New patch coming soon to dayz

[p4triot 207]

As I always said the M107 and AS50 need to be more rarer, but not by decreasing the % spawn rate (this, simply, doesn't work at all. People just farm those weapons on empty servers if needed), but by smth more complex. It is about calculating the total of 'played' AS50 & M107 going around and returning a spawn rate base on that. If no one have those weapons, the first one finding a Heli Crash will surely find them in it. After many people have this weapons, the spawn rate decreases, even to 0.

Just by teaching the mod what a 'played' weapons is, maybe based on the number of hours online this weapons acumulate. Because if a character with an AS50 hasn't been playing for the last year... well, we could say this AS50 "doesn't exist".

I would like to see something like this instead of just removing those weapons completely from the game.

[v3c1c 86]

really how many of you used m107 or as50 to kill zeds ? these two are pure PvP for lazy dudes who saw target in ~1km and just sniped harmless dude.

It is way more interesting to PvP with less powerful guns - when you need to track target or ambush some one.

with m107 and as50 you will never be in range to ask is he friendly or not. Its become just stupid, boring people killing and thats all.

And dudes with those two guns are 99,99% noob combatlogers

[thelonewarrior 886]

The problem with those rifles is it does become just shoot fish in a barrel game

Firstly I don't know if I agree on their removal or not, it had advantages as disadvantages eiether way

But come on, it's far more interesting firing at 400m at each other with Enfields and assault rifles than aiming at and killing someone that has a macrov from 1000m

[tajjuk 65]

I've never found an As50 or M107 on a public hive, think you lot have been playing the wrong private hives if you think these things aren't very rare. Whilst I like the crafting idea why would all found weapons suddenly have no attachments? Makes no sense.

[Ozer 57]

As I always said the M107 and AS50 need to be more rarer, but not by decreasing the % spawn rate (this, simply, doesn't work at all. People just farm those weapons on empty servers if needed), but by smth more complex. It is about calculating the total of 'played' AS50 & M107 going around and returning a spawn rate base on that. If no one have those weapons, the first one finding a Heli Crash will surely find them in it. After many people have this weapons, the spawn rate decreases, even to 0.

Just by teaching the mod what a 'played' weapons is, maybe based on the number of hours online this weapons acumulate. Because if a character with an AS50 hasn't been playing for the last year... well, we could say this AS50 "doesn't exist".

I would like to see something like this instead of just removing those weapons completely from the game.

Your mechanic is a fail either. The purpose of that game is to enjoy the process of surviving. Farming loot for about a half of the day and then wandering about and crying "I have a big gun, you all sucks" - just stupid.

I've never found an As50 or M107 on a public hive, think you lot have been playing the wrong private hives if you think these things aren't very rare. Whilst I like the crafting idea why would all found weapons suddenly have no attachments? Makes no sense.

The problem is obvious - scriptkiddies. Nearly each of them has dat shit. It's better to remove them entirely (I hope they'd gone in the next patch).

Edited May 16, 2013 by Ozer

[p4triot 207]

Your mechanic is a fail either. The purpose of that game is to enjoy the process of surviving. Farming loot for about a half of the day and then wandering about and crying "I have a big gun, you all sucks" - just stupid.

And what did I just say? people farm NOW to get AS50 because of the limitless supply the servers give, no matter how low the % spawn rate is. With my system, if there already exists enough AS50 on the server (or game, or hive. Whatever) the spawn stops. Farming is in this case impossible.

With the actual system, even a 0.1% spawn time renders an unlimited quantity of AS50 over time.

With my system, even a 50% spawn rate will render the AS50 much more rare, because after a maximum set number is achieve, the weapon stops spawning until some of those weapons disappears from the DB.

So "farming loot for about a half of the day" is precisely what we're avoiding with this.

[Ozer 57]

And what did I just say? people farm NOW to get AS50 because of the limitless supply the servers give, no matter how low the % spawn rate is. With my system, if there already exists enough AS50 on the server (or game, or hive. Whatever) the spawn stops. Farming is in this case impossible.

With the actual system, even a 0.1% spawn time renders an unlimited quantity of AS50 over time.

With my system, even a 50% spawn rate will render the AS50 much more rare, because after a maximum set number is achieve, the weapon stops spawning until some of those weapons disappears from the DB.

So "farming loot for about a half of the day" is precisely what we're avoiding with this.

Join the empty server and find AS50 on the first helicrash. I see your scheme in this way.

Limit weapons by the hive means is not a good idea too, I don't think such weapons can disappear easily. So, hundred of players have it but don't use (it rare, fuck yeah, I'd better store it). And on the other side we don't have them at all.

Anyway IMO long distance combat is out of DayZ mechanic (plus grass problems in RV). CZ550 and M24 are perfectly fitted, for ex.

[BAPBAP 11]

For me Dayz vanilla is kinda what dayz really is and why it becomes so popular, all other variations of Dayz is kinda close to stupid.

Oh, really? For me your answer is kinda close to stupid, because it don't contains any constructive idea.

really how many of you used m107 or as50 to kill zeds ? these two are pure PvP for lazy dudes who saw target in ~1km and just sniped harmless dude.

Lol. You are the genius about killing zeds.

Is there any other weapon, which can stop Ural or choppah fast enough?

Maybe any other weapon, which can kill combat relogger? Maybe your favorite combat move is hitting alt+f4?

Seems so.

It is way more interesting to PvP with less powerful guns - when you need to track target or ambush some one.

Ok, i'm tracked someone, set up the ambush, hit em in the chest or legs with m24 or m40. Whoa! He is shocked and bleeding! Then he hits alt+f4. This is so exciting! I have myself exposed, zeds aggroed, but no profit at all. And what you gonna do when the zeds come to you? Please tell me, are you really like this kind of action?

with m107 and as50 you will never be in range to ask is he friendly or not. Its become just stupid, boring people killing and thats all.

Are you asking any peoples on NWAF everytime are they friendly or not? Or maybe you asking them when you repairing a helo and they are coming from the forest? Or when you see em taking a sniper positions? I'm never asked, because in DayZ my personal space lasts at 800 meters away from me or my team. So, it's looks for you stupid, but for me it's just natural, because i don't want to give any chances. Act like IRL.

And dudes with those two guns are 99,99% noob combatlogers

Dudes from Latvia may think they are europeans, but they are virtually russians.

[joona.kujanen@suomi24.fi 62]

Pfff, BAPBAP would just love having a set of good, old fashioned thermal vision and effective gun to one-shot noobs at coast. I remember your rage posts when thermal vision guns were removed. Only that excuse now is existense of combat loggers, lol.

And just to point out... AS50 is an anti-material rifle. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-materiel_rifle I have wondered why there have been anti-vehicle weapon of this scale in the first place as people tend to misuse these happily.

[v3c1c 86]

Oh, really? For me your answer is kinda close to stupid, because it don't contains any constructive idea.

Lol. You are the genius about killing zeds.

Is there any other weapon, which can stop Ural or choppah fast enough?

Maybe any other weapon, which can kill combat relogger? Maybe your favorite combat move is hitting alt+f4?

Seems so.

Ok, i'm tracked someone, set up the ambush, hit em in the chest or legs with m24 or m40. Whoa! He is shocked and bleeding! Then he hits alt+f4. This is so exciting! I have myself exposed, zeds aggroed, but no profit at all. And what you gonna do when the zeds come to you? Please tell me, are you really like this kind of action?

Are you asking any peoples on NWAF everytime are they friendly or not? Or maybe you asking them when you repairing a helo and they are coming from the forest? Or when you see em taking a sniper positions? I'm never asked, because in DayZ my personal space lasts at 800 meters away from me or my team. So, it's looks for you stupid, but for me it's just natural, because i don't want to give any chances. Act like IRL.

Dudes from Latvia may think they are europeans, but they are virtually russians.

Why I would want to stop chopper or ural in zombie survival game ?! :)

I am not player killer and mostly I kill zeds - and for me it is not so important to get max people kill

Yes I always ask before shooting

"Dudes from Latvia may think they are europeans, but they are virtually russians. " - hope you understand that you are bit retarded ?

[Trizzo 632]

so many strawman

fixed

You mad? no more as50 for your team? and if that tirade and piss poor attempt at ironic flaming was the best defense of the 50 cals it should be clear to all we are better off without!

Edited May 16, 2013 by Trizzo

[BAPBAP 11]

Lol. Kuikka, are you the enlightened one, isn't? Then you can realise the reason i mentioned stopping of ural or chopper in case of M107 and AS50. Wish you luck in this task. And another one - try to read l85 discussion again, you must see my words about .50 cal removing because of your cries, pity whiners.

Why I would want to stop chopper or ural in zombie survival game ?! :)

You like to walk through the zeds, i like to drive or fly over zeds. I need to damage choppers and cars, you don't need. So? What's wrong?

If i'm planning to rob someone, i need to stop em first and rob later, no?

I am not player killer and mostly I kill zeds - and for me it is not so important to get max people kill

Yes I always ask before shooting

Lol. Sometimes i'm connecting to "friendly only" whitelisted servers. There's a bunch of guys, who just running and killing zeds. They running because there's no free vehicles available - someone already fixed them. And you can't stole it, because admins thinks stealing from players is just as bad as killing them.

It's obviously to me, those players don't have any chances on normal public servers. Maybe you too. But for me it's boring like hell.

You mad? no more as50 for your team? and if that tirade and piss poor attempt at ironic flaming was the best defense of the 50 cals it should be clear to all we are better off without!

Another fat troll, who can't handle punctuation.

[thelonewarrior 886]

Maybe they like going on those kind of servers to meet other players then go to dayz servers where pvp is allowed, it's more common than you think

I don't really agree with no pvp friendly only servers but people can play how they want, maybe they want to make some friends and talk to people, this is something you should work on BAPBAP

Coming here and calling someone a fat troll outright is a good way to get yourself banned from the forums, chill out and lose the anger or no one is going to bother reading what you write

[Ozer 57]

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Dudes from Latvia may think they are europeans, but they are virtually russians.

It's useless to have a conversation with you. Just play mod the way you like.

For me DayZ vanilla boring like hell. But who cares?

Edited May 16, 2013 by Ozer

[dappadan95 332]

I hope the AS50 and M107 become banned items

[Lyesalot 0]

Yes remove the items. It's the easy mode for PVP. I use it all the time and feel like i'm cheating.

[Walking Wounded 199]

I have never found either weapon in dayz. I prefer to engage at smaller ranges as it feels more personal and the virtual danger element adds to the enjoyment. i cannot think of once instance where I could achieve more with a anti material rifle than a DMR m24 or similar. of you want to stop a truck shoot its wheels. If you are to far away to do that get some strategy. As for shooting helis.. well it took me 6 hours to get a heli flying.. that work should not be undone by a guy who farms as50's when its 3:00am.. I am glad they are being removed.

@ Bapbap It would seem like you are best off staying on a private server with moded weapons so you can enjoy your way of playing. I am sure there will be plenty of places you can do that after the patch. Plenty of extra weapons on some servers etc etc.

I note that you seem a little bit aggroed and possibly a little special in certain ways. My I suggest you seek some form of recreation that encourages calming thoughts of peace and love.

[BAPBAP 11]

I have never found either weapon in dayz.

Go kill some snipers at south cost, and you'll have it. This is easy enough for anyone, who have an axe and can spend 5 minutes to check most trivial Elektro and Cherno sniper locations on any highly populated server.

I prefer to engage at smaller ranges as it feels more personal and the virtual danger element adds to the enjoyment.

So axe and machete perfectly fits you? If so - you can get your .50 in 5 minutes in Cherno, i can give you a grid coords to check. If you are really good in CQB, of course.

i cannot think of once instance where I could achieve more with a anti material rifle than a DMR m24 or similar.

For me you just missed tactical opportunities due lack of experience.

of you want to stop a truck shoot its wheels. If you are to far away to do that get some strategy.

IRL is nothing better to cripple soft targets than antimateriel rifle (or IED, but there's for some reason no IED's available, only satchels). Do you want to reinvent a wheel?

As for shooting helis.. well it took me 6 hours to get a heli flying.. that work should not be undone by a guy who farms as50's when its 3:00am..

LOOOLN00B Like i'm already said, you just don't have enough experience. Wise guy with or w/o .50 cal in any case gives to you possibility to fix the chopper and will kill you when you just finished refuelling.

@ Bapbap It would seem like you are best off staying on a private server with moded weapons so you can enjoy your way of playing. I am sure there will be plenty of places you can do that after the patch. Plenty of extra weapons on some servers etc etc.

Oh, this is the solution? Great! Thanks for the tip! But.. You know... And how about a little reverse? Why don't you and anyone who dislike PvP staying on friends only mode? Plenty of friends, no .50 cal. Can you enjoy your way of playing there, no?

I note that you seem a little bit aggroed and possibly a little special in certain ways. My I suggest you seek some form of recreation that encourages calming thoughts of peace and love.

Another thanks! You talking like an expert in "special ways". Didn't you already tried this method? How it helped you?

[Dekkymane 145]

No no no! I really don't want fresh spawns to have makarovs. That ruins the 'back story'. I mean, you're a survivor in the apocalypse. And you have a pistol? It's better to scavange for one I think..

[colekern 1364]

Why I would want to stop chopper or ural in zombie survival game ?! :)

I am not player killer and mostly I kill zeds - and for me it is not so important to get max people kill

Yes I always ask before shooting

"Dudes from Latvia may think they are europeans, but they are virtually russians. " - hope you understand that you are bit retarded ?

Why would you want to stop someones playstyle just because you don't like it?

[TIC 1050]

I'm happy they're improving the Study Body function. It'd be great for expert servers :)

[R.J. 70]

I have never found either weapon in dayz. I prefer to engage at smaller ranges as it feels more personal and the virtual danger element adds to the enjoyment. i cannot think of once instance where I could achieve more with a anti material rifle than a DMR m24 or similar. of you want to stop a truck shoot its wheels. If you are to far away to do that get some strategy. As for shooting helis.. well it took me 6 hours to get a heli flying.. that work should not be undone by a guy who farms as50's when its 3:00am.. I am glad they are being removed.

Translation: I want to log in and play without searching for items that require too much time and effort. I'll justify my beliefs and tell other players to "get some strategy" on the basis that I dislike using strategy myself and as a result, die way too often. Since I've never had the opportunity to use weapons such the the M107 or AS50, I'll just go ahead and jump to conclusions and assume using it is equates to shooting fish in a barrel. Man, my crew and I just spent 6 hours fixing this fancy UH1H. Since we spent all of this time on repairs, it's our right to fly around, enter hoverhold over major cities, and open fire on other players without fear of being shot down ourselves. I'm glad they're being removed and if I die to often by an M14 or DMR, I'll start an online poll voicing my displeasure how these weapons are overpowered.

[Walking Wounded 199]

Go kill some snipers at south cost, and you'll have it. This is easy enough for anyone, who have an axe and can spend 5 minutes to check most trivial Elektro and Cherno sniper locations on any highly populated server.

So axe and machete perfectly fits you? If so - you can get your .50 in 5 minutes in Cherno, i can give you a grid coords to check. If you are really good in CQB, of course.

For me you just missed tactical opportunities due lack of experience.

IRL is nothing better to cripple soft targets than antimateriel rifle (or IED, but there's for some reason no IED's available, only satchels). Do you want to reinvent a wheel?

LOOOLN00B Like i'm already said, you just don't have enough experience. Wise guy with or w/o .50 cal in any case gives to you possibility to fix the chopper and will kill you when you just finished refuelling.

Oh, this is the solution? Great! Thanks for the tip! But.. You know... And how about a little reverse? Why don't you and anyone who dislike PvP staying on friends only mode? Plenty of friends, no .50 cal. Can you enjoy your way of playing there, no?

Another thanks! You talking like an expert in "special ways". Didn't you already tried this method? How it helped you?

Thank you for your response fapfap.

1. No!

2. No! (see point 1)

3.No! ..... No missed opertunities. I aim for the head 1 shot = 1 kill I was raised on games that were hard (thats the 1980's).. in fact most were allmost impossible. Easy is just not in my blood.You think I should be shooting heli's out of the sky? thats your game not mine. I have other games for that.

4. Sorry to burst your bubble here its not real life but if you want to compare it to that>>> Have you ever carried a gun of any sort? I have many times and over many many miles. In real life mobile infantry deploy with these weapons (that means without transport its not a viable weapon in operations) so to sum it up...No!

5. No! (see post 3)

6.No! the changes are coming and it is you who is crying about your precious gun. shoulders back, chin up and be a man.

7. No!

8. < there is no point 8 but can you fix your translator please. Reading your posts is like eating soup with a fork.

[Tr1x 53]

i'm starting to think this update's not gonna come out until after standalone

[Walking Wounded 199]

Translation: I want to log in and play without searching for items that require too much time and effort. I'll justify my beliefs and tell other players to "get some strategy" on the basis that I dislike using strategy myself and as a result, die way too often. Since I've never had the opportunity to use weapons such the the M107 or AS50, I'll just go ahead and jump to conclusions and assume using it is equates to shooting fish in a barrel. Man, my crew and I just spent 6 hours fixing this fancy UH1H. Since we spent all of this time on repairs, it's our right to fly around, enter hoverhold over major cities, and open fire on other players without fear of being shot down ourselves. I'm glad they're being removed and if I die to often by an M14 or DMR, I'll start an online poll voicing my displeasure how these weapons are overpowered.

This is a very good conclusion from some very good observations. Unfortunately for you its more wrong than jimmy saville.

I spent the last 2 days and half of tonight on origins searching for AK sd ammo. I managed to find an AK with underslung and want SD ammo for quiet looting. So thats that point smegged nto oblivion.

I play alone. always have always will (some random loot runs with others over time accepted of course) I have no freinds in my chopper to shoot anyone with hence my humanity being 4620. Again sunk your ship of failed assumptions.

I do die often I play hero its risky. I am happy with that it is not a result of lack of strategy and actually given that on many occasions I have beaten groups of 2/3 bandits armed with your trollguns you should consider yourself lucky I am no bandit.

I am killed by quite a good mix of weapons that is what happens when you experience the full shebang. You know most good bandits seek the hero status at some point... it offers higher risks and greater challenges. when boys become men

_)

Anyway who says I have not fired those weapons??? that is a silly assumption based on what? this sentance ( I have never found either weapon in dayz)??? right so every weapon I ever used I found...

Go to bed young man. Sleep and rest weary mind for it misguides your fingers ;)

Edited May 17, 2013 by Walking Wounded