New DayZ Combat Feature: Asssassination

[ZackInGame 22]

So I was thinking the other day about what might make this game even better (I love it as is), and I came up with something. Now, I don't expect this for the Alpha, but it'd be a cool feature for the standalone.

What if, using your hunting knife, you could assassinate people?

If you're behind someone and crouched or something, and not "in combat", you could equip your hunting knife and do some sort of little kill animation. This would be cool for taking out teams using in-game chat (wouldn't do much for Skype) or just avoiding noise in general. If you had a silenced weapon, it'd be just as good, but if you didn't, I think this would be a cool feature for stealth.

Thoughts?

[±Traditore± 17]

I would think this would be good, if you weren't "in combat" and they were facing the opposite direction with you not in their line of sight.

Though this may turn into facestabs like in TF2 xD

[brandokid25 15]

Yeah there should be more of a use for the hunting knife rather than skinning a cow in the middle of a field. You should be able to use it similar to the hatchet and preform assassinations. I would find the mechanic hard to use at first because some survivors can be alert at all times. But I do like the idea of using the hunting knife as an actual weapon. Beans for you sir.

[tacticalbanana 38]

I don't really agree with the kill animation thing, but I like the idea of using the knife as a weapon.

[plrsniper 87]

But if the knife was a weapon, what kind of damage would it do? Obviously i can't do more damage than the axe?

Maybe make it so you perform an action with a 50% chance of success and if it fails then you have given your intentions away and you either try it again real quick or ya... Bullet(s) to the face!

[Quartermaine 34]

Even the option to use the knife for just hunting would be great. Would you give the victim the option to defend themselves?

[BAHADIR 124]

Ah yes, then we may add some hidden blade, bearded axe to the game and screw it all completely.

[TheSushi 28]

Given that using a hatchet takes up the primary weapon space, a secondary melee weapon of some sort would just be nice when you're trying to kill a lone zombie. Just make it do negligible damage and have a fast attack, killing with 1 or 2 hits to a zombie if you strike the head. You could also make the animation have a brief wind-up for a more powerful strike if you got the drop on a human player or zombie.

[thefirecrack3r 6]

How about a garrotte? Sneak up behind someone and wrap it around their neck. It would disable in gamechat from that person and could be held down to the point they become unconscious or a bit longer to kill them. I think something stealthy, up-close-and-personal would fit in right at home in DayZ and for anyone who doesn't like it, think of it this way. If you ran up behind someone with a knife in real life, you wouldn't just swing the knife at them like a tard. You'd jab it between their spinal cord, through a kidney, or run the blade across their neck. Though assassination animations are becoming a bit of a gimmick, they are more realistic that poking someone if you had the jump on them. Hell, pull a Halo: CE and make a melee to the back an instant kill. May not be as dramatic as an assassination, but it'd be easier for the devs to implement and might silence some of the naysayers since its less gaming mainstream.

[TheSushi 28]

The thing is, there's no real reason to add a garroting wire or a spinal stab thing except to humiliate people. You can just shoot them in the back of the head for a custom kill. I think people are more asking for a way to use the hunting knife (which is vaguely limited on functionality) or kill zombies / soldiers they snuck up on a bit easier.

[Sutinen 635]

Fuck knives, if it was a real life situation, I would just split the skull in half with a hatchet rather than stabbing.

And I don't like the "assassination" animation thing. Just stupid.

Edited December 30, 2012 by Sutinen

[ZackInGame 22]

I like it for the fact that it's silent. Silence is an integral part of DayZ for people who play alone. I hate firing my weapon - if I do it in Elektro while hitting up the factories for parts, well crap, everyone knows I'm here.

Maybe we could combine ideas. You could either swing like a madman - a 1 shot if you hit the neck or head, not if you hit anywhere else - or you could assassinate, which requires the target to hold still a moment longer. Now it's a dangerous and tactical trade off that you need to think about. If you pick the wrong one, you might die.

I just think a little throat-slitting animation would be more realistic than just swinging like an idiot and watching them die.

Maybe if you go to assassinate, the other player has something like a .5 second chance to click to interrupt you. That way, if they see you just before you do it, they can definitely stop it. But if it's an surprise, they wouldn't react fast enough.

[MOS182 63]

Sounds like a good idea

[TheSushi 28]

Fuck knives, if it was a real life situation, I would just split the skull in half with a hatchet rather than stabbing.

And I don't like the "assassination" animation thing. Just stupid.

Again, I think people just want the knife as an option because currently its a choice between assault rifles and melee.

[DragoKnight 5]

I think having the knife as a secondary melee weapon would be great, I also like the garrotte suggestion, I don't exactly like killing people but be able to knock them out without a bullet to the knee or torso would be excellent.

[ZackInGame 22]

A garrotte would be sweet. Cut off their communications. If you only hold it for a little while, nothing happens; hold it a while, they're knocked out; hold it for a long time, dead. It'd be cool for kidnappings and stuff.

[Toybasher 27]

Not to be a backseat mod or anything, but this has been posted before.

Anyways, I'd LOVE for this to be in the mod. Its extremely frustrating not to be able to use that hunting knife as a Melee weapon. Make it weak though, perhaps an instant kill from behind.

[Steak and Potatoes 13480]

This could be good if it could be a mutli weapon used system axe,knife flashlight knock outs, plink over the head with a jerry can

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWuuq_CHTnM

[TheSushi 28]

I think having the knife as a secondary melee weapon would be great, I also like the garrotte suggestion, I don't exactly like killing people but be able to knock them out without a bullet to the knee or torso would be excellent.

Garrotes kill people by crushing their airways and large arteries that supply blood to the brain >__>

[thefirecrack3r 6]

Garrotes kill people by crushing their airways and large arteries that supply blood to the brain >__>

Right now we have to shoot people to knock them out. Who shoots to knock someone out? Choking is far more realistic. And cutting off the blood flow to the brain wouldn't kill right away, you can knock people out by severing blood flow. But yes, you do collapse the airway which would be fatal. Still choking someone out until they're unconscious is more realistic than shooting them till they fall asleep. I'm not a fan of the assassination animation entirely either. But IRL there are silent ways to kill people without a silenced firearms, generally, those options are knives, axes, strangulation, and bludgeoning. Incorporating silent melee kills is a MUST. Doesn't have to be an assassination animation, but there should be an instant kill of some sort. Even if its something like HS with a melee weapon from behind. Melee insta-kills to encourage stealth would be great.

[TheSushi 28]

Right now we have to shoot people to knock them out. Who shoots to knock someone out? Choking is far more realistic. And cutting off the blood flow to the brain wouldn't kill right away, you can knock people out by severing blood flow. But yes, you do collapse the airway which would be fatal. Still choking someone out until they're unconscious is more realistic than shooting them till they fall asleep. I'm not a fan of the assassination animation entirely either. But IRL there are silent ways to kill people without a silenced firearms, generally, those options are knives, axes, strangulation, and bludgeoning. Incorporating silent melee kills is a MUST. Doesn't have to be an assassination animation, but there should be an instant kill of some sort. Even if its something like HS with a melee weapon from behind. Melee insta-kills to encourage stealth would be great.

Choking is generally very touchy. You can temporary close off the trachea to knock them out, but some people's airways / arteries are delicate and do not re-open easily. Its very easy to accidentally kill a person like that, which is why its uncommon in real life.

I'd just go the splinter cell method - whack them in the back of the head with whatever you have handy to knock them out. Or the flexcuff idea from some of the other threads.

[enforcer1975 1111]

So I was thinking the other day about what might make this game even better (I love it as is), and I came up with something. Now, I don't expect this for the Alpha, but it'd be a cool feature for the standalone.

What if, using your hunting knife, you could assassinate people?

If you're behind someone and crouched or something, and not "in combat", you could equip your hunting knife and do some sort of little kill animation. This would be cool for taking out teams using in-game chat (wouldn't do much for Skype) or just avoiding noise in general. If you had a silenced weapon, it'd be just as good, but if you didn't, I think this would be a cool feature for stealth.

Thoughts?

Played too much Assassin's Creed and Hitman? Good idea but with 3rd person noob mode on it's literally impossible to surprise a person from behind so the idea is already of no use.

[Rubarb7000 0]

The idea is strangulation is good but it would only work on players as zombies don't need air (unless DayZ zombies are weird) so for a silent zombie kill the assassination would be much better, you sneak up behind a zombie grab its forehead and ram the knife up into its brain through that soft spot at the back of your scull.

Because we all know that the only way to kill a zombie is its brain :)

[ZackInGame 22]

Played too much Assassin's Creed and Hitman? Good idea but with 3rd person noob mode on it's literally impossible to surprise a person from behind so the idea is already of no use.

3rd person allows you to see a lot more to your right and left than behind you. If the killer was quick, it'd still be a big surprise. And maybe that's just one more thing to take into consideration before you do it; what are the odds they see me?

[ZackInGame 22]

Choking is generally very touchy. You can temporary close off the trachea to knock them out, but some people's airways / arteries are delicate and do not re-open easily. Its very easy to accidentally kill a person like that, which is why its uncommon in real life.

I'd just go the splinter cell method - whack them in the back of the head with whatever you have handy to knock them out. Or the flexcuff idea from some of the other threads.

Just smack them with the butt of your gun?