Why this mod is failing

[ALegitTaco 0]

-SNIP-

I agree with most of your points here, there was (at one point) people didn't just KoS. The bandits killed the overwhelming amount of people joining the server, shifting the center of pvp to the towns. These peoples mentality became "shoot everyone, don't trust anyone", and then some genius figured out that if you said "friendly" people would trust you long enough for you to shoot them in the back. Unless your with friends the game feels lonely. I want to have drag races at night with road flares, create colonies, and trading outposts. Not sneak around on my own, getting "epic lutz" and then camping the hills behind Cherno, killing people who don't even stand a chance. I'm alright without having an "endgame", I just want more goals then staying alive and shooting n00bs. When you acquire military loot your pretty invincible. Things like creating incentives for people to be friendly, being able to build bigger and more fortified bases are desperately needed.

My two cents.

[RiggsUK 69]

Forget the 12yr old hackers that should be out climbing trees. The current worst thing about this game is the running (28 days later style) infected. George Romero made zeds, not Danny Boyle.

[RayPugh 146]

. I want to have drag races at night with road flares, create colonies, and trading outposts.

wrong game buddy

[YethHound 5]

I have shot at not killed one survivor. Killed one bandit in a whole month of playing. Think what this mod would be like if it was a friend making game.

It would be shit......fact

Once you can evade zeds its you against players, the not knowing who has eyes in you as you loot an area, could a noob be about to kill my 9day old moderately gear character? Or a vet with a sniper rifle? The suspense is what keeps it real.

As for being bored well that's down to your imagination...its a sandbox

Goodluck

[Andrej Dudev 50]

wrong game buddy

I respect your opinion but I humbly suggest you to avoid assuming and pretending to know what is the aim of this mod.

[Sol (DayZ) 132]

If you can't beat 'em - Join 'em, don't post a thread crying about it.

I did, and you still complained.

@OP

I 100% agree with you... unfortunately it's like banging you face into a palette of bricks.

I just turned into one of the "assholes" you described because frankly, I want to drive this game into the dirt. Rocket doesn't even care, since he himself said "it's an experiment not a game, it's an anti-game... it might fail and disappear but I don't care" etc etc

The only other thing to do is stop playing...

~Sol

[Rebecca Chambers 3]

this MOD, which is what it will always be is failing because of hackers not bandits

and believe this, no one is/can do anything about it

with every hacker/server blacklisted 2 more pop up...

dayz....lol please

[Sol (DayZ) 132]

this MOD, which is what it will always be is failing because of hackers not bandits

and believe this, no one is/can do anything about it

with every hacker/server blacklisted 2 more pop up...

dayz....lol please

Same Rebecca Chambers from Dead Frontier?

If it is, hai... if not.... hai anyway :D

~Sol

[EnermaX 59]

the reason i joined these forums was to say just that... I was expecting something new, but it turned into something old... so many people playing this game, thinking it is another cod game... and i know people going to cry about me saying it, but hey its the truth...

This this this. A 1000 times.

[DrewDubious 19]

the reason i joined these forums was to say just that... I was expecting something new, but it turned into something old... so many people playing this game, thinking it is another cod game... and i know people going to cry about me saying it, but hey its the truth...

As someone who really dislikes the CoD series, I can honestly say beyond any reasonable doubt, that this game is absolutely nothing like CoD. If you really think this game is a CoD clone, you ought to try playing it some. By the By, when do I get my killstreak rewards?

[siew 53]

since me and my friends are playing on a private lan server, we really enjoy surviving without bandits.

we repaired 2 atvs and one ural civil truck for collecting food and medicine.

we also have 3 tents atm filled with good stuff.

all this cant be done on a server with bandits on it!

you know what, the game is much more fun to us without the bandit problem :)

i suggest a game mode without bandits ;)

[servicestud 4]

To shorten it up Bandits are emant to be in the game im a super nice person in life but when i play I kill people are bve evil!!!!

Wait, your idea of "shortening it up" is to quote his entire wall of text and add a single line?

[VaultDweller (DayZ) 58]

....I don't even know where to start with a reply to that. Bandits don't bother me. I've died to them maybe four times. I can recall, with clarity, all the times I've ever been killed by other players. Once in the NWAF airfield, by a server hopper. He had a .50. Once at the big red-and-white tower. That was the first time I had a DMR. I was bummed about that. one time, I was following my friend who had a pair of NVG's, on a night server. I didn't have NVG's. We ended up in a firefight at Stary. My friend got himself killed, and I don't log out. So, of course, when I threw flares to blind the enemies and tried to run away, I was killed by a silenced weapon. Hmmmm, when else? Honestly can't remember off the top of my head. I guess you could include my forays into non-hive servers, too. At which point you should add being killed by a ghillie-suited guy with an M9 silenced to the list. Having a hacker teleport behind me with a .50 sniper rifle and shoot me too. Oh, let's not forget the tunguska on the shoreline in the far west of the coastline. That killed me once or twice. But other than that...

I just...don't die a whole lot in DayZ, Maybe I'm brilliantly lucky? Or maybe I'm just cautious. Simple fact is, you're going to have to get it through that thick skull that this isn't a thread about bandits. This is a thread about MURDERERS. Yeah, I mislabeled them bandits earlier.

If this game didn't have the rampant murderous 'bandits' mindlessly killing everything in sight, then it would be so fucking ace. Why? Because there'd be a shift in the very foundation of the community, I think. New guys would actually have a chance. Without the meaningless deaths to instill in every single player that no one is to be trusted ever ever EVER, they'd actually be willing to party up. When someone said 'Friendly!' they might actually take it at face value.

I've said it already a few times. Without bandits, this game would be boring. but it's the mindless bandit murderers who sit on the shoreline trying to rack up a frigging high score of player kills that ruin the game. And it's not even that big of a deal, really. The real problem is that the community and the mid-game push people TOWARDS these goals. Not specifically, no. But without anything else to do, and with youtube videos all up in their faces trying to show them that 'shooting people on Dayz is fun!' the majority of people already are, or WILL resort to pure murderous rampages to try and liven up their game.

The game is EASY. And when you know how to avoid other players, like, you know, holding down ALT and looking around when you're running, sticking to the trees, observing zombie spawns from a distance, playing on servers that DON'T have 50 people on them constantly; then the game just gets boring. I've seen it. I've experienced it.

I'm one of the rare people who got bored with the game, and didn't resort to sitting in Cherno shooting at the noobs. I'm one of the even rarer ones who decided to point all of this shit out on the forums.

[sarcasm]But no. You got me. I'm just secretly really bad at the game and get killed by bandits all the time every day. I can't even make it off the beach without dying because I run up to other players shouting 'friendly!' every time I see them and pointing my brand spanking new makarov in their faces! And god, those snipers. I just keep falling over dead. I thought it was divine intervention there for a while. Or a glitch. But nope, it's them dang snipers. [/sarcasm]

Yeah, I added sarcasm brackets. Why? I don't beleive you're capable of picking up on that subtlety. Or any subtlety at all, really.

Not once in my first post did I make any allusions to wanting bandits gone. I never said anything like that. I never suggested it. But lol, I said that bandits were a 'problem'. So obviously, I must just be DYING to them all the time. You guys are putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with fucking algebra.

I LIKE bandits. Fuck, you could probably consider ME a bandit (before I joined the regulators, at least). When I was running with my friend, everyone was fair game. If it moved, we shot it.

But I was a bandit. I was not a mindless murderer. When I killed them, I killed them for their loot. I didn't kill them because I wanted a high score, or because I was bored. And it's these mindless murderers that are dragging the game down.

Yeah, sure, say that they'll always be there. You're preaching to the choir. I know they'll be there. Nothing will get rid of them. And you know what? Let them do it. If it makes them happy, they can go right ahead. Keep the noobs on their toes.

But like I said in the opening post, the game is PUSHING people towards this end game, and the community is reinforcing what the game is already doing. The mindless murderers in the servers are growing. See those sales figures? More 'casual' gamers looking for a quick deathmatch game because they saw a sick helicopter raid on youtube. Sure, some decent gamers get through, but guess what? They're quickly lost in the deluge of people killing for cheap, quick kills.

these are problems with the game, AND the community. I didn't make this thread to try and change that. I made this thread for awareness. And you know what? 9000 views. Maybe I got through to some people. Made them think a little bit. (actually, scrap that last bit. After the replies to this thread, I'm beginning to the think the average forum goer doesn't really THINK at all.)

Now please, tell me to QQ more and learn to play against bandits. And then go back to trawling the forums looking for people who are actually having trouble, so you can dump on them, too. Be a good little childish gamer and let the adults have a thread.

Go write a fucking novel or atleast ,,try,, to reply in a few valid words.

Damn your posts are to long!

[Triscuit 2]

i agree with the OP it's being ruined by the asshole players. this game needs to have punishments for becoming a dickhole bandit. I understand being a bandit and killing others is part of the game. I have been able to defend myself from a good share of "bandits" but it's getting bullshit to me that its a fucking kill on sight don't even think about it kind of game. I have no gear just started going through town having fun and i die... from fucking no where. thats not bandit thats just plain pussy move and killing for no reason at all. and to those of you that say "l2play, qq more, etc" get the fuck over yourselves. Some people have other shit to do than fucking run around in this game 24/7 to get shot at every fucking spawn or location to get supplies.

[orb917@hotmail.com 117]

this game needs to have punishments

unfortunately, i don't think dayz is for you. player behavior shouldn't ever be punished and, unless rocket's changed his mind on this point, i don't think it ever will thankfully.

[mmMike 0]

To the blatently retarded, obviously blind: I have NEVER BEEN SNIPED. I don't get killed by bandits! When I do, I suck it up and start over!

So which is it? You never get killed by bandits, or you do but just suck it up and start over?

[airdest 3]

its called playstyle

[Wulfear 6]

Yea it's just another braindead deathmatch game, but it has a reeeeallly big map.

That's not why it fails tho. It fails because HACKSHACKSHACKSHACKSHACKSHACKSHACKSHACKSHACKSHACKSHACKSHACKSHACKSHACKSHACKSHACKSHACKSHACKSHACKSHACKSHACKSHACKSHACKSHACKSHACKSHACKSHACKSHACKSHACKSHACKSHACKSHACKSHACKSHACKSHACKSHACKSHACKSHACKSHACKSHACKSHACKSHACKS

[shaftoe 0]

OP, the mod may be failing to live up to your expectations because it doesn't have mechanics that force people to play the way you think they should.

Most of the issues I see with the game relate to hacks/cheats/bugs, and those are not keeping massive numbers of people from playing every day.

This mod is winning, not failing.

I can haz Golf Clap?

Edited August 2, 2012 by shaftoe

[ramatakahn 38]

We repaired 2 atvs and one ural civil truck for collecting food and medicine.

we also have 3 tents atm filled with good stuff.

all this cant be done on a server with bandits on it!

We have a camp with 10 tents, both Urals, a pickup, 2 atvs, a hatchback, a motor bike, a sedan, and two bicycles. All on a server with bandits.

you know what, the game is much more fun to us without the bandit problem :)

i suggest a game mode without bandits ;)

The game is easy mode without bandits, zombies are a joke and not really dangerous at all.

[ramatakahn 38]

get shot at every fucking spawn

Yeah that doesn't happen.

[- Valkyrie - 89]

Someone has to lock this shit up.

[siew 53]

We have a camp with 10 tents, both Urals, a pickup, 2 atvs, a hatchback, a motor bike, a sedan, and two bicycles. All on a server with bandits.

The game is easy mode without bandits, zombies are a joke and not really dangerous at all.

i do understand what you mean.

but we are 3 players and sometimes we dont play DayZ for 2 or 3 days.

im sure everyone can imagine what happens to our base when nobody is guarding it for days...

we enjoy the games survival part like, getting food, water etc. and we want to get all we can get.

next big project is the huey^^

sometimes i go on public servers if i want some thrill ;)

i hope you guys can understand what i mean =/

i think everyone should play the game in the way he is enjoying.

and...it looks like, we like to play the "boring" part =D

greetings from germany

Edited August 2, 2012 by siew

[Triscuit 2]

i do understand what you mean.

but we are 3 players and sometimes we dont play DayZ for 2 or 3 days.

im sure everyone can imagine what happens to our base when nobody is guarding it for days...

we enjoy the games survival part like, getting food, water etc. and we want to get all we can get.

next big project is the huey^^

sometimes i go on public servers if i want some thrill ;)

i hope you guys can understand what i mean =/

i think everyone should play the game in the way he is enjoying.

and...it looks like, we like to play the "boring" part =D

greetings from germany

If i had the money for a server i would do the same. I want a less stressful gameplay then getting something and dying to some bored prick that calls himself a bandit. I have always thought that some sort of none pvp gamemode/server would be cool. yes it may get boring but thats when you start shooting all zombies instead of sneaking by them. and making it more interesting... or going on a different server... if you could send me info on how to set up a server like this that would be awesome! (pm me info if you can give it to me as i don't check specific threads much and i sure as hell don't catch up on them after a few days)

[neo2157 21]

unfortunately, i don't think dayz is for you. player behavior shouldn't ever be punished and, unless rocket's changed his mind on this point, i don't think it ever will thankfully.

Funny you should say that, rocket just announced bringing back bandit skin not to mention the mod STARTED with a bandit skin because Rocket knew that without some sort of punishment CoD kiddies will just murder everyone on the coast for absolutely no reason. I dislike the idea of needing a bandit skin myself but its pretty much a requirement with the lack of player skin customization or ability to enjoy a sim its just impossible to tell who's hostile and who isn't.