Does anyone even remember what DayZ is?

[Xianyu 820]

Does anyone even remember vanilla DayZ at this point?

 

It seems the only thing left is alternate maps with 400+ vehicles, 20 helicopters, extra weapon spawns, start with hatchet and knife, a pistol, bandages, food and water.

 

When I think of DayZ, that's what I'm starting to think of. Those garbage, watered-down servers built for casual gamers. The worst kind of casual gamers.

 

I have nothing against casual gamers, but I sure have a chip on my shoulder for them ever since they started invading DayZ. They've watered down the entire experience, completely.

 

Servers that operate in a 'vanilla' state are largely ignored now. They're left in favour of these casual servers with quick thrills and cheap action. Dare I say 'CoD serves'.

 

The entire point of a DayZ encounter is that it's risky. You've spent days collecting all that junk you're carrying. You've killed zombies and people for that gear. You've run clear across the map to get all that stuff. You're attached to it, it's yours.

 

Nowadays, when you die, you just ran through Elektro and looted all the bodies. So your character has no worth. Survival is a joke. You're not fighting the elements and the zombies. You're not surviving the world. You're surviving whatever CoD player looking for cheap thrills is shooting at you. The metagame has become the biggest obstacle to survival.

 

When was the last time any of you crept on your stomach through a zombie-infested field towards a house, praying that there would be a makarov in there?

 

When was the last time that you heard a footstep too ordered and quick to be a zombie and just about shit your pants?

 

When was the last time you heard gunfire in the distance and ran away from it because you didn't want to lose your gear?

 

 

 

But don't worry. You've got 400 vehicles, 20 helicopters, 24/7 daylight, and donation weapons to keep you happy with the CoD-servers.

 

The standalone cannot come soon enough.

[mphilippa 43]

What zone are you in?

[King of kong 1117]

I agree.....

[Statik (DayZ) 2695]

There's plenty of Vanilla servers, or servers close to it.

 

I've seen too many of this posts, and it's starting to bother me how people are pissed because they "can't find a vanilla server", yet they aren't willing to take the time to look for one.

[Inception. 9443]

Not this discussion again...

[misho_p@hotmail.com 31]

There are not many of those vanilla servers to be honest. I tried hosting a hardcore server for a month or so, reduced ammo spawns, removed high end military loot etc aswell as some nifty graphical changes but in a months time I had about 5 unique players. People don´t want the hardcore anymore, they want the easy run and gun with a little bit of looting at the beginning, it´s sad really and I hope that SA will once more give birth to all those feelings of unsafety, fear and real care to every step you take.

[Xianyu 820]

There are not many of those vanilla servers to be honest. I tried hosting a hardcore server for a month or so, reduced ammo spawns, removed high end military loot etc aswell as some nifty graphical changes but in a months time I had about 5 unique players. People don´t want the hardcore anymore, they want the easy run and gun with a little bit of looting at the beginning, it´s sad really and I hope that SA will once more give birth to all those feelings of unsafety, fear and real care to every step you take.

This is exactly what I mean.

 

It's not a case of individuals being unable to find vanilla servers to play on, but rather the entire mentality of the community has gone over to run-n-gun.

 

Why bother with a vanilla server when you can have instant gratification at your disposal?

[-Gews- 7443]

It's not even just DayZ, the infection is spreading... most of the Wasteland servers I've tried now have Strykers and BRDMs spawning in every village...

[JIJOK 49]

Not this discussion again...

 

yup, silly discussion never dies , anyway all I remeber from old dayz were super fast zeds  so cool 

[toxicsludge 406]

DayZ aint DayZ no more...

 

Best live with it or move on to something else...

[landfish 62]

This is what happens when you give people too much choice. Your vision of an intense zombie survival mmo transforms into a shoot'em up with high-end military weapons and thousand of vehicles.

Edited September 10, 2013 by landfish

[meat pie 632]

In my day you had to use tin cans as distractions for zombies so I could live,now you just shoot them with the dmr you start the server with.

[GOD™ 2795]

DayZ was a social experiment.

 

Then it became popular and everything went to shit.

[misho_p@hotmail.com 31]

In my day you had to use tin cans as distractions for zombies so I could live,now you just shoot them with the dmr you start the server with.

 

Those were the days, it was so satisfactory when you actually managed to sneak trough a dark Cherno and slowly loot all the buildings, coming out with, if you were lucky even a makarov with one or two mags, a winchester with slugs was like hitting the jackpot! Hell even waterbottles were a good prize! Now there´s soda everywhere...

 

I´d be more than happy setting up hardcore servers, full expenses on me if only there were some people to play with, unfortunately empty server is not as much fun and even if one mods the the loot for more scarce ammo, the zombies alone are not a factor to be afraid of but what made the original so great were all the people looking for that one gun in town and they were willing to go trough hell to get it.

[Xianyu 820]

I guess the point that didn't come across clearly in my OP was this:

 

DayZ is about the deathmatch now.

 

Not just because the servers are all deathmatch orientated for cheap thrills, not just because the community is leaning that way now, but a combination of both.

 

And most of all, new players get DayZ because of the deathmatch.

 

We're nearing 2 millions unique players.

 

I'm willing to bet that the last 700,000 have been attracted to the deathmatch properties. They got the mod because they saw videos, documentation, etc etc that leads them to beleive that DayZ is a game about killing other players.

 

And while that does hold true in some parts of DayZ, when new players are getting the game, they're getting it to deathmatch. Not to survive zombies. But to deathmatch.

 

And this mentality I fear, will bleed over into the standalone. Heavily.

 

Not because the community is leaning towards 'deathmatch', but because people are getting into DayZ specifically to deathmatch. They're going to play the standalone to deathmatch, as well, because they think it'll be more the same.

 

I only hope that the standalone is brutally impossible, and weeds out all the casual deathmatchers.

 

The DayZ mod is basically a lost cause. No matter what servers you make, the instant gratification of 'high loot' servers will always be there, right alongside the harder, less desirable ones.

 

It's a failing of human nature to want to take the easy road out and get instant gratification, and want to play with others. Combine those two facts, and you've got a mass exodus to the deathmatching servers.

 

I just fear for the future of DayZ as a survival game. Even in the standalone.

 

Just allowing people to mod servers and change server values will lead to the same trend as in the DayZ mod. An exodus to the 'easier' servers with instant gratification eventually leading to the 'true' servers being lost along the way for the most part.

 

And lets make no bones about it. 90% of the servers running right now are not even close to what DayZ was meant to be. And if you truly think they are, then you probably should find a different game. :|

[Inception. 9443]

Yes. This is the unfortunate truth. But everyone is aware of this now.

[DoomsdayClock 34]

Completely agree with this. I remember actually feeling attached to my shitty gear that consisted of an AKM and an M1911 because I actually had to go scavenging to find them myself, as well as the ammo that went with them. Nowadays I join a server and I start with everything that I'll ever need for ages. I also remember me and my friend putting in a ton of effort to fix up a jeep the first time we found one. Nowadays any Johnny Two-Shoes can join a game and find a vehicle and military weapons immediately. 

If I wanted to play a death match game I'd play Battlefield or CoD. 

[Siberian (DayZ) 527]

Dayz Hipsters..

 

" i was into Dayz before it was cool man"..

 

Cool story Bro.

[Xianyu 820]

Dayz Hipsters..

 

" i was into Dayz before it was cool man"..

 

Cool story Bro.

Actually no, this is more like 'DayZ is so watered down now man, we, like, used to have it cool back when you had to actually had to search for weapons'.

 

Though, as I said before. If you think that what we have now is really DayZ, then, and I mean this in the kindest sense possible, kill yourself.

[sarkasm0 109]

I miss when vehicles were actually strange....

[mr_chabowski@live.co.uk 2416]

The simple fact is, the folks who are expecting SA to be anything like their "million vehicles" and "spawn with lightsaber" servers, are going to be SERIOUSLY disappointed.

It'll be awesome. :lol:

 

There will be feet-stamping and there will be tears.

I trust Rocket's plan. And I trust that he's not going to deviate from it to please anyone.

The mod may be dying a death, but our real DayZ experience is just around the corner.

We just have to be patient.

Edited September 10, 2013 by Chabowski

[Korsbaek 1778]

The simple fact is, the folks who are expecting SA to be anything like their "million vehicles" and "spawn with lightsaber" servers, are going to be SERIOUSLY disappointed.

It'll be awesome. :lol:

 

One of the reasons i'm looking forward to the SA. SA is going to sort out all of the "CoD kiddies".

[wild_man 4442]

 

 

...It seems the only thing left is alternate maps with 400+ vehicles, 20 helicopters, extra weapon spawns, start with hatchet and knife, a pistol, bandages, food and water.

 

When I think of DayZ, that's what I'm starting to think of. Those garbage, watered-down servers built for casual gamers. The worst kind of casual gamers....

 

 

 

this stupid servers with bullshit full gear spawn, 1000 helicopter, pay for win?

 

Fantastic :D

 

is put all idiot in one place, is like dickhead filter catch all idiot so main hive is popular only with real player :thumbsup:  B)

 

this way we don't need to see this retard guys :P

 

and best thing is when SA come all this lazy stupid guys are fucked for sure, like shoot fish in the bath ;)

Edited September 10, 2013 by KoS

[timedance 120]

thats what I am always talking about... remove this hightech-military-gear from dayZ !

DayZ feels like COD in the last time...

[timedance 120]

thats what I am always talking about... remove this hightech-military-gear from dayZ !

DayZ feels like COD in the last time...

 

the main goals are always:

 

- find a vehicle/ heli

- shoot other players