NVG glasses in 1.7.5.1 [warning: spoiler]

[BigglesPiP 6]

I've never found night vision on the ground anyway, I still have mine from the previous version of the mod as I've not died yet, I found these on a ghillie guy I killed.

I thought he was a bandit hunting me with his friend, so I shot him with my Lee Enfield at the T junction north of Elektro, turns out he was a nice guy helping out a new spawn, who after 2 Lee Enfield shots walked forward and began looting his new friend, LOL! I feel bad about that one, sorry ghillie guy. :(

[DemonGroover 8836]

I have only ever found one set of NVG's on the ground. The problem i had (and i realised only after i found them) was i was playing on a 24/7 daytime server!!!

High end military loot should be available but very very rare.

The one problem the mod had/has is that duping of items meant that NVG's, AS50's and the like became common. There was a time where everyone seemed to have them.

Hopefully the SA addresses these problems, rather than removing items from loot tables. Finding NVG's should be a moment of joy, not a "Oh, another pair of NVG's - how nice!"

[frosti 2165]

Can you read? Have you seen the hundreds of posts on this forum by people who want vanilla DayZ servers with no added bullshit? If that were true, why are most of those servers empty? Taking away NVG's will NOT fix the empty servers. It's a simple fact that most people feel "entitled" or think everything should be fair and equal. This is why night servers are empty. You can't blame the mod for that.

IMO most players need to "man up". The reason people flock to 24hr daylight servers isn't because someone may have NVG's it's because they can't see and they find it's too hard.

I have a new server. Set it up vanilla and posted about it. People came on, saw they started with nothing and left. Saw it was night, and left. Never more than 2 players. I switched to 24hr daylight and a Revolver for starting loadout and added 100 vehicles. My server jumped to an average of 10-15 players per night the 1st week. Back to vanilla. empty again.

Don't blame NVG's.

I don't play during night cause there can be someone with NVG's and I don't have them.

[Chips- 58]

Sounds like a hacker trap. They place hacked items and such. I dunno if they set a trigger that when you grab it, it executes a command to teleport you/kill/ect, or if they do it themselves. But it happens.

Nah the tele happened way after, I was north of Cherno running towards Balota. Everyone teleported out there

[jubeidok 495]

Absolutely love seeing posts where people cry about the night because they won't use the tools that are readily available to them in fear of losing their shit. Absolutely love it!

Stop playing a game because it is popular. Star playing games that suit your tastes. This one just isn't accessible to all.

[Udak 104]

Cannot believe more people didn't make the comparison to the L85 AWS. Apparently popular opinion drove that out of the game (good riddance--OP as heck)...it was too one-sided, with nothing to counter it but another l85 AWS. Likewise, the only thing you can counter an NVG with (and still be on the same playing field, you pedants who insist that flares are a legitimate option BECAUSE YOU'VE GOTTEN THE DROP ON A GUY WITH AN NVG) is either another set of NVGs or the ANPVS FAL (which, because you can only look through the 4x scope with, is a lot more balanced--can't quickly scout out an entire field in 3dp). I'm all for getting rid of it.

[Bludy 324]

i'd like to say that crash sites are farmed by helicopters owned by clans/admins on regular base so it doesn't take so much time to collect stuff that way

[sinkatze 52]

NVG are a great tool, I don't think they should be removed, as many players as myself play at night (not like I ever have them though).

But the same way NVG give an advantage at night, its also a high risk to have them, especially with the drop rate being lowered, because people who might see you with them, will kill you for them. So nothing really lasts in DayZ, enjoy them before you die and lose them.

[Bludy 324]

if in the entire loot table there is something for which it is worth killing, that is a pair of nvgs..

[mokum 8]

If you play chernarus maby this can help http://dayzdb.com/map#2.066.065

[com1 10]

remove ghillie/camo suits since its such a big advantage. And bloodbags!

[person915 345]

remove ghillie/camo suits since its such a big advantage. And bloodbags!

LOL... go back and read my super long post. I don't feel like reposting it when it's right on the other page...

[Masterfocker 103]

Cannot believe more people didn't make the comparison to the L85 AWS. Apparently popular opinion drove that out of the game (good riddance--OP as heck)...it was too one-sided, with nothing to counter it but another l85 AWS. Likewise, the only thing you can counter an NVG with (and still be on the same playing field, you pedants who insist that flares are a legitimate option BECAUSE YOU'VE GOTTEN THE DROP ON A GUY WITH AN NVG) is either another set of NVGs or the ANPVS FAL (which, because you can only look through the 4x scope with, is a lot more balanced--can't quickly scout out an entire field in 3dp). I'm all for getting rid of it.

There's a HUUUUUUUUUGE difference between the L85 AWS and NVG's. NVG's let you see in the dark, that's it. The L85 illuminated everything with a heat signature. If you were prone in a field with a lot of grass or behind a tree, you'd likely not be seen with a guy with NVG at a distance. If you're doing that same thing while someone's looking through an AWS, you have no chance. If one cell stuck out of that tree, you'd be fucked.

If NVG's illuminated people like the AWS did,then it'd be OP. Now? No. Especially when people will just turn their brightness and gamma all the way up anyway.

Oh, and the reason people don't like to play at nighttime isn't because they're at a disadvantage because of people with NVG's. It's mainly because Arma's night physics are fucking awful. It's pitch dark every single time, except when there's a full moon, where you have about a foot of visibility. It's never that dark except when there's no moon, and even then, your eyes would adjust. They don't in Arma.

That's why most people don't play nighttime. They don't want to be bothered with the hassle of Arma's stupidness.

Edited February 13, 2013 by Masterfocker

[com1 10]

McCullins seriously you dont sound like you have a clue about all advatages AND disadvantages of NVG. I bet you found nvg once or twice and thats your experience with them.

I was overseen by several people in the night althought they got nvg and I didnt had one. You think you can see everything.... hahaha.

I started hunting noobs in a night with nvg once... bad idea since they through several flares and I didnt know if they were doing this on purpose

To get a advantage with nvg the night have to be pitch black otherwise everyone use gamma/brightness and since nvg limit your view, everyone with increased gamma got a huge advatage over you. 2nd you can use all guns with gamma but you cant with nvg.

In the end there are not many advantages with nvg but every light source is a big disadvantage. Want to kill nvg guys in the night? 2 flares and 5 sec left untill he will be able to see sth again...

i like nvg to drive or to fly a chopper and thats it.

[person915 345]

McCullins seriously you dont sound like you have a clue about all advatages AND disadvantages of NVG. I bet you found nvg once or twice and thats your experience with them.

I was overseen by several people in the night althought they got nvg and I didnt had one. You think you can see everything.... hahaha.

I started hunting noobs in a night with nvg once... bad idea since they through several flares and I didnt know if they were doing this on purpose

To get a advantage with nvg the night have to be pitch black otherwise everyone use gamma/brightness and since nvg limit your view, everyone with increased gamma got a huge advatage over you. 2nd you can use all guns with gamma but you cant with nvg.

In the end there are not many advantages with nvg but every light source is a big disadvantage. Want to kill nvg guys in the night? 2 flares and 5 sec left untill he will be able to see sth again...

i like nvg to drive or to fly a chopper and thats it.

Why don't you quote my post? You're lucky I keep up with my threads. I could have not even found this... what a shame....

Yes, I have had NVGs multiple times. In combat? No, because I wasn't as daft as most to try to engage anyone with them on! I didn't need to. I had eyes from the sky and those pierced more than a bullet of any gun.

First off, most NVG users have a sniper, like a DMR, or stay at a medium/short range out of town. Anything else isn't a disadvantage, it's just stupid. And, mhmm.. you can see everything. If you're in the trees and there's a field next to you, you sure can see everything. Even in that, you can see MUCH MORE than anyone else. And if they're actually using flares, they probably don't have gamma up! So da faq yu talkin bout, cuz dey nevr hav both advantedges on yu et da saiym tyme! Usually. There are always exceptions.

I'd like to think that by not abusing things like gamma, I can actually call myself a player of this game. I mean, that's complete bullshit, turning up your gamma at night. Those guys are weak and don't know what it means to have a "survival" game. I've known how, but I never turn up my gamma. I'd expect a real DayZ player to follow the same example, no matter how shitty night is.

All in all, I'd like to say I DON'T GIVE A FUCK about the disadvantages of players with NVGs. As long as you use the night to be stealthy, and stay a distance, like a logical, tactical, smart survivor with NVGs, it's not about you. It's about Charlie and Sam, the poor survivors that Yulonda harasses all night, and they just can't seem to get a break....

Edited February 14, 2013 by McCullins

[creature 1189]

Well my heli can't catch a break from as50's.

Should be removed I suppose.

Your argument is invalid. People will not play night time regardless of nvg's. Just as a lot of players won't join populated servers.

[erbtype 5]

Good luck with deer stands. Maybe I was unlucky but I did a run of 5 this morning around Bop. 4 were empty and 1 had an M9+2mags.

By browsing dayz code it seems to me that NVG glasses can now only be found at helicopter crash sites, making them extremely rare.

Has anyone found NVG in military objects (tents/hangars/deer stands) ?

_Anubis_

[SkrooLoose (DayZ) 143]

Well my heli can't catch a break from as50's.

Should be removed I suppose.

Your argument is invalid. People will not play night time regardless of nvg's. Just as a lot of players won't join populated servers.

Really? That's all you can come up with? You're not even trying to use common sense anymore.

[bnblue@hotmail.com 40]

Remove NVG's is fine as long as you remove anymore people who ask for more stuff to be removed, or maybe some folks just want us to all to have one weapon choice and no other gear what so ever?

Or is it GPS next or compass both give and advantage surely they must go??

Good luck with deer stands. Maybe I was unlucky but I did a run of 5 this morning around Bop. 4 were empty and 1 had an M9+2mags.

NVG's drop from Barracks/crashed helis and that's it, if people find them anywhere else it's player dropped.

[Gooober 34]

Mccullin.. Can you please post a 2000 word reply next time?

Some1 please wash the sand out of their crack........

Edited February 14, 2013 by Gooober

[Dr. Goner 661]

Well my heli can't catch a break from as50's.

Should be removed I suppose.

Your argument is invalid. People will not play night time regardless of nvg's. Just as a lot of players won't join populated servers.

I agree with some of the previous posts that talk about just how damn dark it is all the time and the fact that a players eyes would adjust. I think that keeps people out of night more than other players with NVGs so you're right on with that statement. But the reason people don't play populated servers is because the lag can get atrocious and they get hacked once every twenty-four hours if not more often than that.

[arkaeldren 53]

Hopefully they'll be removed soon. It's not fair at all to players who don't have them, as those who do have a SERIOUS advantage.

That's the problem.

It means all the 'old' players who have NVG will have a permanent edge because now NVG are nearly impossible to get.

_Anubis_

I still can not believe I just read this. You never have the slightest clue how off the chart peoples opinions can get, until you spend some time in "any" forum. One might think that most people have a relative "like" minded thought process, but wow... I mean you guys really think removing all these items and guns is the answer. Here is a novelty of an idea, go out in search of the crash sites, to loot the rare drops. I know many people dont have tons of time to play games, but the people that do have that time, and take that time to locate rare drop items, deserve to have them. I just cant think of anything more to say about the direction some people are taking, in the name of their personal balance. :huh:

[BCaused 49]

They are far too common though thats the problem.

Not really, just admins that increase the spawn rate of them.

[-Gews- 7443]

First off, most NVG users have a sniper, like a DMR, or stay at a medium/short range out of town.

Heh, I have that setup and I do exactly that.

Also, I only play at night on the public hive <_< too many valuables (GPS, rangefinder, etc) and less hackers.

[Pokey (DayZ) 103]

This whole topic just mirrors any major MMORPG out there. Really, go look at one of their forums, there will be countless posts along the lines of:

"X player owning super duper mace of flange patting Y item isn't fair, as it's incredibly powerful and rare, your average Z player can never ever hope of obtaining item Y, or defeating player X who owns it, thus it should be removed."

This is wrong. The whole idea of removing them is wrong.

Edited February 14, 2013 by Pokey