the stand alone was announced all I have wanted is exciting/challenging (for the right reason) Zombies.

However I am begining to be sceptical on that front at present!

Also Dayz.com did nothing to detract Hackers. I had given up playing until White list arrived.

If no Private severs is the way forward then there better be some serious protection or forget it!

Edited January 17, 2014 by mad mark

[Merc13 11]

I'm surprised people hate  private hives so much. Without them  some players may stop playing, but more likely they will join your role playing servers and pop you in the head while your looking through your third town hoping to find a box of matches. I don't like the pay for starting loadouts and armoured vehicle crap, but I don't find looking through endless locations for hardly any payout all that exciting either. Throw in some bandits and hard to find gear and I fail to see where the fun is unless you can reasonably kit yourself up to have a chance. It's bad enough that Dayz is glitchy and you die from random events that might and do ruin all the work you just did without making up some rules to punish you as well. I play mostly Namalsk and Overwatch servers and try to stay away from the more ridiculous ones, but there is no easy mode in a game where people kit up with decent military gear in relatively little time. Think people-no private hives=more randy bandit types roaming your vanilla servers and all that goes with that.