Don't even make third-person an option for DayZ standalone

[Ratsmon 131]

There was a perfect meme for this topic but I just cant find it. Anyhow. You all like the game, that's the main reason you are here sitting ducks waiting for the SA, right? Right. The more you change something it will feel weirder and weirder, and in the end, you will end up probably disliking it. Just play the game and ENJOY IT!

[Mr Nasty 1023]

I like beating dead horses.

I prefer to beat something else... giggity.

[Jars (DayZ) 63]

What we can agree on is that we need both, just there needs to be some fixing to lessen 3rd person exploits?

Whats the point of another field of view , that doesn't actually give you some advantage to use it .

You can not implement another field if view , without it giving some sort of advantage in certain situations .

If there really HAS to be a third person , am I allowed to zoom out as far as possible ?

If not , why not ?

What determines just how far is too far , how much terrain exploitation is too much ?

I do not agree there needs to be both , which is kind of the point of this thread .

What you can actually see , is probably the most important part of the game , and it doesn't make sense to allow you some sort of extra sensory power .

Edited December 26, 2012 by Jars

[BLKCandy 12]

Well I some time need 3rd person when i am stuck and cannot found how did I stuck!

So I recommend 2 option:

1st: They kinda did this in full spectrum warrior: You can look 'the world' in 3D (like now) but you cannot see any unit(Or item) beyond 1st person line of sight! Anything outside 1st person line of sight may be grayed out(Or blur, or fade, or what ever effect you can think off) to tell the player that they did not really see that point.

2nd: 'Almost' remove the 3rd person. The 'feeling'. Simulate survivor using their hand to feel around them. A 3rd person with limited vision of 2-3 meter and no color/light effect! Just plain 3D Model! Useful when looting at night! Because in reality, you would use your hand to feel stuff in the dark right?

PS. 1st person hurts my eyes, even with head bobbing minimum.

Edited December 26, 2012 by BLKCandy

[jamie8e@hotmail.com 15]

I dont get it? Your entitled to use third person as well you know, If you was smart(not saying your not) you would use third person while you move and position yourself and first person when your tailing someone or expect a gun fight. Not going to lie though running around in first person really gives an extra boost to the realistic game play feel and looks rad when your running though a town/buildings.

Edited December 26, 2012 by TheTang

[Paraplegic 9]

What really annoys me is when I turn head bob completely down, it stops bobbing, but still sways forward and backward

[Shadow Man 142]

The most important thing to me is a level playing field. I don't believe options are a good neccesarily. Servers should be 1st or 3rd without an option to choose.

I prefer 1st person but nearly always use 3rd if the option is there because if you use 1st you're at an instant disadvantage. I absolutely loathe the way you can peek round corners and into rooms. Its the worst thing about the game.

[ididi9 (DayZ) 53]

If first person did make you Ill then I'd support this

[enforcer1975 1111]

Thirdperson for me is basically out 90 degree vision in real life, as firstperson in most games is 75 degrees or around that.

You only think that because you see more thanks to you camera angle...the fov is still the same.

The most important thing to me is a level playing field. I don't believe options are a good neccesarily. Servers should be 1st or 3rd without an option to choose.

I prefer 1st person but nearly always use 3rd if the option is there because if you use 1st you're at an instant disadvantage. I absolutely loathe the way you can peek round corners and into rooms. Its the worst thing about the game.

"Immersion"......theis ass...

Edited December 27, 2012 by Enforcer

[VldZ 5]

I just like 3rd person because the game is more beautiful.I just like to see how my character looks like and the animations he makes when he shoots,walk,run,etc...I know it's an advantage for those who use it,but..live with that!

[Jars (DayZ) 63]

See, we disagree completely. Third person is the only logical view for a game like this as it makes the pvp game harder, makes travelling more interesting, and feels more natural. Yes, it makes pvp harder. Most of the anti-tpv guys prove this with their posts without realizing it.

No.

Logically , you can't actually see things that you can't actually see , therefore , third person is illogical , as sweet and sexy as it may be .

It doesn't make pvp harder , only dumber .

I can avoid traps I shouldn't be able to see , avoid zombies I shouldn't be aware of , talk to people I shouldn't even know are there , and I can even know if they are a bandit armed to the teeth or a new spawn that is no threat , all without leaving the safe confines of the wall I am exploiting over .

I can even know the EXACT moment i am safe to move from cover , once I see the bandit shooting at me move to try and flank me .

I should be pinned in position by my fear of the unknown , that is how it should work , it's almost the only thing worth playing the game for .

To me , third person sounds dumber , not harder .

[Michaelvoodoo25 3120]

No keep 3d view, Ban 1st person view, this only attracts fps fans and most (Emphasis on most) are short span gamers. DayZ is a game that requires longer attention span of a game, so if there is no 1st person view, it might not attract COD/BF gamers (U plants)

1st Person only when you go prone that will annoy more players.Keep 3DV, Ban 1st person view, becaue half of you would not be able to sense or hear things over a fence. You know if you keep quiet you can tell the directions of stuff around you? Being aware of your surroundings means a lot more than seeing (Like your failed point of view - pun intended)

In fact stop people joining this forum unless they have age verification. this will stop people posting repeat ideas because they don't know what search is!!

FOV? if its that easy to do, write me a program to do it with, one button click and it will alter and figure it out based on my viewing distance from my monitor einstein.

YES THIS IS TAKING THE PISS.

Oh yeah, you can compensate head bob by rocking the opposite way from your character on your chair while playing, this will stop you from chucking up.

Servers can choose what view players play (Funny how more choose 3DP?)

Don't give me "players don't want to change because they are used to the MOD" well DURRRRGH, we play because we like the way it is, we only want some better, more fluid gameplay and additional stuff, not to re-write the game bacause "I just got killed because" (Whiny bitch voice) type of moan.

Edited December 27, 2012 by Michaelvoodoo25

[WiFiN 55]

No keep 3d view, Ban 1st person view, this only attracts fps fans and most (Emphasis on most) are short span gamers. DayZ is a game that requires longer attention span of a game, so if there is no 1st person view, it might not attract COD/BF gamers (U plants)

1st Person only when you go prone that will annoy more players.Keep 3DV, Ban 1st person view, becaue half of you would not be able to sense or hear things over a fence. You know if you keep quiet you can tell the directions of stuff around you? Being aware of your surroundings means a lot more than seeing (Like your failed point of view - pun intended)

In fact stop people joining this forum unless they have age verification. this will stop people posting repeat ideas because they don't know what search is!!

FOV? if its that easy to do, write me a program to do it with, one button click and it will alter and figure it out based on my viewing distance from my monitor einstein.

YES THIS IS TAKING THE PISS.

Oh yeah, you can compensate head bob by rocking the opposite way from your character on your chair while playing, this will stop you from chucking up.

Servers can choose what view players play (Funny how more choose 3DP?)

Don't give me "players don't want to change because they are used to the MOD" well DURRRRGH, we play because we like the way it is, we only want some better, more fluid gameplay and additional stuff, not to re-write the game bacause "I just got killed because" (Whiny bitch voice) type of moan.

nigga u b trollin [ No derogative racial slurs please. No matter how harmless it may seem. This is not the Xbox community - 4L4N ]

seriously, how do you manage to leave all valid points and twist everything else?

Edited December 28, 2012 by 4L4N
Racial slur

[Michaelvoodoo25 3120]

Easy, I sit back and read silly comments like this every week, take this out, put that in, yet half of you havent played the game/Mod, and those who have played have played for a few hours. Some of you are all waiting for the SA and havent got a clue what you are on about. Then theres the other few who are here from Warzzzzzzz hiding out because your beloved game sucks cock. Let's not forget those who died in game because of a feature and then come on here to moan like schoolgirls (Which is what OP sounds like)

Play for a while longer and you'll see it dosen't really matter nor does it offer any real advantage a experienced player can not play around (I consider it a challenge to play people, them in 3DP and me 1st person view)

There was a reason for 3rdPV in the game, do some research and find it (I cant remember rockets comments but it was, Hint, peripheral senses) You have to remember this is a game, let some elements be used wether they are "REAL" or not.

Bottom of story, Leave it in, let players choose. Simples!

[mr_chabowski@live.co.uk 2416]

There's nothing to add to the discussion. It's been discussed to death. That won't stop it.

The retrograde drivel never ends.

voodoo clearly has a handle on the situation.And I agree with him 100%

IMO If you play this game as an FPS, you're not doing it right.

If you're not doing it right, your opinion on game features and mechanics is irrelevant.

Edited December 27, 2012 by Chabowski

[Jars (DayZ) 63]

I am not here to say what is right or wrong for people .

Clearly many people like third person view and hope that it stays , and it will do so .

This forum is to voice opinions and suggestions and ( hopefully ) give some sort of rational argument for what ever position you may choose or prefer .

Pretty sure that isn't whining .

[Jars (DayZ) 63]

There's nothing to add to the discussion. It's been discussed to death. That won't stop it.

The retrograde drivel never ends.

voodoo clearly has a handle on the situation.And I agree with him 100%

IMO If you play this game as an FPS, you're not doing it right.

If you're not doing it right, your opinion on game features and mechanics is irrelevant.

That's exactly the sort of attitude that makes your opinion irrelevant .

[Welch (DayZ) 756]

I don't see how people don't look in Settings/Options on games. That's the first thing I go for.

There's a thing called Headbob, if you turn it off, you'll stop throwing up on your keyboard from motion-sickness. I wouldn't mind first-person only, either. It's way easier to whip around objects in a car in FP.

[Welch (DayZ) 756]

moan like schoolgirls

Isn't it "Scream like a schoolgirl"

I think you've been watching too many roleplay pornos.

On topic, though. I agree, most people on here don't play enough or haven't been on the forums enough to know why stuff is done. Yet people still are ignorant to the subject they're talking about.

[mr_chabowski@live.co.uk 2416]

@Jars - OOOOOOH BURN!!!

I wish I had the presence of mind you clearly do. *sarcasm detected*

The attitude comes from listening to idiots use the exact same arguments day after day. You can't tell me how this game is supposed to be played if you don't even know yourself.

DayZ is not an FPS, so any argument using that as its basis falls flat on its ass.

For future reference:

This is not a topic that should be recreated every couple of weeks. All facets of the discussion have been dissected time and time again.

Use the search bar.

If you can't even figure out how the forum works, I have absolutely no faith in your judgement or ability.

EDIT: Case in point, there was the

EXACT SAME DISCUSSION

on the first page of suggestions when this topic was created.

insanity: doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results

Edited December 27, 2012 by Chabowski

[Michaelvoodoo25 3120]

Oi Jar Jar, It is whining, it does not take a genius to read between the lines for some posters, Also an Irrelevant post about a suspected irrelevant post? wow!! your 43 post history is irrelevant. My 2 earlier post still stands, but hey each to his / her own.

Isn't it "Scream like a schoolgirl"

I think you've been watching too many roleplay pornos.

On topic, though. I agree, most people on here don't play enough or haven't been on the forums enough to know why stuff is done. Yet people still are ignorant to the subject they're talking about.

Yes, but they were legal and yeah i agree.

[Jars (DayZ) 63]

@Jars - OOOOOOH BURN!!!

You can't tell me how this game is supposed to be played if you don't even know yourself.

DayZ is not an FPS,

That's an astounding turn of hypocrisy right there .

Do my posts gain credibility based on how much I spam the forums ?

That's a funny way to go about listening to people .

[mr_chabowski@live.co.uk 2416]

Defining what it is not, is not the same as enforcing your preferences on everyone.

You fail to understand this, and here we still are.

[Michaelvoodoo25 3120]

Chill, Jar Jar, each to his / her own (Dunno if your a girl or what?) Your acting like a menopause.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, even onions.

:huh:

Edited December 27, 2012 by Michaelvoodoo25

[Jars (DayZ) 63]

I couldn't be more chill .

I don't feel the need to insult any one , if it is indeed meant to be an insult that I am an older female with fluctuating hormones .

A game is defined by its rules , and I am voicing my opinion on the rules I would like to see , and why I think they would make it a better game .