gloopsgf 35 Posted February 4, 2013 What is the difference between an m107, and a DMR? The DMR knocks you out, and you slowly bleed to death, while the m107 saves you the misery.A military helicopter is sent with a squad of snipers and infantry. The chopper's pilot was bit before takeoff, and the chopper crashes in a field, killing all aboard. Their weapons and equipment remain amongst the wreck. That was a simple exlaination of how the weapons are in the game.I have had helicopters shot down by killers with their as50's. Temporary anger came over me, but in the end I realize it is a game, and the snipers should have fun as well.Why ruin someone elses game style, because you don't know how to stay hidden? Why can't you prepare I die whenever you leave your camp?Sure, getting sniped in Cherno isn't fun. Persistence is key, and you will prevail if you dont give up. Simply avoid major towns, get food and water, then return when everyone is away, gear up, an get revenge.I want to keep these beasts in the game, because life isn't fair, and because I want a challenge. I don't want to fly my helicopter knowing I am invincible. I want to feel danger every step I take.If you want them removed, Here is a list of suitable games:Call of duty FarmVilleCity villaHaloBattle fieldBarbie dress up My little ponyThank you for your time! 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roac 19 Posted February 4, 2013 I don't get what you mean by, "If you want them removed; here is a list of suitable games." So, hypothetically speaking if there was an ULTIMATE-SUPER-LAZER GUN OF BADASSNESS that killed in one hit and could fire through walls, was super overpowered, and i wanted it removed: That i should play FarmVille? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gloopsgf 35 Posted February 4, 2013 I don't think I was talking about a "ultimate-super-lazer gun of badassness." I was talking about a modern sniper rifle. They cannot I through walls, and are not "super overpowered" because whoever is shooting it, can get shot just as easily.Try to read the whole post before posting something ridiculously.... Wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Minamo 114 Posted February 4, 2013 I don't like the AS50 nor the m107 because its a one shot kill, yet it fires like a DMR. especially the AS50 is so accurate.- M107 is a little bit more "fair"? yet on our server we've removed m107 and AS50 and changed them into the Laguna.. for that Bolt action feel ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gloopsgf 35 Posted February 4, 2013 Minamo, thank god, I was beginning to think that only absent minded people read my threads.I can see where you are coming from, and I see you have a certain play style. My play style goes a little as: get a sniper, shoot Cherno snipers, get shot in the face with an as50.Weapons are becoming more and more powerful, and soon the army will need to make Halo style battle armor for the soldiers. If we survive another 30 years, every gun will be 1 shot 1 kill without some sort of armor.People ask for realism, yet want the as50 removed. This makes no logical sense, because even some military vets keep their snipers on display. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
h3retic 224 Posted February 4, 2013 FYI cods usually have a 50cal one shot kill sniper rifles :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
burritoman259 593 Posted February 4, 2013 They will remove a 50.bmg and replace it with something more authentic like a KSVK Amr, or add more addition Russian rifles.I'm not saying it will happen to the AS50 or the m107 in the mod but in standalone anything is possible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sausagekingofchicago 4711 Posted February 4, 2013 No skill weapons require no skill. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CreepySalad 108 Posted February 4, 2013 whoever is shooting it, can get shot just as easily.DOHOHO.Anyway, I don't like them, not because they're overpowered, (although they are.) but because they get rid of the survivor feel.What are your chances of finding an ANTI-MATERIAL SNIPER RIFLE IN A ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE?AND WHY CAN YOU FIRE IT SO WELL?Those are my two problems with the guns. They have little to no recoil, despite them firing over 100,000,000m, and there's no disadvantages to them. There's a disadvantage to EVERY gun, besides those two snipers. You can shoot close range, you can shoot far range, it has a high ROF, (as fast as you can click) and it's just...If they fix the gun mechanics, (make it as if a civilian is firing, not a trained professional. At least when you start a new character.), and give the guns some bolt action or something for christ's sake. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr_chabowski@live.co.uk 2416 Posted February 4, 2013 (edited) I was talking about a modern sniper rifle. They cannot I through walls, and are not "super overpowered" because whoever is shooting it, can get shot just as easily.Try to read the whole post before posting something ridiculously.... Wrong. AS-50 (probably M107 too) CAN shoot through walls in ArmA/DayZ. Just not every wall.No need to cry. There will no doubt be some form of anti-materiel weaponry. Or, at the very least, a decent sniper.Next topic better be "Suggestion: Stop bringing up the same bullshit topics. You have nothing new to say."EDIT:Even if, in a zed apocalypse, you come across an AS-50. I SERIOUSLY doubt you'd be able to use it successfully.From what I'm led to believe, DayZ survivors are civillains NOT G.I. Joes. Edited February 4, 2013 by Chabowski Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gloopsgf 35 Posted February 4, 2013 (edited) Chabowski, I have heard of the guns being able to shoot throw some walls. People say sometimes it's glitches, but other say it is suppose to happen. I personally hope it is suppose to happen, but the chances of hitting one through a wall are slim.Creepysalad, have you fired an as50, or m107 at all?Edit: Chabowski, I am pretty sure anyone could fire a sniper after some practice shots... In real life, less likely due to wind, but if there was no wind interference, you would just need to learn how to determine ones distance, and how to zero a sniper... Edited February 4, 2013 by gloopsgf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tiresomehoopla 37 Posted February 4, 2013 I say decrease fire rate, or replace it with one that isn't anti-material. OR, they should add wind and humidity levels that affect ballistics so that it's not just zero and then fire away. Maybe replace with a bolt action rifle just as powerful? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DemonGroover 8836 Posted February 4, 2013 I have no problem with high powered weapons as long as they and their ammo are super rare.The main problem with the AS50 was the duping - at one point everyone had one. Fix that, decrease the spawn chance and i see no reason why weapons like these can't be found. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garvar 1 Posted February 4, 2013 A TAC-50 anyone? God, would love having one of these. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scoffield77@gmail.com 192 Posted February 4, 2013 remove the AS50, keep the m107... and make it more rare, that's all that needs to be done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clumzy (DayZ) 377 Posted February 4, 2013 People ask for realism, yet want the as50 removed. This makes no logical sense, because even some military vets keep their snipers on display.We don't want 30% of the population running around with anit-materiel rifles that can take down a chopper in a couple shots. They would be rare enough that you might as well not even put them in (Especially if there was no war going on in said country, which isn't explicitly stated in DayZ). I don't see how it's punishing a certain playstyle, a skilled sniper could still take out a chopper with a good shot. And for the people saying 'Make it more rare', it doesn't matter. People will eventually find them and stockpile them.A lot of people want them removed because they want more of an emphasis on civilian weaponry, less ArmA with some zombies. Everyone in a zombie apocalypse running around with high-end military grade death machines after their third day on the country? You find that realistic? And personally, I don't find it overpowered, I think most snipers should be a one-hit kill in the upper torso, no more superman hitpoints.And if you keep insulting everyone, people are going to stop taking you seriously. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frosti 2165 Posted February 4, 2013 A lot of people want them removed because they want more of an emphasis on civilian weaponry, less ArmA with some zombies. Everyone in a zombie apocalypse running around with high-end military grade death machines after their third day on the country? You find that realistic? And personally, I don't find it overpowered, I think most snipers should be a one-hit kill in the upper torso, no more superman hitpoints.That've gived me an idea. How about then, if you could equip certian weapons, for exemple as50 after your character have survived for like 7 days.This would stop people from re-arming their characters from tents where they have stockpilled military grade weapons in their "previous life". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr_chabowski@live.co.uk 2416 Posted February 4, 2013 (edited) The main problem with the AS50 was the duping - at one point everyone had one. Fix that, decrease the spawn chance and i see no reason why weapons like these can't be found.To put it bluntly, the reason they were getting duped all the time was because they are overpowered.One shot kills, along with the lack of any kind of movement restriction or inaccuracy (apart from right after sprinting, same as everything else) makes the AS-50 the best close-quarters weapon in DayZ.Oh. And it doubles as a sniper rifle!There's literally ZERO drawbacks, besides the amount of noise it makes.If it handled more realistically, in comparison with the other weapons on offer, and was actually rare like it's supposed to be, I don't think anybody would have grounds to complain about it.EDIT:That've gived me an idea. How about then, if you could equip certian weapons, for exemple as50 after your character have survived for like 7 days.......No. Edited February 4, 2013 by Chabowski 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
B00tsy (DayZ) 19 Posted February 4, 2013 What is the difference between an m107, and a DMR? The DMR knocks you out, and you slowly bleed to death, while the m107 saves you the misery.A military helicopter is sent with a squad of snipers and infantry. The chopper's pilot was bit before takeoff, and the chopper crashes in a field, killing all aboard. Their weapons and equipment remain amongst the wreck.That was a simple exlaination of how the weapons are in the game.I have had helicopters shot down by killers with their as50's. Temporary anger came over me, but in the end I realize it is a game, and the snipers should have fun as well.Why ruin someone elses game style, because you don't know how to stay hidden? Why can't you prepare I die whenever you leave your camp?Sure, getting sniped in Cherno isn't fun. Persistence is key, and you will prevail if you dont give up. Simply avoid major towns, get food and water, then return when everyone is away, gear up, an get revenge.I want to keep these beasts in the game, because life isn't fair, and because I want a challenge. I don't want to fly my helicopter knowing I am invincible. I want to feel danger every step I take.If you want them removed, Here is a list of suitable games:Call of dutyFarmVilleCity villaHaloBattle fieldBarbie dress upMy little ponyThank you for your time!If lameness is your game style then I understand that they should stay, otherwise get all the the sniper uber guns (also the DRM thus and scoped rifles in general) out of the game. And your referral to the other games is exactly not the point to make, CoD and Battlefield is where those uber rifles belong (or ArmA the military sim), not in baddass hardcore Dayz.. Sniper rifles is for pussies (don't take it personal pls). I understand your fun in having one as it is super easy to pawn players, but it also tells something about your lack of skills if you need to have one. The storyline is not really relevant, it's about having a bad ass game with skilled players on top of the food chain and not players who happen to have overpowered long range rifles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lady Kyrah 1110 Posted February 4, 2013 Lets not even think about what this kind of gun does to your ears if you aren't wearing protections. Even an AK is already over the pain threshold. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
B00tsy (DayZ) 19 Posted February 4, 2013 Edit: Chabowski, I am pretty sure anyone could fire a sniper after some practice shots... In real life, less likely due to wind, but if there was no wind interference, you would just need to learn how to determine ones distance, and how to zero a sniper...If you actually want to hit something over 100 meters away IRL then you need intensive training to do it not even mentioning being able to maintain the rifle in a working condition with all the heavy dayz weather and mud and stuff. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kaiga12 22 Posted February 4, 2013 Great suggedtion 10/10 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frosti 2165 Posted February 4, 2013 If you actually want to hit something over 100 meters away IRL then you need intensive training to do it not even mentioning being able to maintain the rifle in a working condition with all the heavy dayz weather and mud and stuff.Good post. Let's keep real life away from this cause in real life biggest problem would be to keep rifles (and specially sniper rifles + scopes) in good enought condition to be accurate above 100 meters, in situation like we have in DayZ. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr_chabowski@live.co.uk 2416 Posted February 4, 2013 You could have a rifle in absolutely pristine condition and it won't make a lick of difference if you're a shitty marksman.From what I can gather, weapon maintenance will eventually be a factor in SA. So if you're seriously hoping to "keep real life away from this" brace for a shock.Ideally we'll have a game mechanic to replicate setting optics (horizontal) if we're going to be swapping them around, too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toft 61 Posted February 4, 2013 (edited) I Agree with poster. its a part of the game. Learn to deal with it.Maybe instead of running around like headless chickens, you sniper whiners should just learn too be more hidden, and observe an area and its surroundings properly before moving in.I like the fact that they are in the game, it kinda makes the playing field even, regarding choppers etc.For you that say "its unrealistic the 50. cal's kill with one shot", pleeeeeaaasseeee. in real life you would most certainly die from 1 shot from a beast like that, which brings me to my next point.Dean would like the keep stuff as realistic as possible, therefor it would make sense to have snipers in the game that kills in one shot.Besides i dont see all soldiers irl whine about snipers and demanding they get removed from the battlefield in rules of engagement or whatever...So basically.. Learn to deal with it, Adapt and overcome!, its so simple... Edited February 4, 2013 by Toft Share this post Link to post Share on other sites