Fix Land Navigation

[Dreygar (DayZ) 178]

This is supposed to be based on a military simulator? Well, we read maps from the left up (Find the left bottom corner, count the ticks to the right that would intersect with point. (Horizontal grid square + Ticks = First coordinate) Then count the ticks up (Vertical grid square + Ticks = Second Coordinate). Not from the vertical to horizontal.

Example. In game Cherno hospital would show as grid coordinate 064125, though how the military and how maps are designed to be read is backwards. It would be 125064. A minor fix but should essentially be an easy one then.

[mr_chabowski@live.co.uk 2416]

There should be different kinds of map in-game anyway.

No chance every map in the country is exactly the same, there should be a range of maps, so you'll have to learn how to read them.

Some maps might be really poor quality, without markers for altitude etc. Or maybe a road atlas with different areas on different pages.

Brainstorm with it, I just think there should be more variety in all walks of DayZ. _{^{within reason}}

The order you read the coordinates depends on you, I suppose, but wouldn't they still be written the same on the map?

Edited November 9, 2012 by Chabowski

[wolfstriked 143]

Hit M in game and your instantly backed out of game and the online map pops up. :P

[DemonGroover 8836]

Also, slightly off topic, but there is a need to alter the fact you always know east-west because that's the way the clouds move. Surely the direction of the clouds can be randomised.

[terrvik 2409]

Also, slightly off topic, I think everyone should move away from the mindset that it is based on a military simulator.

[Dreygar (DayZ) 178]

There should be different kinds of map in-game anyway.

No chance every map in the country is exactly the same, there should be a range of maps, so you'll have to learn how to read them.

Some maps might be really poor quality, without markers for altitude etc. Or maybe a road atlas with different areas on different pages.

Brainstorm with it, I just think there should be more variety in all walks of DayZ. _{^{within reason}}

The order you read the coordinates depends on you, I suppose, but wouldn't they still be written the same on the map?

That's not much of my concern... I mean you could brainstorm and say that if you had a notepad you could make your own map. (You just add to your notepad every time you find a location and it kind draws its own map) but yeah... I just want a simple fix.

[mr_chabowski@live.co.uk 2416]

Improving the game should be the concern of every player. I found this relevant to your "map fix"

*snip*but yeah... I just want a simple fix.

There's nothing to fix. If you use Latitude and Longitude they represent a location, which is always at that location.

If you want to read co-ords (Y, X) instead of (X, Y) you can, but you have to specify this, because everyone else does it the other way.

[aksuduud 64]

I have no idea really but perhaps czechs do it differently than americans?

[Dreygar (DayZ) 178]

Also, slightly off topic, I think everyone should move away from the mindset that it is based on a military simulator.

Fact is, it is based of a military simulator... and when the standalone comes it will be based around realistic survival...

[terrvik 2409]

Fact is, it is based of a military simulator... and when the standalone comes it will be based around realistic survival...

There are no inter-dimensional Aliens in Counter-Strike. :)

[TheDesigner 1197]

Also, slightly off topic, I think everyone should move away from the mindset that it is based on a military simulator.

Lolwut? Do you even know what ArmA is, Bambi?

[Fraggle (DayZ) 15720]

Bambi? WTF?

@Designer - How about you contribute to the thread rather than trolling people. xxx

Edited November 10, 2012 by Fraggle

[Riem 164]

Military simulator implies you're simulating military activities.

DayZ is currently a mod of a military simulator, and we should, with the standalone version, move towards thinking about making it more of a survival sim.

Also, I'd like to see crudely drawn and bloodstained maps.

[mr_chabowski@live.co.uk 2416]

Bambi? WTF?

Let him get his troll on, he's obviously put in all the effort he can muster. :P Edited November 10, 2012 by Chabowski

[Dr.Duff 211]

Also, slightly off topic, but there is a need to alter the fact you always know east-west because that's the way the clouds move. Surely the direction of the clouds can be randomised.

Alas the sun still rises in the east and sets in the west.

[Dreygar (DayZ) 178]

In any case... I think the map should be read correctly if it's going to use military maps, compasses, etc.

[Michaelvoodoo25 3120]

Have a minecraft styled map, that way they are personal. When you come across a dead player (who hasnt been looted) you can see their map and sketch their info into your own!!!

I have never had issues with reading any kinds of maps (But i am an ex squaddie)

[mr_chabowski@live.co.uk 2416]

I decided to google it. I found an army study guide for Land Navigation _^HERE

38 What is the general rule for reading military grid coordinates?

Right and UP

So, military maps are read the same as normal maps.

[silkyskills 59]

Maybe the map should come in five parts

[Dreygar (DayZ) 178]

I decided to google it. I found an army study guide for Land Navigation _^HERESo, military maps are read the same as normal maps.

I encourage you to go on DayZ db, find a grid point and then try and locate that grid on the DayZ map using the correct method. You will obviously be at the wrong point because Day Z, Arma 2, and DayZ db respectively read the map incorrectly.

[mr_chabowski@live.co.uk 2416]

I just looked up both of my camps on DB map. The coordinates are right.

Maybe I'm just not understanding you properly, but I don't see any difference.

[Dreygar (DayZ) 178]

What are the coordinates to the cherno hospital? (the one by the apartments)

Edited November 12, 2012 by Dreygar

[takelmeifter 0]

What are the coordinates to the cherno hospital? (the one by the apartments)

roughly, 0612. more specifically 064123 (or something like that, only have the large scale grid to hand atm

across the corridor then up the stairs. columns then rows

[Dreygar (DayZ) 178]

roughly, 0612. more specifically 064123 (or something like that, only have the large scale grid to hand atm

across the corridor then up the stairs. columns then rows

Case in point. He's reading the map wrong. He's reading it the way Arma 2 (military sim???) reads it.

[mr_chabowski@live.co.uk 2416]

Maps are read X, Y (Left and Right, Up and Down)

That's normal, I don't understand how you're finding a difference where it doesn't exist.

EDIT : Just to be clear, that's the way I've always read maps, and I've never been a member of any armed forces.

Edited November 12, 2012 by Chabowski