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So you guys ghost us, Fake we are hacking if 2006 is with you, Apparently stalk us for about 1 hour when we travel about 50km from the stated points you see us, Then you kill us with a grenade thing and fire close to 20-25 rounds. Then we kick you for ghosting which is not illegal to kick, then you bitch here. Maybe fix your minds.

There was indeed more than 2 Grenades, I simply highlighted the two that started the main encounter. I myself had 3 Grenades on me. We had more than a couple between the other members of our squad, and the guy with the Grenade launcher had 4 HE Grenades in total. With regards to ghosting, those accusations have absolutely no basis whatsoever. Having ~6-8 guys total, 2 scouting and providing intel around the town, and 4-6 guys in our main squad is what resulted in the CQF squad being killed. Whilst I understand that it may not be an 'official' CQF Server, it is a server whereby CQF are admins. At the time of me being chainkicked, the only players on the server were either in CQF, or in our Squad. You can see that in the video I posted previously.

Hello, 366 is not a CQF official server, so I cannot weigh in on that for you. As for being night time, our time changer was bugged and I reset it yesterday. However, I would caution you to throw around accusations as I cautioned my guys to do the same, because I was told by 5-6 guys that there were far more than 2 grenades and ghosting was happening. But I cannot do anything as I cannot admin the server and I do not have proof. Johnny

Oh I know alt-f4ing is getting attention alright, and I suppose so is ghosting to an extent. What I'm on about is different. You can tell from server logs when someone is server hopping to get in an advantageous position - You can't tell from the logs when a player who hasn't logged in for hours is told on Mumble that someone is on your spawn location and a threat to your team.

Trust me. Yours and the 400 other threads relating to ALT-F4'ing and Ghosting have given enough attention as it is. You could always do a quick check on the search.

Hey thanks for the good advice Zipper. No need to apologize I should have chosen a better description/title. I wish I could change the thread title. But I will rename the video title as you suggested. Going up stairs didn't even cross my mind at the time. But yes it would probably have been my best option. In regards to the location of where the gunshots came from; I just watched the scene again a few times, and it seems they both shot almost simultaneously. I could hear two shots - the second shot I hear just a split second after the loud bang is the guy I tried to aim at in the treeline. He is my killer according to you? The very loud gunshot that I initially thought killed me came from my direct left. I am certain it was the guy who DC'd on me (I believe he then switched server to crawl under that gap and try to get behind where he thought I was) Well, at least he didn't get the kill. Makes me feel a bit better. Nice observation. Again, I would not have noticed. I still think he did the ghosting and whether it was needed to kill me or not I don't know. Probably not but that doesn't make it any more acceptable. If we are perfectly strict one could define the act of disconnecting and then reconnecting a minute or two later as ghosting. He is essentially cheating to save his life and to get an unfair advantage over you. When he logs back in after a while he expects you to have moved on or be otherwise distracted so he can get an easy unexpected and unfair kill. I sometimes wonder, when did those people lose all their dignity? In regards to the location of my spawn, yes I started recording immediately after connecting. I was disconnected earlier during nighttime by yellow chain on a different server. (I usually don't craw around walls on top of hills too much during daytime ;)) Usually try to find a safe concealed spot in the woods before logging out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PD8ZQxMA_k Got a bit tired of hombres DCing so I started recording with Fraps. Honestly I don't really care if people DC - it makes them a wuss in my eyes but that is their own problem. What I find very repulsive are people who quickly move to different server so that they can fix themselves up, and then relocate to a better spot in order to kill me . At least I think that is what happened here. And it was not the first time. Just the first time I have it on vid and I think it is pretty hillarious. I feel like I failed in the end but all I really wanted was to get this low-life ghoster and his buddy. What would you have done in this situation? How can I improve in the future so I don't get destroyed like this when I had initiative? I understand the dude was probably cheating/ghosting but I am still not happy with my performance I think my positioning was terrible. Sadly I can't even blame it on bad audio because my headset is great. I was at that particular location for the first time so I did not know the surroundings aside from how it looked on the map. Still, after watching this I was quiet disappointed at how poorly I adapted to the changing dynamics. The guy who Alt-F4ed was sneaking right behind the wall, and I verbally shared my thoughts about his "strategy" with him over comms - unfortunately I noticed later on that I was in global chat - not direct chat so he most likely didn't hear my calm voice and the wisely chosen words that I threw at him just before he blew my brains out. Question: Should I just disconnect myself when I suspect someone is going to try to ghost me? Honestly, when that first bullet whizzed by my ear I was thinking about it because omg so unfairz blahblah but then I pulled myself together and just wanted to go kill this sob. Meh no cigar for today unfortunately, but one of the next times eventually... I hope Rocket and his crew find a solution to this problem in the near future. I absolutely love this game but playing against those kind of people a large portion of the time is just not very satisfying.

Server hop and ghosting. 2 exploits. +1 for perma ban you are the problem we hate then most.

Ok so i was with my friend semprox[echo] at the nw airfield when i got attacked by some people i dont know who, i was lagging like hell and i couldnt see anything so i logged out, i tried closing my steam and log back in still didnt stop lagging so i logged out again and took down the graphics still didnt work so i logged out again because i was getting shot after, after restarting my computer i couldnt log into the server, i was banned for ghosting please unban me it wont happen again i promise i lost my nvg, rangefinder, dmr and m16 anyways but this is my fav server and i play here because i play with my friend and he plays here because he is echo I posted this at their forums and i just copied it here DAYZ US89 Ingame name Dormio Incredible enough i managed to kill somebody by spinning around and shooting :l

Hey there Marvo, I play on US 5, the unrepentant server and I'm part of the community where you took that out of context quote from. I know all the players from the Unrepentant and none of them have admin (we might be getting it soon though). For the record, the camp you found isn't ours so we have nothing to do with your bad experiences.. You do know the server gets restarted 4 times a day right? It is entirely possibly you were unlucky, and if what you are talking about happened yesterday, or the day before there were problems with the server, and in fact the entire game for about 2 days. Sykotix, the admin and server owner (I think he is Dayz dev too) had to update the server. Quite a few of our clan members lost stuff too. I know I got teleported 1000m from my ATV. In short, whatever is happening to you and your friends has nothing to do with us. We don't hack, we don't cheat, we don't use exploits like ghosting and logging in and out. Exactly.

This^ Another badass playing a video game. :| (muting it, I can say it was good of you to avenge your mate.. but "ghosting them yo.." is just ..wow)

There was nothing mocking about my first post (that you just quoted), it was just a brief opinion. Your last couple of posts have explained the situation much better and without all of the attitude. I honestly think you could speculate all day about why he had those items on him. People move equipment about all day in Dayz. Just because his load out wasn't traditional for a raid or a sniper doesn't make him a hacker. Having nine Pepsi's isn't that odd. I had a similar amount of Coke's in my Alice pack the other day, it's just what I happened to keep finding. Also, as well as all of the other suggestions I've made as to why he had that gear, maybe he had recently looted someone else. Like I said you could speculate all day. You say he wasn't part of a group because there was no tents near by? That just doesn't make sense. Like I already suggested, maybe the rest of the group were looting in Electro or doing a million other things, maybe he'd recently spawned there and was waiting for them,again the list is endless. Maybe he was a hacker, we'll never know. I was just offering my opinion based on the information in the first post. I still stand by that opinion. Also you say you switched servers to test the NVG's and get distance from any snipers on yet another server. Server hopping to gain an advantage like that is as unsporting as ghosting in my opinion and a bigger problem than hacking. Don't be offended, it's just my opinion.

I apologize, I didn't realize you were looking for advice. I just saw the thread title and watched the video and made an assumption. The problem with your line of thought here is you had already been detected. You were shot at while you were inside the building. Not sure if you know or not but there are multiple floors you can access in the building you were in. You should have tried to use that to your advantage, even though you probably would have died anyway since the building is so exposed on the upper levels. Rewatch the video. I'm sure you heard the gunshot after you died. If you had been right next to the person who killed you there would have been a gunshot as soon as you fell. This wasn't the case. The very first rifle you hear being fired (not the pistol) is the guy who killed you. He was in that tree line for what appears to be the entire time, providing overwatch. Not sure how you define ghosting but I don't think it would have been needed to kill you. You fired one of the loudest guns in the game at a person who was traveling in a group. It was done in a sealed area where your enemy was able to view all available exits. There were only two ways you would have lived, kill the remaining two or three people, or disconnect. You wouldn't have been able to run out of there alive. I wasn't talking about hacking either. The first person you shot would have had to have been the luckiest person in the world to not have died. The Enfield will kill a man in one shot. So there was no relogging and magically appearing behind you from that guy. Basically what I'm saying is you should rename your video Alt+F4. There was no ghosting and nobody repositioned on you from a different server. My suggestion would be aim a little higher next time and don't even give the guy an opportunity to disconnect. I think your video started with you logging in right next to the building as well. You may want to run up and into the forrest next time. Disconnecting next to a building, or in one, is generally never a good idea. If you didn't start there then nevermind, it just sounded like you logged in and immediately started recording.

You know before DayZ "Ghosting" someone just plainly ment killing someone......

The whole "staying in game frozen" thing would NEVER work. Players would die and lose a weeks old character simply because of a thunder storm or a child tripping over a power cord. If you think the complaints on the forums now about other players using DC'ing to avoid zombies/pvp or ghosting in PvP, it's nothing compared to the rage that would occur when people start losing long-life and well-equiped characters from uncontrollable disconnects. There is a solution out there, but it's not this.

And how wrong you are. There is a grey area for banning for ghosting and disconnecting to avoid death. Some servers do it, some don't. However I'm giving him a second chance but I can't get his GUID since he posted it on our forums and our web server has been down. Dormio, if you can post your GUID here I can help solve this.

Zipper, Sometimes what is obvious to a person who has played the game for weeks is completely invisible to a player who has just picked up the game a few days ago. See, I did not notice the different gunshots. I assumed the pitch changed because of me closing in on distance. But it's good advice I will pay more attention to that in the future. This is exactly what I was hoping for. Pointers to what I need to look for and how to get better at this game. So thanks for the good advice my friend. I ran outside because I wanted to get a better angle on him and I did not want to stay inside a building with an Enfield as I have a better advantage over longer distances. I felt I had better way of avoiding detection or line of sight outside or behind the building. In hindsight it probably was a plan not well thought out and destined to fail. I think the shot sounded way too close to be the guy standing at the treeline. No, I think I got shot by the other guy from the exact spot I shot him from previously. This is where I disagree with you and say that the bullet that killed me was fired less then 10m away from the guy I heard moments earlier behind the wall. I did not understand exactly what was going on aside from the disconnect and subsequent ghosting. That is what I mean with fishy. Also the DC and then being up against multiple people seemingly working together threw me off quiet a bit to be honest. I kinda thought the guy would just move on to a different server for a while and not risk being shot again. So i moved on which obviously turned out to be the wrong decision. What I plan to do in the future is to just gtfo as fast as possible and leave the hostile area behind me. I did not intend to imply they were using 3rd party tools to do the aiming for them or to see through walls/pink textures etc. in case that was the reason for the slightly strict/angry note in your reply. If that was my suspicion I would have filed a cheat report.

I think that its called "Ghosting"

I've killed the admin's friend on this server before, and never found anything odd to happen, however he did admit to Ghosting and killing one of our friends because "we were being dicks, because we stole their car, and its just not fair if we have more than one car" I do get the feeling these guys purchased this server because they thought they could hoard all of the vehicles for themselves etc. PS, if you're reading this admin, I have your yellow hatchback, but PM me and you can have it back. Cheers

-A player that just fired a bullet in the last 10 seconds has to wait 30s before he can disconnect from the game. If he exits prematurely his character will remain in that spot for 30s and will be exposed to whatever threats are around him. -Player that just lost blood any amount of blood or was wounded in any manner cannot exit for 30s. Again, the character will remain in the world if the game is forcefully closed or if the connection is lost. -Should you decide to disconnect in a safe spot you will have to wait for a 10second timer to run down where you are not allowed to move (just like the bandages) before the game logs you out. Shooting, and any directional movement, also usage of equipment aborts the timer and lets you instantly resume combat. So if your game randomly crashes at any point where you have not been wounded or otherwise incapacitated your character will remain in the world for 10 seconds before exiting. -If you lose connection to the server the 10 second timer will initiate server-sided the moment you lose connection - unless of course if you are in a combat situation like mentioned above you will have a 30 second timer. -To stop ghosting the server must be able to recognize when a player changed position after logging back in. if that positional change was less then x seconds ago, and not on the same server then put player back to coordinates where he disconnected previously on the original server. This will prevent people abusing this mechanic to gain positional advantage and circumvent combat situations) Also revert health and gear and status to where player previously logged off if it has changed. Notice that all those settings would still let people who try to avoid combat (aka pussies) to log off unless they have just been hit/injured. Doesn't that make any sense, or is there a flaw in my logic? Obviously I do not have a programming background so I have absolutely no clue how big a project it would be to implement such a mechanic. But I hope that something along those lines makes it into the game at some point in the near future.

Solid proof of ghosting. :)

Can they even ban for ghosting?

However your number one could be used for ghosting like purposes depending on the range.

MY FEEDBACK on 1.7.2.3 i found out that the connection is faster, initially when i should have spawned with my char i had a message which said i was running 1.7.2. even if the multiplayer screen said i was on 1.7.2.3 I updated also with sixlauncher and after that, i was able to connect smoothly. i have to say that it was a 3/3 succesfull connection. i didn't have the ''spot from too far'' problem with the infected even with 1.7.2.0 but the game definitly goes really really better than 1.7.1.5. good work devs! this was a great patch and a great hotfix..i finish saying that the dc and ghosting to me have to be fixed and i want to ask : local saving servers are supposed to do so, or they'll disappear? because right now they are the best solution to dc to avoid death. thanks for your work

Easy to fix. Each time you log you reenter at a random point in a 1km radius from where you logged. Ghosting fixed.