CZ550 vs M24

[Inception. 9443]

Recently I mastered the CZ 550.

After mastering that and the M24, I must say that the M24 is far better. Ammo is more common [and for extra room you can convert it to DMR and then back if one so wishes].

It's more accurate, and powerful. Sexier, too.

[klesh 2423]

The reason I would turn down both a CZ550 and an M24 over a DMR is that only the DMR works with nightvision.

[jdz (DayZ) 238]

I can't believe people haven't even considered the ability to range fond by using the mil dots and the fact that the CZ loses a lot of velocity over 400m therefore making it a lot less powerful

[zantiago 119]

I'm sorry, but I absolutely must disagree with your rankings. You're grouping together three different categories of weapons.

Anti-materiel rifles:

1. AS50

2. M107

Sniper rifles:

1. M24

2. CZ 550 [Note: Can use NVG while scoped in]

Designated marksman rifles: (The ranking for these weapons are not set in stone, they very much depend on user preference)

1. SVD Dragunov

2. M21 (AKA the DMR) [Note: Can use NVG while scoped in]

An anti-materiel rifle is NOT a sniper rifle. A DMR is NOT a sniper rifle. They are designed to fill distinctly different roles.

I'm not saying you can't use an AS50 in place of a M24, but it still doesn't make the AS50 a sniper rifle, it's an anti-materiel rifle that is masquerading as a sniper rifle. There is a difference, and it is of paramount importance that that difference be respected.

Ignore "effective range", it doesn't translate well in videogames. Use the weapon yourself, put rounds down-range, you'll figure out what targets you can effectively engage much better than just "well this weapon's 'effective range' is only 150m, guess that means it can't hit shit past 200m" which is a total load of shit.

Also, DayZ doesn't seem to take into account projectile velocity when it does its damage calculations, so putting rounds on a target past the cartridges standard engagement range doesn't seem to make any difference. [Please! If I'm wrong about this I would love to know!]

I don't know where I should start with your post.

The amount of ignorance shown is to damn high for me to even give a shit about.

So to summarize.

An 'Anti Material' Rifle, is a sniperrifle by the way.

Just because Anti Material is infront of it, doesn't remove the sniping aspect of it.

Saying that they can be used for diffrent thing's, and are ment for diffrent thing's is also a complete and utter shite statement to make.

Just because you can read, it doesn't make you literate in what you are talking about.

The DMR is not a sniper rifle?

Are you honestly that stupid?

The DMR is widen known for being the 'go-to' SNIPER RIFLE for the american police force.

I wonder where you pull all this information from?

Do you honestly believe everything you read on the internet?

And you dare to say that MY very OWN list of preference in term's of sniper rifle's is wrong.

Excuse me kid, but do you know me?

Or are you just so ignorantly blind that you can't understand what you read?

Do you even know what it is that makes a weapon a sniper rifle?

I swear that if you are basing this on a military background.

I am gonna laugh so hard, it's not even gonna be funny.

If you are gonna sell my poorly formatted comment short, then atleast back up your information correctly.

If not, then you are gonna waste your time trying to discuss this with me.

There is a diffrence in thinking you know what you are talking about, due to literal means.

And actually having the experience to talk about it openly.

(I didn't want to do this mate. But you gave me no choice)

-Zan

[TheAltGuardian 5]

The M24's bullet travels faster than the CZ-550. This means it ends up being a lot more accurate for moving targets.

[TheTaltsi 45]

no way the dmr is better than cz550 and m24, sure it has a larger clip and DPS, but its so damn unprecise, you'd better get yourself an enfield...

Well, you just cant aim then, DMR is as precise as both of the "normal" snipers

[Demissary 11]

I don't know where I should start with your post.

The amount of ignorance shown is to damn high for me to even give a shit about.

So to summarize.

An 'Anti Material' Rifle, is a sniperrifle by the way.

Just because Anti Material is infront of it, doesn't remove the sniping aspect of it.

Saying that they can be used for diffrent thing's, and are ment for diffrent thing's is also a complete and utter shite statement to make.

Just because you can read, it doesn't make you literate in what you are talking about.

The DMR is not a sniper rifle?

Are you honestly that stupid?

The DMR is widen known for being the 'go-to' SNIPER RIFLE for the american police force.

I wonder where you pull all this information from?

Do you honestly believe everything you read on the internet?

And you dare to say that MY very OWN list of preference in term's of sniper rifle's is wrong.

Excuse me kid, but do you know me?

Or are you just so ignorantly blind that you can't understand what you read?

Do you even know what it is that makes a weapon a sniper rifle?

I swear that if you are basing this on a military background.

I am gonna laugh so hard, it's not even gonna be funny.

If you are gonna sell my poorly formatted comment short, then atleast back up your information correctly.

If not, then you are gonna waste your time trying to discuss this with me.

There is a diffrence in thinking you know what you are talking about, due to literal means.

And actually having the experience to talk about it openly.

(I didn't want to do this mate. But you gave me no choice)

-Zan

Alright Sniper Wiki no one cares

[a_typical_noob 651]

The main difference is the appearance. The M24 looks like a badass sniper rifle while the CZ550 looks like any animal-hunting newbie rifle. Put yourself in this position:

You see two men running side by side and you have a clear kill for both. Would you kill the man with the M24 on the side of his backpack (remember it's camo-ed) or the man with the CZ550 on the side of his backpack?

Both!

The answer is both, right?

[TheDuriel 26]

Ignore "effective range", it doesn't translate well in videogames. Use the weapon yourself, put rounds down-range, you'll figure out what targets you can effectively engage much better than just "well this weapon's 'effective range' is only 150m, guess that means it can't hit shit past 200m" which is a total load of shit.

Also, DayZ doesn't seem to take into account projectile velocity when it does its damage calculations, so putting rounds on a target past the cartridges standard engagement range doesn't seem to make any difference. [Please! If I'm wrong about this I would love to know!]

effective range means 1 thing:

the range where you bullet looses dmg

this system is used by arma2 and dayz and works perfectly fine in both (arma2 is actualy the only game i can think of that uses this system at all)

max range(that still hits for a OK amount of dmg) of most snipers is 1200m and 2000~m with the as50

headshots will still kill even outside of the effective range

[Nothing1231 6]

I don't know where I should start with your post.

The amount of ignorance shown is to damn high for me to even give a shit about.

So to summarize.

An 'Anti Material' Rifle, is a sniperrifle by the way.

Just because Anti Material is infront of it, doesn't remove the sniping aspect of it.

Saying that they can be used for diffrent thing's, and are ment for diffrent thing's is also a complete and utter shite statement to make.

Just because you can read, it doesn't make you literate in what you are talking about.

The DMR is not a sniper rifle?

Are you honestly that stupid?

The DMR is widen known for being the 'go-to' SNIPER RIFLE for the american police force.

I wonder where you pull all this information from?

Do you honestly believe everything you read on the internet?

And you dare to say that MY very OWN list of preference in term's of sniper rifle's is wrong.

Excuse me kid, but do you know me?

Or are you just so ignorantly blind that you can't understand what you read?

Do you even know what it is that makes a weapon a sniper rifle?

I swear that if you are basing this on a military background.

I am gonna laugh so hard, it's not even gonna be funny.

If you are gonna sell my poorly formatted comment short, then atleast back up your information correctly.

If not, then you are gonna waste your time trying to discuss this with me.

There is a diffrence in thinking you know what you are talking about, due to literal means.

And actually having the experience to talk about it openly.

(I didn't want to do this mate. But you gave me no choice)

-Zan

I honestly must say this a load of bumbling shit. I can say from experience and countless hours of study on sniping and marksmanship, all of these weapons are in their correct categories. I would say he is more correct in every way than you.

DMRs

The DMR (Designated Marksman Rifle M14/T44/M21), notice that no where in there does it say sniper, long range, or anti-material. It is a converted battle rifle (m14), made specifically for engaging targets out of the range of the typical 5.56x45mm assault rifle. It was never intended to be a sniping weapon, and the m24 is much more commonly used by law enforcement. The SVD is also a DMR, issued with the PSO-1 scope, a 4x close-medium range scope, while your average M24 is issued with an advanced Leupold 10x long range sniper scope, you can see my point.

Sniper Rifles

Although most uneducated people in his topic (you know who you are, don't be embarrassed, you only sound dumb when you think you know a lot) would say that the M107 (originally the M82) and AS50 are sniper rifles, and to some extent you are right. Both of these weapons were designed to be accurate and powerful at very long range, but their high caliber automatically makes then anti-material rifles, no matter what. The M24 is a dedicated sniper weapon, built from the ground up as a high accuracy, long range rifle. The CZ550 is a hunting weapon, not manufactured to the same quality, or designed with the same purpose. Hunting weapons are designed to be simple and able to hit a fat deer at ranges under a kilometer with a reasonable chance (don't bitch about this, it's a generalization stating a general point). The M24 is designed to be used a highly trained specialist team in high risk areas on high risk missions, not to bring down a buck from 150 meters.

Anti-Material Rifles

High caliber (.50 BMG, 12.7x108 Russian, etc.) rifles, even if designed for sniping, are not sniper rifles. No matter what, an AS50 will always be a AM rifle because of its caliber, and no matter how much you bitch and whine, is not gonna fucking change.

That raps up my rant, I congratulate Zantiago for being the biggest shithead on this post, and congratulation aids of being the most intelligent.

[God Dan 62]

I just lol at the challenge in armory where you kill cows with an AS50

[FogeyZ Gilly 15]

The m24 isn't worth the space in your bag. It don't kill shit past 300 and your lucky if it does then. I've hit players square in the chest on the move At 400 and they just keep running . The cz seems to hurt more at range. Offer me one when I'm unarmed and ill tell you to keep it.

[FogeyZ Gilly 15]

The m24 isn't worth the space in your bag. It don't kill shit past 300 and your lucky if it does then. I've hit players square in the chest on the move At 400 and they just keep running . The cz seems to hurt more at range. Offer me one when I'm unarmed and ill tell you to keep it.

[Jakalanche 3]

No matter how much everyone says that the CZ550 is easier to find, I have never actually found one. I have found one in the back of some guys truck and my friend has found one while we were looting together, but I have only ever found mags for the damn thing. However, the M24 I find quite a bit. Both guns I have only used once (That being because I prefer the DMR and cause you cant find CZ550 mags when you want them) and fired two shots from each. The shots I made with the CZ missed because of the sights, both shots with the m24 hit because of the sights. Sure they're both the same, but its the sights that set them apart. I prefer the M24.

Edited August 7, 2013 by Jakalanche

[N0 R3M0RS3 63]

I honestly must say this a load of bumbling shit. I can say from experience and countless hours of study on sniping and marksmanship, all of these weapons are in their correct categories. I would say he is more correct in every way than you.

DMRs

The DMR (Designated Marksman Rifle M14/T44/M21), notice that no where in there does it say sniper, long range, or anti-material. It is a converted battle rifle (m14), made specifically for engaging targets out of the range of the typical 5.56x45mm assault rifle. It was never intended to be a sniping weapon, and the m24 is much more commonly used by law enforcement. The SVD is also a DMR, issued with the PSO-1 scope, a 4x close-medium range scope, while your average M24 is issued with an advanced Leupold 10x long range sniper scope, you can see my point.

Sniper Rifles

Although most uneducated people in his topic (you know who you are, don't be embarrassed, you only sound dumb when you think you know a lot) would say that the M107 (originally the M82) and AS50 are sniper rifles, and to some extent you are right. Both of these weapons were designed to be accurate and powerful at very long range, but their high caliber automatically makes then anti-material rifles, no matter what. The M24 is a dedicated sniper weapon, built from the ground up as a high accuracy, long range rifle. The CZ550 is a hunting weapon, not manufactured to the same quality, or designed with the same purpose. Hunting weapons are designed to be simple and able to hit a fat deer at ranges under a kilometer with a reasonable chance (don't bitch about this, it's a generalization stating a general point). The M24 is designed to be used a highly trained specialist team in high risk areas on high risk missions, not to bring down a buck from 150 meters.

Anti-Material Rifles

High caliber (.50 BMG, 12.7x108 Russian, etc.) rifles, even if designed for sniping, are not sniper rifles. No matter what, an AS50 will always be a AM rifle because of its caliber, and no matter how much you bitch and whine, is not gonna fucking change.

That raps up my rant, I congratulate Zantiago for being the biggest shithead on this post, and congratulation aids of being the most intelligent.

Holy shit. =o this guy knows his rifles. Beans for you good sir. This info wraps this up.

[joinnkakashi@gmail.com 31]

Really it falls down into just the scope, prefered range and retort (loudness)

M24 has a simpler scope longer range and doesn't scream out too much

CZ hunting scope that is confusing to most, more for medium support, I find that is where it fits in best and louder than shyte

[Nothing1231 6]

Holy shit. =o this guy knows his rifles. Beans for you good sir. This info wraps this up.

Thank you, I love to prove the idiots who critisize intelligent people wrong.

[IIParisII 9]

I tend to pick up the M24 whenever i have the opportunity to do so, as in real-life i own a Remington M24-A2.. But stat wise im pretty sure they're almost exactly the same.. unless you're lying down in a prone position. As the M24 does have less sway in that position than the CZ... Additionally Ammunition is alot easier to find for the M24 as it converts from the DMR mags. Just my opinion.. Please don't start shouting

[NickM (DayZ) 57]

The m24 isn't worth the space in your bag. It don't kill shit past 300 and your lucky if it does then. I've hit players square in the chest on the move At 400 and they just keep running . The cz seems to hurt more at range. Offer me one when I'm unarmed and ill tell you to keep it.

Then you didn't actually hit them. Period.

M24, just like DMR and SVD (and CZ550) are almost a guaranteed knockout at that range with body shots, and will likely break a bone as well.

If the player does not combat log and receives no bandaging before the knockout timer is up, they will bleed out a well.

Go hit the armory and learn how to get lead on target, or check your internet connection.

You are not hitting them if they keep running.

[codyschouten 0]

I do not understand people some times.

Gilly, on 11 March 2013 - 02:33 AM, said:

The m24 isn't worth the space in your bag. It don't kill shit past 300 and your lucky if it does then. I've hit players square in the chest on the move At 400 and they just keep running . The cz seems to hurt more at range. Offer me one when I'm unarmed and ill tell you to keep it.

As it has been mentioned a thousand times the stats are the EXACT same other than the retort (Loudness) as stated before (post #41)

Personally I prefer the M24 because of the scope. The milidot is so much more effective for aiming and also it gives you exact distances. None of the zeroing that the CZ has. In my experiences the only time you can you a CZ effectively at long range is either have a spotter with a rangefinder or have much experience and have decent estimations where the milidots would be. But when it comes down to it lets be real, if you play with the CZ often and less with the M24 chances are you are going to be more efficient with the CZ because you have more experience with it. Simple as that. But then again this is just my opinion I am not here to tell anyone they are wrong.

[-Gews- 7443]

Fun fact:

A CZ550 will run you about $800 less scope, a new M24 will run you (as a civilian, if you can find one) about $7000... gah! Price gouging... <_<

[VisionTwelve 24]

Okay so, I see lots of posts refering to what is and isn't a sniper rifle.

So here it all is.

Let's say you have a m14 aim. Its got a red dot optics on it its a medium-short range rifle. So that classifies it as a battle rifle. So what happens when you replace that aim sight with a sniper scope, as to say the DMR's 15x double zoom scope.

It turns it into what you would call a "sniper rifle"

Here's the catch. The sniper aspect isn't the rifle itself, but, the optics and who is using it.

Sniper scopes. Not sniper rifles.

You put a red dot on a m24, what do you get? A battle rifle.

If you have a scope on any gun, that allows for long range accuracy (dependant on the guns effective range), it becomes a "sniper rifle"

M4 with a long range optics? Yup, there's a "sniper rifle"

The only guns in game that would actually be a sniper rifle, are the as50's, and m107's, as there's only one way they can be used (moderately that is)

But as to the topic of the post. M24 beats the cz due to military class optics, over civilian class optics.

But I have to go with the m40a3 <3

[VisionTwelve 24]

The m24 isn't worth the space in your bag. It don't kill shit past 300 and your lucky if it does then. I've hit players square in the chest on the move At 400 and they just keep running . The cz seems to hurt more at range. Offer me one when I'm unarmed and ill tell you to keep it.

Whatever you can do with a dmr, can be done better with a m24. Maybe learn to snipe instead of spamming dmr/m107/as50 shots at someone? One shot kills

[-Gews- 7443]

Whatever you can do with a dmr, can be done better with a m24. Maybe learn to snipe instead of spamming dmr/m107/as50 shots at someone? One shot kills

I like the DMR better than the M24, some people will call it a noobtube but you can hit out to 800 fairly easily, and even out to 1000 if you have a good opportunity, plus you have lots of ammo. I think it's better for lone wolves because you don't always have the opportunity to choose when and where you fight, unlike campers or those rolling in clans.

Edited March 16, 2013 by Gews

[Pandema 352]

M24 hands down. More like the other snipers with the mil-dot system (barring the Russian ones of course) and has a better kill range.