Community Banlist

[(OCN)Vortech 65]

Sure, I play quite a bit of DayZ, at home and at work...... there's at least 1 hacker on every server all hours of the day and in most cases more then 1. Then there's the abusive admins who in most instances can be classified as basement dwelling children who never see the light of day and care how big their e-peen is. These are the people you, I and everyone else play with. Most of these people will get really butt hurt if you kill them. And you know what? I'm sure quite a few of them act similar to this kid:

So yes, as we have already seen, people are being added to this "CBL" over hurt feelings in-game. The process to get removed isn't very intuitive at all as you have to rely on another end-user (gamer) to sort through the hundreds of other appeals and hope you get removed. For anyone who gets pasted onto this "community", I feel for you. The worst thing a game can allow is empowering it's players with the ability to police eachother, too many egos and hurt feelings to keep the abuse from happening.

It's unfortunate that you'd rather rant then participate in an actual discussion.. It's unfortunate I took the time, I won't waste time disproving all of your arguments moving forward. Do me a favor, show me where "we have already seen, people are being added to this "CBL" over hurt feelings in-game" I missed those incidents.

What isn't intuitive about the process to dispute a ban? There's is a link "Ban-Appeal" in every post for those who can't figure out how to search, email, or simply post an issue to the list themselves.

You're clearly don't understand the situation, are you even an administrator?

Edited August 23, 2012 by (OCN)Vortech

[SneekyPete3 0]

Not to single you out but I don't know what people are going on about.. Are you SOOOO cynical that you think somebody really cares enough to not only ban you locally BUT go through the trouble of fabricating a post and submitting it to a community list? A list that can easily be disputed? Have you played Minecraft? Do you know how that 7,100,898 strong community polices itself with 3rd party banning solutions? Do you know how you get added to those lists? BY TYPING IN THE ABUSERS NAME!?! Do people abuse the system, sure.. It's as simple as typing in a username. They allow disputes and the community manages itself and lives on. I'm tired of cynics exaggerate the worst possible scenario as if it's happening by the minute. When the list was being updated daily I did not see a single justified dispute trigger a name come off.

I've said this before more eloquently but.. You don't jeopardize every server by passing on a system like this. The CBL is all about the great good and the majority of users enjoying themselves on our servers free of interruption by cheaters. You get banned? Then dispute it and let the logs do the talking.

It's not cynicism, Its really happening. I myself am a victim of this at the moment. The problem is that if someone really does get angry about losing their gear or something, there is absolutely no repercussion to submitting a false claim.

Did I do anything wrong? Absolutely not.

Am I banned from most servers? Yes.

Am i going to be unbanned? Hopefully, I don't know. I'm just a member of the community, I have no power over this.

Did the person who banned me achieve his goal with little effort? Yes.

Whether or not I am unbanned isn't even the core issue. The issue is that some butt-hurt admin can prevent me from playing my favorite game based on pure conjecture. So what little grief I caused him by killing him or looting his gear pales in comparison to what I am experiencing, simply because this "community ban list" is poorly moderated and unprofessional. Even if the gods do looketh down upon me with mercy and i do get unbanned, nothing will happen to this A**hole who got me banned in the first place.

If this was a real service, something professional like Xbox live, I could make phone calls or send emails and get an immediate response. With this crap, im sitting here for days, filing through the outdated servers trying to find a place to play.

Thanks a lot, community.

Edited August 23, 2012 by SneekyPete3

[vandrel 36]

It's unfortunate that you'd rather rant then participate in an actual discussion.. It's unfortunate I took the time, I won't waste time disproving all of your arguments moving forward. Do me a favor, show me where "we have already seen, people are being added to this "CBL" over hurt feelings in-game" I missed those incidents.

What isn't intuitive about the process to dispute a ban? There's is a link "Ban-Appeal" in every post for those who can't figure out how to search, email, or simply post an issue to the list themselves.

You're clearly don't understand the situation, are you even an administrator?

I'm not ranting, if that's what you think I'm doing then you're not understanding the point. No one needs to try and disprove the points I've raised because in the end you can't prove otherwise, it's fact. You along with the rest of the end-users simply do not have the tools to prove if information submitted is true or false, period.

Need to see some evidence? Here's a starting point: http://dayzmod.com/f...mmunity-banned/ . Feel free to use the search button and find more, there's plenty going around since this little "CBL" project was posted here.

Now, I'll ask the hard question since you question if I'm a "administrator",

arma2oaserver.RPT

1) I have emailed/posted the following to be added to the "CBL", please explain how you would verify that this information is indeed true in it's entirety and that I have not tampered with any of the text?

14:30:38 "WRITE: ['PASS']"
14:30:52 "WRITE: ['PASS']"
14:30:56 "LOGIN ATTEMPT: "49854214" Fred"
14:30:56 "READ/WRITE: ['PASS',false,'28442454',[147,[4712.23,10214.3,9.12323]],[["ItemFlashlight","ItemKnife","ItemToolbox","ItemMap","ItemHatchet","ItemFlashlightRed","ItemWatch","glock17_EP1","ItemEtool","NVGoggles","ItemCompass","ItemGPS","Binocular_Vector","BAF_AS50_scoped"],["HandGrenade_West","ItemPainkiller","ItemMorphine","FoodCanPasta","ItemWaterbottle","5Rnd_127x99_as50","5Rnd_127x99_as50","5Rnd_127x99_as50","5Rnd_127x99_as50","30Rnd_556x45_Stanag","30Rnd_556x45_Stanag","5Rnd_127x99_as50","ItemBandage","ItemBandage","17Rnd_9x19_glock17","17Rnd_9x19_glock17","17Rnd_9x19_glock17","17Rnd_9x19_glock17","17Rnd_9x19_glock17","17Rnd_9x19_glock17"]],["DZ_Backpack_EP1",[["BAF_L85A2_RIS_CWS"],[1]],[["ItemBandage","FoodCanBakedBeans","ItemSodaCoke","HandGrenade_West","ItemMorphine","ItemPainkiller","30Rnd_556x45_Stanag"],[1,1,1,1,1,1,1]]],[813,953,953],Rocket_DZ,0.94]"
14:30:56 "LOGIN LOADED: B 1-1-A:42 (Fred) REMOTE Type: Rocket_DZ"
14:30:57 Server: Object 76:6 not found (message 94)
14:30:57 "READ/WRITE: ['PASS',[false,false,false,false,false,false,true,12000,[],[0.0971555,0],0,[1124.54,439.544]],[56,35,0,0],["BG36_c_SD_eotech,"amovppnemstpsraswrfldnon",42],[147,[4712.23,10214.3,9.12323]],-16271]"
14:30:57 "LOGIN PUBLISHING: B 1-1-H:1 (Fred) REMOTE Type: Rocket_DZ"
14:30:58 "WRITE: ['PASS']"
14:30:59 "WRITE: ['PASS']"

scripts.log

2) I have emailed/posted the following to be added to the "CBL", please explain how you would verify that this information is indeed true in it's entirety and that I have not tampered with any of the text?

22.08.2012 00:58:29: Byron LeBro (67.169.224.220:2404) a864f153117c6c10b7e3742a7265685b - #132 "isDedicated"
22.08.2012 01:41:25: Doroock (190.20.164.210:2404) c56893ce1d98b35f0e0fca57d748e7d3 - #0 "[] spawn{player addAction ['Heal', 'C:\Users\Dorellana\Desktop\Scripts\heal.sqf'];
player addAction"
22.08.2012 01:41:25: Doroock (190.20.164.210:2404) c56893ce1d98b35f0e0fca57d748e7d3 - #106 "Weapon', 'C:\Users\Dorellana\Desktop\Scripts\addweapon.sqf'];
player addAction ['Spawn Medical Item"
22.08.2012 01:41:25: Doroock (190.20.164.210:2404) c56893ce1d98b35f0e0fca57d748e7d3 - #197 "hield', 'C:\Users\Dorellana\Desktop\Scripts\zombieshield.sqf'];
player addAction ['Player Shield', "
22.08.2012 01:49:22: Keita (58.94.228.247:2304) 168eb2f2b5a4e53a32a60662182a5490 - #132 "isDedicated"

I do challenge you to please prove me wrong. Please, tell me how you can prove that the above has not been tampered with at all and is infact true in nature. How can you as a end-user (customer) prove that all of this is factual information, even if I send you the logs?

Edited August 23, 2012 by Vandrel

[(OCN)Vortech 65]

Anyone else who has doubts about a community powered banning solution then please reference any of the following urls http://www.mcbans.com, http://mcbouncer.com, http://www.bcbans.com, https://mcblock.it, or http://minebans.com/home.html .

It's not cynicism, Its really happening. I myself am a victim of this at the moment. The problem is that if someone really does get angry about losing their gear or something, there is absolutely no repercussion to submitting a false claim.

Did I do anything wrong? Absolutely not.

Am I banned from most servers? Yes.

Am i going to be unbanned? Hopefully, I don't know. I'm just a member of the community, I have no power over this.

Did the person who banned me achieve his goal with little effort? Yes.

Whether or not I am unbanned isn't even the core issue. The issue is that some butt-hurt admin can prevent me from playing my favorite game based on pure conjecture. So what little grief I caused him by killing him or looting his gear pales in comparison to what I am experiencing, simply because this "community ban list" is poorly moderated and unprofessional. Even if the gods do looketh down upon me with mercy and i do get unbanned, nothing will happen to this A**hole who got me banned in the first place.

If this was a real service, something professional like Xbox live, I could make phone calls or send emails and get an immediate response. With this crap, im sitting here for days, filing through the outdated servers trying to find a place to play.

Thanks a lot, community.

Yeah I'm still thinking it's cynicism but can you share the offending log that you believe was a falsified? If they haven't provided did you search against the list with you GUID, IP, or IGN? As far as the rest of your post goes there's no point commenting at this time as you haven't provided the logs and it's primarily exaggerated and opinionated. The CBL is new and evolving still and more importantly the filters are new and still being dialed in. You definitely need to crack a few eggs and while you probably won't appreciate this you represent one out of 973 GUIDs.

I understand you're angry and your situation is definitely frustrating but if your situation proves to be malicious I'm positive they'll develop repercussions if there aren't some already.

I'm not ranting, if that's what you think I'm doing then you're not understanding the point. No one needs to try and disprove the points I've raised because in the end you can't prove otherwise, it's fact. You along with the rest of the end-users simply do not have the tools to prove if information submitted is true or false, period.

Need to see some evidence? Here's a starting point: http://dayzmod.com/f...mmunity-banned/ . Feel free to use the search button and find more, there's plenty going around since this little "CBL" project was posted here.

Now, I'll ask the hard question since you question if I'm a "administrator",

arma2oaserver.RPT

1) I have emailed/posted the following to be added to the "CBL", please explain how you would verify that this information is indeed true in it's entirety and that I have not tampered with any of the text?

14:30:38 "WRITE: ['PASS']"
14:30:52 "WRITE: ['PASS']"
14:30:56 "LOGIN ATTEMPT: "49854214" Fred"
14:30:56 "READ/WRITE: ['PASS',false,'28442454',[147,[4712.23,10214.3,9.12323]],[["ItemFlashlight","ItemKnife","ItemToolbox","ItemMap","ItemHatchet","ItemFlashlightRed","ItemWatch","glock17_EP1","ItemEtool","NVGoggles","ItemCompass","ItemGPS","Binocular_Vector","BAF_AS50_scoped"],["HandGrenade_West","ItemPainkiller","ItemMorphine","FoodCanPasta","ItemWaterbottle","5Rnd_127x99_as50","5Rnd_127x99_as50","5Rnd_127x99_as50","5Rnd_127x99_as50","30Rnd_556x45_Stanag","30Rnd_556x45_Stanag","5Rnd_127x99_as50","ItemBandage","ItemBandage","17Rnd_9x19_glock17","17Rnd_9x19_glock17","17Rnd_9x19_glock17","17Rnd_9x19_glock17","17Rnd_9x19_glock17","17Rnd_9x19_glock17"]],["DZ_Backpack_EP1",[["BAF_L85A2_RIS_CWS"],[1]],[["ItemBandage","FoodCanBakedBeans","ItemSodaCoke","HandGrenade_West","ItemMorphine","ItemPainkiller","30Rnd_556x45_Stanag"],[1,1,1,1,1,1,1]]],[813,953,953],Rocket_DZ,0.94]"
14:30:56 "LOGIN LOADED: B 1-1-A:42 (Fred) REMOTE Type: Rocket_DZ"
14:30:57 Server: Object 76:6 not found (message 94)
14:30:57 "READ/WRITE: ['PASS',[false,false,false,false,false,false,true,12000,[],[0.0971555,0],0,[1124.54,439.544]],[56,35,0,0],["BG36_c_SD_eotech,"amovppnemstpsraswrfldnon",42],[147,[4712.23,10214.3,9.12323]],-16271]"
14:30:57 "LOGIN PUBLISHING: B 1-1-H:1 (Fred) REMOTE Type: Rocket_DZ"
14:30:58 "WRITE: ['PASS']"
14:30:59 "WRITE: ['PASS']"

scripts.log

2) I have emailed/posted the following to be added to the "CBL", please explain how you would verify that this information is indeed true in it's entirety and that I have not tampered with any of the text?

22.08.2012 00:58:29: Byron LeBro (67.169.224.220:2404) a864f153117c6c10b7e3742a7265685b - #132 "isDedicated"
22.08.2012 01:41:25: Doroock (190.20.164.210:2404) c56893ce1d98b35f0e0fca57d748e7d3 - #0 "[] spawn{player addAction ['Heal', 'C:\Users\Dorellana\Desktop\Scripts\heal.sqf'];
player addAction"
22.08.2012 01:41:25: Doroock (190.20.164.210:2404) c56893ce1d98b35f0e0fca57d748e7d3 - #106 "Weapon', 'C:\Users\Dorellana\Desktop\Scripts\addweapon.sqf'];
player addAction ['Spawn Medical Item"
22.08.2012 01:41:25: Doroock (190.20.164.210:2404) c56893ce1d98b35f0e0fca57d748e7d3 - #197 "hield', 'C:\Users\Dorellana\Desktop\Scripts\zombieshield.sqf'];
player addAction ['Player Shield', "
22.08.2012 01:49:22: Keita (58.94.228.247:2304) 168eb2f2b5a4e53a32a60662182a5490 - #132 "isDedicated"

I do challenge you to please prove me wrong. Please, tell me how you can prove that the above has not been tampered with at all and is infact true in nature. How can you as a end-user (customer) prove that all of this is factual information, even if I send you the logs?

You are ranting, every post you make is nothing more then an attempt to further your agenda as you continue to disregard any and all adverse posts. We get your point you're drinking your Kool-Aid and not interested in participating in a conversation because "we can't prove otherwise". The issue is we have and you are choosing not to recognize it.. You are choosing not even to acknowledge it as you likely believe it would jeopardize your message.

You claim we "end-users" don't have the tools? Check these results out (http://code.google.com/p/dayz-community-banlist/issues/list?can=1&q=reporter%3Aoverclocked). Now you gave us one example, someone who happened to post in this thread. That is one out of 971 listed bans, a 99% success rate so far. I'd still say that's worth it, the most recent effort of BIS on the filters combined with this list is making a real positive difference on our servers.

As for your examples it's much of the same you're choosing not participate. The submissions don't need to be verified further then syntax for validity, if a malicious/wrongful ban is issued then a user has the ability to dispute/appeal it. It's not a matter of wrong or right it's a matter of an acceptable end to a means and understanding what it takes to protect the majority of players.

[SaintMerc 73]

It has been said before but i will make it simple.

If you want to appeal a community Ban it is pointless just posting. I was banned (BattlEye: Banned ( W4d9b2182 0x0f44d938)

You need to post your GUID as well. example. GUID 8f2a4a6eba50195a51561d89fc0cf350 BattlEye: Banned W4d9b2182 0x0f44d938

Vandrel the link you posted as show here http://dayzmod.com/f...mmunity-banned/

Has not posted his GUID so how is anyone suppose to check why he got banned.

To get your GUID as posted before goto http://forums.bistud...to-find-my-guid

Only then can someone look into a ban that has been placed and the reason they were banned.

Providing they have not been global banned.

Edited August 24, 2012 by UXFaz

[SneekyPete3 0]

Yeah I'm still thinking it's cynicism but can you share the offending log that you believe was a falsified? If they haven't provided did you search against the list with you GUID, IP, or IGN? As far as the rest of your post goes there's no point commenting at this time as you haven't provided the logs and it's primarily exaggerated and opinionated. The CBL is new and evolving still and more importantly the filters are new and still being dialed in. You definitely need to crack a few eggs and while you probably won't appreciate this you represent one out of 973 GUIDs.

I understand you're angry and your situation is definitely frustrating but if your situation proves to be malicious I'm positive they'll develop repercussions if there aren't some already.

It has been at least a week since my ban, and 3 days since i submitted my log. I have received no response. I would agree with you considering the greater good if the team managing this list was trained and efficient; however, they are not. I am in no way able to contact anyone responsible for managing this list other than submitting a log, which shows little promise of getting any response at all.

You say that there is no need for more evidence other than syntax, i challenge you to say that again after you've been in my shoes. This is incredibly frustrating and unfair. There either needs to be a requirement for more evidence or there needs to be (as suggested) a grey list in addition to the public list. Once a GUID has received multiple ban requests, THEN they are banned. If all it takes is ONE a**hole who knows how to copy+paste, there is a serious problem. If there are many submissions of a single GUID, it would be much more likely that the accused is ACTUALLY a hacker.

Also, 99% success rate? You have absolutely no way of knowing this. It may be closer to 95%, or even 90% for all you know. It may appear to be 99% accurate because it takes ungodly long to remove innocent GUIDs.

That said, it MAY be 99% accurate, it may not be. The point is that YOU don't know that, so don't act like you do.

[vandrel 36]

As for your examples it's much of the same you're choosing not participate. The submissions don't need to be verified further then syntax for validity, if a malicious/wrongful ban is issued then a user has the ability to dispute/appeal it. It's not a matter of wrong or right it's a matter of an acceptable end to a means and understanding what it takes to protect the majority of players.

This is why "CBL" fails

What you are saying is, NOTHING is verified.... only submitted and then banned. My point exactly. Butt hurt little kids who want to get payback cause they lost their gear.

This is why you couldn't answer my questions. You along with the rest of the little "CBL" crew point your ban sticks all over at the community because 1) You do not understand scripting and 2) You do not verify, only simply add and ban.

/golfClap

Long story short, you or one of the other "CBL" cronies can simply slap a ban down based on no verification process at all and then force another end-user to sit and wait in a 248 deep pool of ban appeals. Good work.

For the record, since you didn't read my post, I never said a ban system wouldn't be good. Infact, I stated that it should and only should be controlled by the DayZ staff on a database level. You as a end-user have no business imposing a community-wide ban on another player even more so with your above statement of not even so much as running checks and balances to verify. Your system fails, hard.

Edited August 24, 2012 by Vandrel

[darklight12345 4]

This is getting fucking pathetic. I'm still banned and NO appeal has been looked at that i've seen.

"Anyone else who has doubts about a community powered banning solution then please reference any of the following urls http://www.mcbans.com, http://mcbouncer.com,http://www.bcbans.com, https://mcblock.it, or http://minebans.com/home.html.

If your comparing dayz to minecraft, you already fail. Minecraft is a game in which the only way to piss off a server admin is to break server rules, or hack. Compare to dayz in which the admin is generally actively involved in a competitive sense against other players. basically, your referencing minecraft ban lists is stupid and shows how little you understand.

"Yeah I'm still thinking it's cynicism but can you share the offending log that you believe was a falsified? If they haven't provided did you search against the list with you GUID, IP, or IGN? As far as the rest of your post goes there's no point commenting at this time as you haven't provided the logs and it's primarily exaggerated and opinionated."

So your trying to make him prove something is falsified, yet you refuse to make your admitters verify? So basically, only people who argue against you have to find proof.

"ou are ranting, every post you make is nothing more then an attempt to further your agenda as you continue to disregard any and all adverse posts. We get your point you're drinking your Kool-Aid and not interested in participating in a conversation because "we can't prove otherwise". The issue is we have and you are choosing not to recognize it.. You are choosing not even to acknowledge it as you likely believe it would jeopardize your message."

Your disregarding his entire post without even reading it, because you refuse to believe your wrong. You dont even seem to realize that he's just one of several having this issue.

"You claim we "end-users" don't have the tools? Check these results out (http://code.google.c...ter:overclocked). Now you gave us one example, someone who happened to post in this ..."

What kind of tool is that? you think you've discovered a bypoass or whatever so you are just accepting anyone that contributes a ban with that information or anyone you've found with that information. That's still end-user and not a tool you can use to verify log integrity.

"As for your examples it's much of the same you're choosing not participate. The submissions don't need to be verified further then syntax for validity, if a malicious/wrongful ban is issued then a user has the ability to dispute/appeal it. It's not a matter of wrong or right it's a matter of an acceptable end to a means and understanding what it takes to protect the majority of players

You say this, but neither you nor your team have actually looked at any bans except to approve them blindly.

Edited August 24, 2012 by darklight

[Deltron0 0]

Been over 5 days and I've still not seen any proof as to why I was banned, the fact that this is being entrusted to random members of the community is ridiculous. They can't validate any ban submits as anything can be faked with just a text file. They either need to take more people onto the project or scrap it all together and have something more co-ordinated by the battle-eye staff.

[Ferivich 1]

Hi everyone, I tried to log into a few servers today and was being told I was on the community ban list and I have no idea why. I found my log (468) http://code.google.c...9f946867e7f#468 but it just doesn't tell me what I have done too actually get banned.

The only thing I can think of was about three weeks ago in CA1 I was on a fishing boat, it was destroyed by a helicopter and after I died and it showed "You Are Dead" I left the game too go do something else with the rest of the day.

Would anyone be able too tell me why I am banned?

GUID is

80cd6f2dfe97ba34b944d758bd93fed4

though the link should directly take you where the info should be.

[darklight12345 4]

just so we can play by their rules and to prevent another retarded post about how we should appeal....even though we already did...did you make an official issue?

[Ferivich 1]

Where is the area too make an official issue? I made a thread and was linked here.

[Imsogood 0]

Can anybody tell whats servers are using this ban list?

[darklight12345 4]

Can anybody tell whats servers are using this ban list?

Considering that information is user side, i dont believe anyone can tell you that.

Where is the area too make an official issue? I made a thread and was linked here.

Well, the original post links to http://code.google.com/p/dayz-community-banlist/issues/list to make the official issue, but it never actually says that anywhere and therefore it's not your fault. It would help if you cared enough about your ban to read the thread where this is pointed out more thoroughly though.

[(OCN)Vortech 65]

It has been at least a week since my ban, and 3 days since i submitted my log. I have received no response. I would agree with you considering the greater good if the team managing this list was trained and efficient; however, they are not. I am in no way able to contact anyone responsible for managing this list other than submitting a log, which shows little promise of getting any response at all.

You say that there is no need for more evidence other than syntax, i challenge you to say that again after you've been in my shoes. This is incredibly frustrating and unfair. There either needs to be a requirement for more evidence or there needs to be (as suggested) a grey list in addition to the public list. Once a GUID has received multiple ban requests, THEN they are banned. If all it takes is ONE a**hole who knows how to copy+paste, there is a serious problem. If there are many submissions of a single GUID, it would be much more likely that the accused is ACTUALLY a hacker.

Also, 99% success rate? You have absolutely no way of knowing this. It may be closer to 95%, or even 90% for all you know. It may appear to be 99% accurate because it takes ungodly long to remove innocent GUIDs.

That said, it MAY be 99% accurate, it may not be. The point is that YOU don't know that, so don't act like you do.

From what I'm hearing the maintainer who was designated to review appeals has been away on business. The maintainer has returned and will be reviewing appeals as quickly as possible. I understand how frustrating the situation must be but it should be resolved shortly. I was making a point at that time with the percentage, regardless whatever it actually is the CBL is doing good for the community just like you said. I'm sure the CBL and contributing will continue to evolve.

This is getting fucking pathetic. I'm still banned and NO appeal has been looked at that i've seen.

"Anyone else who has doubts about a community powered banning solution then please reference any of the following urls http://www.mcbans.com, http://mcbouncer.com,http://www.bcbans.com, https://mcblock.it, or http://minebans.com/home.html.

If your comparing dayz to minecraft, you already fail. Minecraft is a game in which the only way to piss off a server admin is to break server rules, or hack. Compare to dayz in which the admin is generally actively involved in a competitive sense against other players. basically, your referencing minecraft ban lists is stupid and shows how little you understand.

"Yeah I'm still thinking it's cynicism but can you share the offending log that you believe was a falsified? If they haven't provided did you search against the list with you GUID, IP, or IGN? As far as the rest of your post goes there's no point commenting at this time as you haven't provided the logs and it's primarily exaggerated and opinionated."

So your trying to make him prove something is falsified, yet you refuse to make your admitters verify? So basically, only people who argue against you have to find proof.

"ou are ranting, every post you make is nothing more then an attempt to further your agenda as you continue to disregard any and all adverse posts. We get your point you're drinking your Kool-Aid and not interested in participating in a conversation because "we can't prove otherwise". The issue is we have and you are choosing not to recognize it.. You are choosing not even to acknowledge it as you likely believe it would jeopardize your message."

Your disregarding his entire post without even reading it, because you refuse to believe your wrong. You dont even seem to realize that he's just one of several having this issue.

"You claim we "end-users" don't have the tools? Check these results out (http://code.google.c...ter:overclocked). Now you gave us one example, someone who happened to post in this ..."

What kind of tool is that? you think you've discovered a bypoass or whatever so you are just accepting anyone that contributes a ban with that information or anyone you've found with that information. That's still end-user and not a tool you can use to verify log integrity.

"As for your examples it's much of the same you're choosing not participate. The submissions don't need to be verified further then syntax for validity, if a malicious/wrongful ban is issued then a user has the ability to dispute/appeal it. It's not a matter of wrong or right it's a matter of an acceptable end to a means and understanding what it takes to protect the majority of players

You say this, but neither you nor your team have actually looked at any bans except to approve them blindly.

So much fail.. where to begin :/ First of all appeals will be reviewed soon, so that'll be over soon. If you'd like me to look into it PM me your GUID, I'll look at the log for you and let you know my opinion.

Minecraft has PVP.. welcome to 2011 >.> Many server utilize economies.. There is much more at risk and many ways to disrupt a server in Minecraft. All that being said, that is why their system would be under much more scrutiny yet it isn't.. They've done a great job policing their own community. I don't blame you for not knowing, not everyone plays Minecraft. We have two very large servers we host and our creative server with a 16+GB world file is often a target of wanna-be-griefers. We get them sorted rather quickly and have lots of experience with the process.

It's easy to cry worlf, falsifying submissions would require time, and effort. At the volume some servers submit them I doubt they have time to play, rage, and falsify a submission. The thing that really matters is most submissions aren't disputed.. Cheaters don't waste their time.. The few sociopaths that do maybe get removed BUT when they get caught again.. They'd be done. Almost 1000 bans and only a handful of appeals, seems pretty effective to me.

That tool is us, those are our submissions to the CBL. We identify log entries and submit BIS recognized entries to the CBL. The fact BIS chooses to flag them is verification step 1 then we look over other entries and determine validity as step 2. If a user meets our requirements for submission to send it up to the CBL who then does their own verification.

I read over your replay and all the others I thought I could help in some way. In the future please don't reply inside a quote, it makes it harder to respond.

Been over 5 days and I've still not seen any proof as to why I was banned, the fact that this is being entrusted to random members of the community is ridiculous. They can't validate any ban submits as anything can be faked with just a text file. They either need to take more people onto the project or scrap it all together and have something more co-ordinated by the battle-eye staff.

Please see the above about your wait, it sucks, but should be over soon. The bans are likely validated by the fact they're accepted.. I imagine to be accepted they take into account time stamps, validity of log (if known/recognized), and I'm sure they consider the server who submitted. IMO that's enough to justify a commit, if all those fail then the banned user can simply appeal the ban and it'll all go under review.

Hi everyone, I tried to log into a few servers today and was being told I was on the community ban list and I have no idea why. I found my log (468) http://code.google.c...9f946867e7f#468 but it just doesn't tell me what I have done too actually get banned.

The only thing I can think of was about three weeks ago in CA1 I was on a fishing boat, it was destroyed by a helicopter and after I died and it showed "You Are Dead" I left the game too go do something else with the rest of the day.

Would anyone be able too tell me why I am banned?

GUID is

80cd6f2dfe97ba34b944d758bd93fed4

though the link should directly take you where the info should be.

That GUID is not listed on the CBL (http://code.google.com/p/dayz-community-banlist/issues/list?can=1&q=80cd6f2dfe97ba34b944d758bd93fed4&colspec=ID+Type+Status+Priority+Milestone+Owner+Summary&cells=tiles) you must have received some other form of ban. If you need help post the message you see when you connect to servers here.

just so we can play by their rules and to prevent another retarded post about how we should appeal....even though we already did...did you make an official issue?

To appeal I'd recommend search by all issues (http://code.google.com/p/dayz-community-banlist/issues/list?can=1&q=&colspec=ID+Type+Status+Priority+Milestone+Owner+Summary&cells=tiles) typing in your GUID. When you find the submission with your log in it click "Ban-Appeal" on the left and appeal.

Where is the area too make an official issue? I made a thread and was linked here.

To post an issue (http://code.google.com/p/dayz-community-banlist/issues/entry), note I'm not sure that is the intended use though. See above for how to properly appeal a ban.

Can anybody tell whats servers are using this ban list?

Not yet, I'd like to see a listing. Upon joining any of our server we include a notification in our MOTD. Players will visit because they know it's safe and cheaters won't waste their time risking their GUID.

[darklight12345 4]

From what I'm hearing the maintainer who was designated to review appeals has been away on business. The maintainer has returned and will be reviewing appeals as quickly as possible. I understand how frustrating the situation must be but it should be resolved shortly. I was making a point at that time with the percentage, regardless whatever it actually is the CBL is doing good for the community just like you said. I'm sure the CBL and contributing will continue to evolve.

So basically the guy in charge of appeals left...and didn't bother to tell anyone? And if he did tell people, noone bothered to take over? Just another reason why these people should NOT be in charge.

So much fail.. where to begin :/ First of all appeals will be reviewed soon, so that'll be over soon. If you'd like me to look into it PM me your GUID, I'll look at the log for you and let you know my opinion.

"reviewed soon" good, took long enough.15a809bb3d2f4efc6f688126f07213d9 is my GUID. There is no submission that i could find with my GUID or username.

It's easy to cry worlf, falsifying submissions would require time, and effort.

eh? time and efffort? It took me less then 30 seconds to create my example false log.

That GUID is not listed on the CBL (http://code.google.c...ary&cells=tiles) you must have received some other form of ban. If you need help post the message you see when you connect to servers here.

It's not in the submissions, but it's on the banlist for certain. number 468 http://code.google.c...9f946867e7f#468

If you dont even know how to access the banlist....

Edited August 27, 2012 by darklight

[ZiiP_Scottyboy 17]

Maybe submissions or appeals are verified against hive logs. But maybe thats just wishful thinking.

[darklight12345 4]

Maybe submissions or appeals are verified against hive logs. But maybe thats just wishful thinking.

they dont have access to the BE side of things, which is what matters.

[(OCN)Vortech 65]

So basically the guy in charge of appeals left...and didn't bother to tell anyone? And if he did tell people, noone bothered to take over? Just another reason why these people should NOT be in charge.

"reviewed soon" good, took long enough.15a809bb3d2f4efc6f688126f07213d9 is my GUID. There is no submission that i could find with my GUID or username.

eh? time and efffort? It took me less then 30 seconds to create my example false log.

It's not in the submissions, but it's on the banlist for certain. number 468 http://code.google.c...9f946867e7f#468

If you dont even know how to access the banlist....

If not people then who? Somebody doesn't work here. Have you ever looked at who the contributors and committers are? http://code.google.com/p/dayz-community-banlist/people/list

Thanks for sharing the GUID there are around 1k GUIDs listed but only 300+ in submissions. If you read over the mission statement they talk about that delta:

Please note that while we rechecked most log files, there may be a few false-positives due to cheaters executing scripts across clients before this was effectively logged by battleye and simply due to the nature of this collaborative project. We have striven to eliminate most edge cases. We have quite a few bans that were issued for continued "abusive behavior", like consistent defamatory or derogatory chat messages. We will repeal those, though, if people ask and show remorse for their previous actions. In general, if someone wishes to appeal, they should open an issue ticket on this page. We'll then look into our files again.

I'll bet you were grandfathered in, and it was for abusive behavior or something. One of the rare exceptions they forecasted.. I find it hilarious you're not even subject to a ban based on submissions. The whole time you've been arguing a position playing victim about something that never even effected you!

Either way like I said it'll be reviewed soon.. It sucks you had to be banned for the list to do its job but you'll be off it soon if everything checks out. Good luck.

[ZiiP_Scottyboy 17]

Its not done through BE.

Im just wondering though if the lead people who approve a submission or indeed appeal review have access to the main server database. The hive a dayz. Ive seen names banded about who are close to bi and dayz.

[vandrel 36]

So much fail.. where to begin

It's easy to cry worlf, falsifying submissions would require time, and effort. At the volume some servers submit them I doubt they have time to play, rage, and falsify a submission. The thing that really matters is most submissions aren't disputed.. Cheaters don't waste their time.. The few sociopaths that do maybe get removed BUT when they get caught again.. They'd be done. Almost 1000 bans and only a handful of appeals, seems pretty effective to me.

That tool is us, those are our submissions to the CBL. We identify log entries and submit BIS recognized entries to the CBL. The fact BIS chooses to flag them is verification step 1 then we look over other entries and determine validity as step 2. If a user meets our requirements for submission to send it up to the CBL who then does their own verification.

Please see the above about your wait, it sucks, but should be over soon. The bans are likely validated by the fact they're accepted.. I imagine to be accepted they take into account time stamps, validity of log (if known/recognized), and I'm sure they consider the server who submitted. IMO that's enough to justify a commit, if all those fail then the banned user can simply appeal the ban and it'll all go under review.

Not yet, I'd like to see a listing. Upon joining any of our server we include a notification in our MOTD. Players will visit because they know it's safe and cheaters won't waste their time risking their GUID.

Actually there is more fail in your post then what's been seen before. You can simply revert back to my previous response to you that you completely chose to ignore since you couldn't answer my questions. Infact your main response was simply "You are ranting", when infact I'm simply pointing out the flaws in your little player-driven system that is an attempt to police other players (customers policing customers).

http://dayzmod.com/f..._40#entry754307 > Incase you forgot

Once you've successfully managed to answer my "tough questions" then you can have a leg to stand on but until then you and the rest of the CBL cronies are no better then the script kids.

Lastly, WHO exactly at Bohemia is doing this "flagging" for you? Bohemia as a company is not supporting this little "CBL" project, it's completely end-user managed and supported. Until CBL is included in a release build then it's simply not supported and quite frankly never will be. None of this banning crap is done by Bohemia, it's all BattleEye driven and managed, so to say that we are flagging your stuff is completely false.

Again, this sort of thing has no business being under you or any other player (end-user)'s control. It's something that should be managed by DayZ staff on a database level and not by kids with dedicated servers who want to swing ban hammers around like they are Caesar.

Furthermore, I refrain from playing on CBL servers as I have no desire for my GUID to end up on "the list" because some snot nosed little kid with his dedicated server paid or by his mom gets upset that I shot him in the face from 800 meters away with a .50 Cal and took his LEET gear. No thanks.

And just one last time incase you forgot..... http://dayzmod.com/f..._40#entry754307

Its not done through BE.

Im just wondering though if the lead people who approve a submission or indeed appeal review have access to the main server database. The hive a dayz. Ive seen names banded about who are close to bi and dayz.

The CBL cronies have no ties to the DayZ mod, project or staff. It's 100% driven by other players like you and anyone else out there who owns the game or has a server. End-users, period. They do not have access to the HIVE and thus cannot validate appropriately, only take a stab in the dark and cross their fingers.

Edited August 27, 2012 by Vandrel

[jwiechers 92]

I think these guys bit off a little more then they could chew and are only now realizing the time involved in management of something like this. Too many false bannings due to someone's e-feelings getting hurt cause they died and lost their leet gear.

Not really, I was perfectly aware of that -- and still are. You guys just seem to live in a magic fairyland where people don't have real life work to do that takes precedent -- and sorry, we're fairly confident about most of the bans on the list, even though some are for legacy reasons that we do not currently add bans for (mostly abusive chat behavior). If someone was banned for that and he appeals, we've so far always removed the ban.

As for false positives, fully 60% of the list have at least two reports from different admins and around 40% have reports from at least three, about 20% have five or more reports.

Crap like this is all that one would have to send in for a person to get added to the naughty list:

You assume we trust just anyone -- which we don't; unless the people have a certain reputation with us with regard to reporting bans, their logs have simply been added to a little database that I've now coded up and which will flag anything that comes up more than once or twice -- in a rudimentary form, that had been present even before, but it's now more automated.

Again, this sort of thing has no business being under you or any other player (end-user)'s control. It's something that should be managed by DayZ staff on a database level and not by kids with dedicated servers who want to swing ban hammers around like they are Caesar.

You seem not to understand the term "community." This is meant as an auxiliary ban list based on reasonable efforts by fairly experienced admins. It's not perfect, but it's a lot more effective than waiting for some magic way to curb widespread cheating. For the most parts, the few ban appeals we have received were by people who weren't even on our list; the bans we have removed were either from tonic's original list (which we had pruned significantly already) or handed out for substantially abusive chat behaviour. In those cases, we remove them as well, unless it's something really major and we no longer typically add people based on chat abuse.

Edited August 27, 2012 by jwiechers

[(OCN)Vortech 65]

FYI CBL has been cleared so we'll see how those appeals work out.

Actually there is more fail in your post then what's been seen before. You can simply revert back to my previous response to you that you completely chose to ignore since you couldn't answer my questions. Infact your main response was simply "You are ranting", when infact I'm simply pointing out the flaws in your little player-driven system that is an attempt to police other players (customers policing customers).

http://dayzmod.com/f..._40#entry754307 > Incase you forgot

Once you've successfully managed to answer my "tough questions" then you can have a leg to stand on but until then you and the rest of the CBL cronies are no better then the script kids.

Lastly, WHO exactly at Bohemia is doing this "flagging" for you? Bohemia as a company is not supporting this little "CBL" project, it's completely end-user managed and supported. Until CBL is included in a release build then it's simply not supported and quite frankly never will be. None of this banning crap is done by Bohemia, it's all BattleEye driven and managed, so to say that we are flagging your stuff is completely false.

Again, this sort of thing has no business being under you or any other player (end-user)'s control. It's something that should be managed by DayZ staff on a database level and not by kids with dedicated servers who want to swing ban hammers around like they are Caesar.

Furthermore, I refrain from playing on CBL servers as I have no desire for my GUID to end up on "the list" because some snot nosed little kid with his dedicated server paid or by his mom gets upset that I shot him in the face from 800 meters away with a .50 Cal and took his LEET gear. No thanks.

And just one last time incase you forgot..... http://dayzmod.com/f..._40#entry754307

The CBL cronies have no ties to the DayZ mod, project or staff. It's 100% driven by other players like you and anyone else out there who owns the game or has a server. End-users, period. They do not have access to the HIVE and thus cannot validate appropriately, only take a stab in the dark and cross their fingers.

lol I didn't waste my time because it was obvious you had no clue what you were talking about.. I refuse taking time to make a further fool out of you when you're already doing such a great job on your own. Where are these tough questions? You've got a user claiming he was wrongfully banned, some rpt entries that mean nothing, and badly forged script.txt logs..?

Take a moment to actually read the mission statement http://code.google.com/p/dayz-community-banlist and you will find the information which you seek.

It's obvious now that you are in fact delusional and I don't think anyone can help you any further.. Nothing personal but you can't fix stupid bud. Good luck to you and enjoy your time in DayZ.

Edited August 27, 2012 by (OCN)Vortech

[vandrel 36]

You assume we trust just anyone -- which we don't; unless the people have a certain reputation with us with regard to reporting bans, their logs have simply been added to a little database that I've now coded up and which will flag anything that comes up more than once or twice -- in a rudimentary form, that had been present even before, but it's now more automated.

You seem not to understand the term "community."

I understand quite clearly.

What would prevent, say, an entire clan of butt hurt little 16 year olds submitting a slew of falsified logs just to get a specific person banned? All they'd have to do is claim to be admin on "XYZ" server and that apparently meets your criteria, and I suppose as you say even automation. How do you verify if someone is indeed a server admin?

FYI CBL has been cleared so we'll see how those appeals work out.

lol I didn't waste my time because it was obvious you had no clue what you were talking about.. I refuse taking time to make a further fool out of you when you're already doing such a great job on your own. Where are these tough questions? You've got a user claiming he was wrongfully banned, some rpt entries that mean nothing, and badly forged script.txt logs..?

Take a moment to actually read the mission statement http://code.google.c...mmunity-banlist and you will find the information which you seek.

It's obvious now that you are in fact delusional and I don't think anyone can help you any further.. Nothing personal but you can't fix stupid bud. Good luck to you and enjoy your time in DayZ.

You didn't waste your time because, again, you can't answer the questions.

A fool out of me? heh, your comment on "badly forged script.txt logs" says a lot about you. I'll give you a hint there kiddo, those were a direct copy/paste from a server hosted by Multiplay, all I did was change the GUID's and a few classnames.

You've missed the point entirely, again. I don't need helping, I'm not in need of help.... I'm a helper, it's what I do for a living. If you think I'm reaching out for help from you or anyone else then you clearly do not read anything at all, much like the blind reporting system you submit your data to. You even said yourself you don't validate, you simply submit based on questionable activity.

Edited August 27, 2012 by Vandrel

[(OCN)Vortech 65]

CBL just updated the bans list 100+ mode added! Thanks to everyone at the CBL for all the hard work, the effects should be felt across all DayZ server very soon.

I understand quite clearly.

What would prevent, say, an entire clan of butt hurt little 16 year olds submitting a slew of falsified logs just to get a specific person banned? All they'd have to do is claim to be admin on "XYZ" server and that apparently meets your criteria, and I suppose as you say even automation. How do you verify if someone is indeed a server admin?

You didn't waste your time because, again, you can't answer the questions.

A fool out of me? heh, your comment on "badly forged script.txt logs" says a lot about you. I'll give you a hint there kiddo, those were a direct copy/paste from a server hosted by Multiplay, all I did was change the GUID's and a few classnames.

You've missed the point entirely, again. I don't need helping, I'm not in need of help.... I'm a helper, it's what I do for a living. If you think I'm reaching out for help from you or anyone else then you clearly do not read anything at all, much like the blind reporting system you submit your data to. You even said yourself you don't validate, you simply submit based on questionable activity.

If you say something enough maybe they'll come true ehh? lol you continue to not read the posts and attempt to speak generally, maybe somebody will buy what you're selling kiddo. lmao! we're about the same age btw, you just seem to act like a child for some reason.. Since you're not understanding getting it, I'll give it one last try.

What would prevent an entire clan of "butt hurt little 16 year olds" (really?) "submitting a slew of falsified logs".. The very fact that YOU lack the ability to prepare a proper example of a falsified log proves the "butt hurt" likely couldn't either.. You'r grasping at straws still, just take off the tinfoil hat already!

You assume we trust just anyone -- which we don't; unless the people have a certain reputation with us with regard to reporting bans, their logs have simply been added to a little database that I've now coded up and which will flag anything that comes up more than once or twice -- in a rudimentary form, that had been present even before, but it's now more automated.

As for false positives, fully 60% of the list have at least two reports from different admins and around 40% have reports from at least three, about 20% have five or more reports.

Sounds great, the best just keep on getting better!

Now for your examples:

4:30:38 "WRITE: ['PASS']"
14:30:52 "WRITE: ['PASS']"
14:30:56 "LOGIN ATTEMPT: "49854214" Fred"
14:30:56 "READ/WRITE: ['PASS',false,'28442454',[147,[4712.23,10214.3,9.12323]],[["ItemFlashlight","ItemKnife","ItemToolbox","ItemMap","ItemHatchet","ItemFlashlightRed","ItemWatch","glock17_EP1","ItemEtool","NVGoggles","ItemCompass","ItemGPS","Binocular_Vector","BAF_AS50_scoped"],["HandGrenade_West","ItemPainkiller","ItemMorphine","FoodCanPasta","ItemWaterbottle","5Rnd_127x99_as50","5Rnd_127x99_as50","5Rnd_127x99_as50","5Rnd_127x99_as50","30Rnd_556x45_Stanag","30Rnd_556x45_Stanag","5Rnd_127x99_as50","ItemBandage","ItemBandage","17Rnd_9x19_glock17","17Rnd_9x19_glock17","17Rnd_9x19_glock17","17Rnd_9x19_glock17","17Rnd_9x19_glock17","17Rnd_9x19_glock17"]],["DZ_Backpack_EP1",[["BAF_L85A2_RIS_CWS"],[1]],[["ItemBandage","FoodCanBakedBeans","ItemSodaCoke","HandGrenade_West","ItemMorphine","ItemPainkiller","30Rnd_556x45_Stanag"],[1,1,1,1,1,1,1]]],[813,953,953],Rocket_DZ,0.94]"
14:30:56 "LOGIN LOADED: B 1-1-A:42 (Fred) REMOTE Type: Rocket_DZ"
14:30:57 Server: Object 76:6 not found (message 94)
14:30:57 "READ/WRITE: ['PASS',[false,false,false,false,false,false,true,12000,[],[0.0971555,0],0,[1124.54,439.544]],[56,35,0,0],["BG36_c_SD_eotech,"amovppnemstpsraswrfldnon",42],[147,[4712.23,10214.3,9.12323]],-16271]"
14:30:57 "LOGIN PUBLISHING: B 1-1-H:1 (Fred) REMOTE Type: Rocket_DZ"
14:30:58 "WRITE: ['PASS']"
14:30:59 "WRITE: ['PASS']"

No need to verify *.rpt because no admin should be banning based on *.rpt lol! At best the *.rpt is best used for subsequent data for a player you're already researching. An example would be comparing time stamps against a creatvehicle spam of grenades or pipebombs. What's interesting about yours is that the Rocket_DZ which would be the one exception to ban on sight in the *.rpt I can think of atm.

22.08.2012 00:58:29: Byron LeBro (67.169.224.220:2404) a864f153117c6c10b7e3742a7265685b - #132 "isDedicated"
22.08.2012 01:41:25: Doroock (190.20.164.210:2404) c56893ce1d98b35f0e0fca57d748e7d3 - #0 "[] spawn{player addAction ['Heal', 'C:\Users\Dorellana\Desktop\Scripts\heal.sqf'];
player addAction"
22.08.2012 01:41:25: Doroock (190.20.164.210:2404) c56893ce1d98b35f0e0fca57d748e7d3 - #106 "Weapon', 'C:\Users\Dorellana\Desktop\Scripts\addweapon.sqf'];
player addAction ['Spawn Medical Item"
22.08.2012 01:41:25: Doroock (190.20.164.210:2404) c56893ce1d98b35f0e0fca57d748e7d3 - #197 "hield', 'C:\Users\Dorellana\Desktop\Scripts\zombieshield.sqf'];
player addAction ['Player Shield', "
22.08.2012 01:49:22: Keita (58.94.228.247:2304) 168eb2f2b5a4e53a32a60662182a5490 - #132 "isDedicated"

FYI in your scripts.log out of those 5 entries only 3 matter. I can't speak for the CBL team on their process see the above for the details Jens provided. Personally though I'd compare it against known entries/executions, note the time stamps, and issue a ban. If the player is wrongfully banned they can issue an appeal. If they have no other reports then they get the ban removed.. Take note and act accordingly if further reports come in. Rinse repeat, sounds pretty simple.

lol, I assumed it was poorly forged due to those directories.. Wow! Out of the 80+ GUID's we've submitted I've never seen such a poor attempt to execute scripts! lmao! He made it too easy :D It's also worth mentioning while a portion of your point is how unsophisticated those entries are hence easily falsified.. They'd just as easily be flagged and have multiple submissions if true. I don't remember ever seeing such poor executions in any of our logs.

much like the blind reporting system you submit your data to. You even said yourself you don't validate, you simply submit based on questionable activity.

I think Jens disproved your blind comment, if not I'll go one further. I did say I don't validate.. Considering the number of cheaters we have in the DayZ universe I'm pretty well versed. My validations process is identifying the execution/cheat, comparing it against known executions/cheat based on my experience, if our hurdles are passed we then submit to the CBL for further scrutinization. If somehow I mistook the entry AND the CBL reviewer mistakenly confirms and commits then the player still has the ability to appeal. Our network of server go to great lengths to ensure we identify actual cheaters and we know the CBL does to. The great thing about the CBL is they see it all, so not only do they compare the GUID but they compare the execution/cheat itself. It doesn't get much better then that and you're a fool for being so stubborn. If you don't like it then don't benefit from it. Stop trolling us and agree to disagree, you're never going to make up ground. This is a good thing for the community and you're simply in the wrong.