Do not make DayZ mainstream noob friendly

[disastr 7]

I wonder if rocket really did ban him.

[Izithel 23]

What is separating DayZ from the rest is not the zombie factor' date=' its the large open world meets survival of the fittest

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Soooo...ArmA2 free for all?

People seem to forget that DayZ is about more than shooting people for points.

You're not shooting them for points, you're shooting them for their beans.

[haviv[3rdid] 57]

I don't understand why you people are afraid that a mod of a fairly obscure military simulation video game is going to become 'mainstream noob friendly'.

Well, there are many ArmA2 fans who can quote every single detail that their military mods replicate and some of them are a little ticked off that all these people are playing vanilla ArmA2 just to kill zombies. Zombies are 'mainstream' and they don't want Bohemia to focus on dayz instead of developing the most accurate milsim.

[slappyham 1]

LOL, give it a rest disastr, you sound like a try-hard hipster right now.

BF3 is a great game, DICE are the Ars Thanea of game developers.. just because a game is 'mainstream' does not mean it is a bad game.

*facepalm*

[joshuabeatdown 2]

Funny thing is: BIS are specialists at the indie release' date=' so I trust that they'll be able to get a game like DayZ to market without having to give into a big-name publisher and compromise what makes DayZ good.

It is also a known fact that DayZ has immensely helped drive Arma 2 sales to all-time highs, this in essence has made DayZ work like a kickstarter project and helped fund BIS for Arma 3 development. which in turn probably makes a retail copy of DayZ with A3's engine all the better.

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Past few years I've getting into more indie games. The small companies have it right. The big publishers just shit on everything, and try to milk it for money. Oh I see you found a M4A3 CCO, well if you want to keep it please pay another $10.

I like obscure games that cater to specific groups. It means so much more as you are playing. Like the game was tailor made for you. Not like the hog wash revamped, copied, and overly used all over the market. Those type of games become watered down, to the point it is not longer fun to the intended user. Making the following games having to keep that watered down to even keep users.

I do not like the argument people use about how if you love a game you will support it. Well when said game is beyond what it was there is no point. What you loved is gone, and now completely becoming a zombie. A shell of what it once was, and dumbed down to basic thinking.

Most like Dayz for what it is, completely new, and different then all over zombie games. Yet it seems like all the new people, and a few older people want to turn this into Dead Island/L4D.

So to sum it up I get what OP is saying, but he has it wrong.

[Hekler (DayZ) 1]

While agree what makes DayZ great is its unforgiving nature and in no way should that change. (It gives an experience like few games I've played. It reminds me most of the Stalker games.)

Your Elitist attitude is pretty unflattering and is generally the attitude that results in a pretty unpleasant community. New people should be welcomed, because at the end of the day, if they have fun, they will stick around and enjoy the game for what it is. If they find it to hard, they'll whinge and leave.

Anyway, Rocket, keep up the top notch work, this is the most fun I've had in a game since Starcraft 2

And just as a side note, Starcraft's focus is on the Competitive/Pro scene. Try playing it competitively and I'm sure you'll find it a very challenging and complex game, especially when the mind games and strategy come into play.

[tso 5]

While I think the OP was a pretty terrible post.

I would like to see DayZ stick to it's core design quite a bit, but just like the game was well placed in ARMA 2. (bleeding and bone breaks = awesome)

The humanity aspects will need some creative designs to allow players who got hooked by CHKilroy's type of teamplay to get some fun teamwork in.

[fasthandz 7]

Dayz is doing so well because it is a breath of fresh air. It has been over 10 years since the gaming industry has returned to true hardcore sandbox pvp. If Dayz was another left 4 Dead or any other cheesey zombie game' date=' it would have been forgotten.

What is separating DayZ from the rest is not the zombie factor, its the large open world meets survival of the fittest and player crafting that truly matters. The game could have been mediaeval based and guilds build and create castles, capture horses, hunt for food and claim lands.

Gamers like myself have been waiting for the noob mainstream gaming industry to die and indie / mod developers to pave the way for next generation creative gaming.

Fk call of duty, battlefield, world of warcraft, starcraft and all the other boring unimaginative games that were brought to the market only for profit. This is the game we've been waiting for. You all know who you're, stand your ground against the influx of noob that will cry and try to water your game down. This game is ours

Rocket, keep up the amazing work.

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shut up you fat hipster fuck. Hinting at stripping your guns is so helping the nooby mainstream people.... shut up.

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[RustleBall 0]

What is happening right now' date=' is that despite people saying they don't like "Free to play" games, you guys are shelling out a SHIT-TON of money to those games. If you want to see the future, that's your future.

All I can say, be a smart consumer. Don't just buy shit because everyone else is. Same rules apply to DayZ/ArmA.

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100% agree, also play the games you like and don't rant about games you don't like or the gamers that play them. That show others only that you're an intolerant small-brainer.

I like DayZ thats it, I don't like WoW but thats my opinion, but I also like Minecraft, Battlefield etc. So what?

:|

[masacrualex 6]

Crazy how you act hardcore OP but you say

Fk call of duty, battlefield, world of warcraft, starcraft and all the other boring unimaginative games

Referring to starcraft, bet you'd also mention w3.

[cod3r 1]

YAH!!! fuck profit..

i'm totally with this guy..

[Shimmler 4]

You lost my interest when you said 'Starcraft' was boring and un-original.

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[Goldstein (DayZ) 46]

silly thread.

if a game is groundbreaking and has the ability to change peoples perspectives, then n00bz should be exposed to it to change their perceptions.

else they'll be kept in the dark cloud of.. frigging mass effect. elitism is retarded, you'll learn this with time and as people call you a wanker for using a rediculous vocabulary for similar reasons.

[ArrThePirate 13]

ill do my best to obtain a pirated copy.

Perma-ban for excessive retardation.

I try to avoid the use of memes or the regurgitation of words or phrases said by famous people but...this made me fukn LOL.

Anyway. I don't think the people who play this game are some kind of MASTER GAMING SUPER HARDCORE RACE who plays exclusive games. If DayZ keeps growing, there's gonna be inevitable for many many noobs to at least try the game, but I don't think the game will be watered down to appeal a bigger group of people and that's exactly what makes it so interesting and fresh. I think we all agree right now that the changes this mod needs are just adjustments to polish some game content and mechanics and new features, but I don't think anybody wants this game to be easier.

[rocket 16567]

YAH!!! fuck profit..

I think' date=' if done properly, DayZ can be extremely profitable. I'm no hippie, I think I'm a total realist. But I like to think, I'm going for the big win - trying to think 5-10 years ahead. Not just this development cycle. The big companies, that is what they do - just one cycle at a time (ahem... THQ, may they RIP).

Again, to reiterate. Chose wisely, be an informed consumer. Social media lets you do this now. You don't have to jump on the bandwagon anymore, and that is why sites like IGN and etc... will become irrelevant if they don't start valuing the real power: social media, streamers, youtubers.... basically: you. fucking. guys. The customer.

It's no longer a bullshit marketing statement, it's fact. And I think it is social media that has made that happen. What I love about it, is that now it means I can talk directly to you as a developer, argue with you, get mad, and all that. That was never possible before in development, for me at least. It's very liberating.

[FieldMedic 7]

I think CCP and From Software have proven you can profit from unforgiving, challenging titles in the modern day.

[cod3r 1]

Honestly Rocket I don't think you'll be here forever talking to us.

Forums have a way to tear you down, take away all your fucks till you have none to give.

Perfect example is Darkfall. Granted AV is a terrible company, but they abandoned the forums. In a way they had no choice as people continuously thrashed their work.

Eventually it will happen to you. I read an article about it once.. Maybe if I can dig it out I'll post it.\

here it is.. not sure if this was the article i read a long time ago but it sort of explains it: http://jeff-vogel.blogspot.com/2011/01/three-reasons-creators-should-never.html

[thewookie 0]

Mainstream gaming is so mainstream. I only enjoy playing indie games like a good hipster. I don't enjoy playing games I enjoy because they are O SO mainstream.

[rocket 16567]

Honestly Rocket I don't think you'll be here forever talking to us.

People told me I'd loose my spirit when I joined the Air Force at 17.

They said the same thing when I re-enlisted in the Army at 28.

Again when I had to redo all my officer training as part of it.

Again when I got sent on exchange to redo (again) officer training in singapore with 18 year old.

They are saying it again now.

My point, if two branches of the military couldn't break my spirit, resolve, sense of wonder, and disdain for the ordinary and worn path... then I honestly don't think you guys will be able to wear me down.

If I can't be directly connected to you guys, what is the point? I don't have a wife/kids. The thing I value most in life is interaction with people. That is why I like modding. My favorite part of E3 was discussing new concepts with people, watching kids totally ace ArmA3. Seeing all these new concepts, cultures, language, and ways of playing games growing in youth really gave me a kick. I want to be part of that, and that's why I am here.

Really, going forward. That is my one stumbling block with any developer/publisher/venture capitalist wanting to fund this project. Without the creative freedom, blunt honesty, and direct interaction this project is doomed to failure.

[ZedsDeadBaby 2287]

Really' date=' going forward. That is my one stumbling block with any developer/publisher/venture capitalist wanting to fund this project. Without the creative freedom, blunt honesty, and direct interaction this project is doomed to failure.

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Just KickStart it, rocket. You relinquish no control but can still gain a great deal of freedom with the funds provided. I know you feel it's early and I respect your hesitation but at the same time "strike while the iron is hot" is sage advice. Even if you truly feel there's not one thing you could do with a little money to further the project at this moment, you can bank it now and spend it when that time does come.

I for one would pony up $100 or more even if the KS package was just a t-shirt or poster or something.

[Strongarm Steve 1]

I wouldn't add Starcraft to that list. It's got a damn steep learning curve.

Battlefield and CoD, yeah they're mainstream and easy. I trust Rocket not to fuck this up.

[rmackner 0]

I wouldn't add Starcraft to that list. It's got a damn steep learning curve.

Battlefield and CoD' date=' yeah they're mainstream and easy. I trust Rocket not to fuck this up.

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Just keep the perma death and it's wayyy far from mainstream. The only way rocket could mess this up is how he adds more content and the lore of how this all happened.

[alex.vague@gmail.com 0]

People told me I'd loose my spirit when I joined the Air Force at 17.

They said the same thing when I re-enlisted in the Army at 28.

Again when I had to redo all my officer training as part of it.

Again when I got sent on exchange to redo (again) officer training in singapore with 18 year old.

A bit off topic but were you in the NZDF? I was in the RNZAMC for a few years and am now in the UK forces. I have fond memories of using the simulator suite (running VBS if I recall correctly) at Linton - is that what got you interested in working with BIS?

[Bucket (DayZ) 0]

Just KickStart it' date=' rocket. You relinquish no control but can still gain a great deal of freedom with the funds provided. I know you feel it's early and I respect your hesitation but at the same time "strike while the iron is hot" is sage advice. Even if you truly feel there's not one thing you could do with a little money to further the project at this moment, you can bank it now and spend it when that time does come.

I for one would pony up $100 or more even if the KS package was just a t-shirt or poster or something.

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Seconded. Great suggestion.

[drayson 158]

I would put into a kick-starter that's for sure.