ROCKET. Playing with friends question (Standalone)

[Fraggle (DayZ) 15720]

I'd like a system where the more someone tries to respawn in a "nice" location the further out to sea they appear. Eventually they will either learn or quit out of frustration.

[OrLoK 16186]

Go play WarZ.

No. Just no.

We have to lift ourselves above lazy comment's like this that serve no purpose in any informed discussion. I'm almost tempted to mark this as spam.

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[on3c3nt 185]

Lot's of games now have plenty of support for groups, especially steam ones. One of you creates a group, the rest join in, and the leader of the group choses the server, the map, the team, etc. (Killing Floor, L4D, BF, Aliens...).

I think this game needs something similar,

Lots of games now have Tanks and Jets, that does not mean DayZ needs something similar.

[Fraggle (DayZ) 15720]

Yeh, lot's of games are shite too.

[dallas 5195]

Standalone needs to be harder not easier and I fully support that spam-respawn-cooldown-into-the-ocean-timer.

The faster you teach your teammates to read a map, the easier you guys can hook up.

[djshauny1 222]

You're playing it wrong

How did i know id get such a response?

No, im not playing it wrong, i dont want to have to waste 30 mins meeting up.

Only fanboys would suggest otherwise.

[djshauny1 222]

There will be lot's of please from the casual gaming community. Hopefully they will all get ignored, the market is saturated with games aimed at casual gamers so it's not like the don;t have anything else to do.

Casual?

Theres nothing casual about wanting to start with friends.

The game is allready super tough as it is

How would a party system make things super easy?

It wont

[djshauny1 222]

Standalone needs to be harder not easier and I fully support that spam-respawn-cooldown-into-the-ocean-timer.

The faster you teach your teammates to read a map, the easier you guys can hook up.

We all know the map

Everyone is completely missing the point of what im getting at

At the end of the day its a GAME!!!!

No 1 plays games to get pissed off with bad execution.

There are many reasons why people have stopped playing the mod

Like it or not, the lack of meeting up with players is one of them.

Edited March 16, 2013 by nicefish

[Fraggle (DayZ) 15720]

Casual?

Theres nothing casual about wanting to start with friends.

The game is allready super tough as it is

How would a party system make things super easy?

It wont

I didn't say it would make things super easy, i said it would appeal to the casual gamer, and I hope DayZ never goes down that road. As I said, the market is saturated with games designed for the casual gamer so it's not like they're being discriminated against.

DayZ became popular because it offers something different, not because it appeals to the masses. It is, and always should be a game where patience is rewarded, it's never been a game you jump into for a quick fix. It's one of those games you make some time for. If you don't have the time to do that then find another game or wait until you do, there's plenty others to choose from.

Anyhoo, Rocket has talked about group spawns in the past but it was a long time ago and I have no idea how he feels about it now.

Groups already have an advantage by the very nature of being a group and being able to pool resources, heal each other ect, I just can't see the need to tip the scales even further in their favour. For one life, you only spawn on the beach once, that's it. It's going to be a pretty rare event that you and a few friends will all die at once and want to spawn together and if you do, well the punishment for all dying at the same time should be being split up again, it really doesn't take long to hook up.

Do not be upset, this is just my opinion.

Edited March 16, 2013 by Fraggle

[shadowjack 254]

We all know the map

Everyone is completely missing the point of what im getting at

At the end of the day its a GAME!!!!

No 1 plays games to get pissed off with bad execution.

There are many reasons why people have stopped playing the mod

Like it or not, the lack of meeting up with players is one of them.

Correct at the end of the day it is a game, and no one plays for the enjoyment of others. Well ... i don't anyway.

Getting pissed of is your choice. If it gets to that point take a blow. Hell i even get a kick out of the random hacker deaths. I take it as part of the unknown factor that you never know what will happen next. Adapt and overcome.

There are many reasons folks stop playing and many of those same reasons why folks continue to play or new folks come on board.

No one game will make everyone happy. Your job as a player is to find the game that gives you the best bang for your leisure time.

[p4triot 207]

I didn't say it would make things super easy, i said it would appeal to the casual gamer, and I hope DayZ never goes down that road. As I said, the market is saturated with games designed for the casual gamer so it's not like they're being discriminated against.

DayZ became popular because it offers something different, not because it appeals to the masses. It is, and always should be a game where patience is rewarded, it's never been a game you jump into for a quick fix. It's one of those games you make some time for. If you don't have the time to do that then find another game or wait until you do, there's plenty others to choose from.

Anyhoo, Rocket has talked about group spawns in the past but it was a long time ago and I have no idea how he feels about it now.

Groups already have an advantage by the very nature of being a group and being able to pool resources, heal each other ect, I just can't see the need to tip the scales even further in their favour. For one life, you only spawn on the beach once, that's it. It's going to be a pretty rare event that you and a few friends will all die at once and want to spawn together and if you do, well the punishment for all dying at the same time should be being split up again, it really doesn't take long to hook up.

Do not be upset, this is just my opinion.

As it is today, groups just suicide until all them are close one to another. If you automate this you may save some resources avoiding a crapy lot of useless dead bodies all around.

[djshauny1 222]

I didn't say it would make things super easy, i said it would appeal to the casual gamer, and I hope DayZ never goes down that road. As I said, the market is saturated with games designed for the casual gamer so it's not like they're being discriminated against.

DayZ became popular because it offers something different, not because it appeals to the masses. It is, and always should be a game where patience is rewarded, it's never been a game you jump into for a quick fix. It's one of those games you make some time for. If you don't have the time to do that then find another game or wait until you do, there's plenty others to choose from.

Anyhoo, Rocket has talked about group spawns in the past but it was a long time ago and I have no idea how he feels about it now.

Groups already have an advantage by the very nature of being a group and being able to pool resources, heal each other ect, I just can't see the need to tip the scales even further in their favour. For one life, you only spawn on the beach once, that's it. It's going to be a pretty rare event that you and a few friends will all die at once and want to spawn together and if you do, well the punishment for all dying at the same time should be being split up again, it really doesn't take long to hook up.

Do not be upset, this is just my opinion.

Dude im not upset lol. This is an internet forum.

I dont think it would make it appealing to casuals at all mate. Because even if there was such a invite system in place, its still tough out there, this is what i dont want to be taken away, at all.

Just making it easier to meet up with a friend is all im asking.

And i wouldnt want say, a party of 8 etc. Just a system where you could invite 1 friend, 2 tops.

Edited March 16, 2013 by nicefish

[TheDesigner 1197]

DayZ has always been about survival and working hard to achieve your goals. If you can't survive long enough to meet up with a friend, I'm sorry, you're just bad at the game.

Running for 30 minutes is a major part of DayZ. You're supposed to hate those long hikes to places, because in real life it takes a long time and is sometimes boring, but also that in this scenario, as a simulation, you would hate running that distance. You consume a lot of food and water to get from Cherno to NWAF and it's a pain in the ass.

If you take away these two key aspects, you end up with CareBearZ. I've never and I mean never had problems meeting up with people. Maybe in this game I just have good instincts, I know the paths to take, what to look out for, and how much supplies I need. Supporting people who are just bad at surviving because they do the same thing over and over again is a bad game design.

I also agree with what Fraggle said, this isn't a casual gamers game where you pop in and survive for 7 days. My first time playing I got stuck on a roof by a load of zombies at night, I had my last flare burning and one hand grenade. I threw the flare down the ladder, all the zombies were around it. Lucky me, I had a hand grenade. I threw it, but being new to ArmA I didn't back up. Instantly killed me.

The above story represents how a new survivor in the world of DayZ would die pretty quickly, but as you play the game you become that guy who knows what the hell he is doing. You laugh at the guys being chased by 30 zombies through Cherno because you were once that guy.

Edited March 16, 2013 by TheDesigner

[creature 1189]

If you can spawn in with your friend, I should be allowed to spawn into the NW airfield right?

Why not? I don't like running that far so it should be incorporated into the game, right?

If they add that for you, what's next? Fast travel to Starry 'cuz it's far away? Spawn with a Ural 'cuz there are 5 in your group? Free kittens?

[Fraggle (DayZ) 15720]

As it is today, groups just suicide until all them are close one to another. If you automate this you may save some resources avoiding a crapy lot of useless dead bodies all around.

Nah, I'd make a punishment for suiciding, like not being allowed back into the server for 10 mins, that'll save resources too.

Edited March 16, 2013 by Fraggle

[djshauny1 222]

If you can spawn in with your friend, I should be allowed to spawn into the NW airfield right?

Why not? I don't like running that far so it should be incorporated into the game, right?

If they add that for you, what's next? Fast travel to Starry 'cuz it's far away? Spawn with a Ural 'cuz there are 5 in your group? Free kittens?

You are being stupid.

I said just for meeting up with mate ONLY AT THE COAST.

I dont know why im even replying to you.

What a bitter community this is.

Edited March 16, 2013 by nicefish

[ponc 100]

NO BIRTHDAYS.

also, here is a video of hellmarch:

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[djshauny1 222]

NO BIRTHDAYS.

also, here is a video of hellmarch:

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Thanks for the detailed input

[Roark92 90]

Wow. nicefish is right what the hell is wrong with this community?

Stop ENTIRELY ignoring the point he is making just to appease your own views on whats right. Most of you act like some this is some covenant and that any suggestion contrary to popular belief is blasphemy. And ganging up on someone for stating their opinion openly (its called a forum for a reason) and belittling their ideas is shameful.

He's making a god damn suggestion about something he feels the game could benefit from. He therefore can't be "wrong", but that doesn't make him "right" either.

It's for discussion, not instant put downs and outright disrespect. He has been nothing but reasonable, and the thread he has made was legitimate and not inflammatory, so show some god damn respect and humility and get off your high horses.

I won't say you all are unreasonable and rude, for that in itself would be unreasonable and rude, as well as untrue. But a concerning number of you evidently are.

[jovial 17]

How about a compromise? Give us a choice to spawn in one of three locations, for example location 1 being anything between Kamenka and Balota, location 2 being between Cherno and Kamyshovo, location 3 being between Solnichniy and Berezino.

It would still require running, but would cut down a bit on it. Usually I'm all for making the game experience harder, but this is one area where I think we could use some slack.

[djshauny1 222]

People completely miss the popint of a party system. When its mentioned people say its not needed and defend the dayz game like its thier mother.

Pathetic.

[Aporis 422]

I feel your pain. I wouldn't mind being able to choose where at on the shore to spawn so you can at least spawn in a little closer to friends. I haven't heard any mention of it, but I think there will be a pretty big plea from the casual gaming community who only play 1-2 hours at a time for some sort of system like that.

this game is not for casual people

[Aporis 422]

You are being stupid.

I said just for meeting up with mate ONLY AT THE COAST.

I dont know why im even replying to you.

What a bitter community this is.

just by meeting at coast that would make cherno and elektro even bigger war zones as they are now, because if players have the freedom of choosing where they spawn? No one is going to spawn to Kamenka, komarovo, kamyshovo or solnichniy because those are far away from everything. only spawns near elekro and cherno would be chosen by players because of quick loot. Though don't know what would happen because of the even harder infected than now currently on dayz mod. (and those pricks are hard) no one knows, as i think even further all i see is infinent amoutn of cons and just few pros

[RosscoMac 75]

I can only see it working one way. You both choose to spawn together and you get whatever random location the game gives you just like now. Nothing else to it. That's what I would like to see so when we start with fresh characters we can team up straight away.

[sausagekingofchicago 4711]

Choosing your spawn point? Spawning with friends?

Smells like a recipe for easy mode deathmatching.