ChiefMasterKush 321 Posted July 28, 2012 Are. Pussies.Are you pointing out pussy's as pussies?A bit late but this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Element47 2480 Posted July 28, 2012 holy shit i never thought i would give out so many beans in a single thread, ever.gaming is part of reality. for some, its thrilling, emotional, moving. its not different from soccer fans who weep when their team loses, or a theater audience which is moved to tears by a dramatic performance..after my first few hours playing this game, i put the headset down and went to the kitchen to get some food, i had to make a break because i was shaking due to the adrenaline rush - emotions are always real, no matter if triggered by real or fictional events. And as diverse as people are, as diverse is their experience of such events - from joy and satisfaction to compassion and grief.someone said, people need to grow the fuck up. in my experience, empathy and compassion are subject to development, affected by life experience and personal disposition. If you cant relate that people are emotional about an immersive experience like a game, then maybe its you who needs some time growing up until you gain the understanding. Of course some people lack empathy no matter how old, so maybe you are grown up and yet cant see it. I#d give you more beans but i fear that this metaphor may be lost on you - those aren't real beans after all. 17 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
@Williamcullum1 58 Posted July 28, 2012 If you pull the trigger on someone who, in a desperate cry, begs you let them live and don't have a significant emotion behind it, put the game down. You've been desensitized to death a killing to a point I hope I'll never have to cross.When someone begs you for their life and you end it still, that should make you feel bad. You are bad, feel that way.But remember they woke up somewhere later on the shore and consider what you may have done differently in real life. If someone on voice chat was begging for their life id tell them to stop whining they'll die one day then I'll shoot them...and then they will be dead and i'll carry on with my life and no I have not be desensitized to death... It's a GAME not real life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nucleqrwinter@gmail.com 156 Posted July 28, 2012 (edited) Nope and 'cause I enjoy playing the game... you can play a game like this without crying about it yanoe?But it's meant to make you feel these strong emotions, if you don't then every single aspect of this game is subpar.I guess you can do whatever you want but you'd probably enjoy yourself a lot more playing something else. Edited July 28, 2012 by Nucleqrwinter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RicardoCCH (DayZ) 26 Posted July 28, 2012 Maybe it's late, but this just has to be the first post where there hasn't been horde (don't know how to write this shit) of people bashing it. Nice to see ... (4 replies added) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
@Williamcullum1 58 Posted July 28, 2012 holy shit i never thought i would give out so many beans in a single thread, ever.gaming is part of reality. for some, its thrilling, emotional, moving. its not different from soccer fans who weep when their team loses, or a theater audience which is moved to tears by a dramatic performance..after my first few hours playing this game, i put the headset down and went to the kitchen to get some food, i had to make a break because i was shaking due to the adrenaline rush - emotions are always real, no matter if triggered by real or fictional events. And as diverse as people are, as diverse is their experience of such events - from joy and satisfaction to compassion and grief.someone said, people need to grow the fuck up. in my experience, empathy and compassion are subject to development, affected by life experience and personal disposition. If you cant relate that people are emotional about an immersive experience like a game, then maybe its you who needs some time growing up until you gain the understanding. Of course some people lack empathy no matter how old, so maybe you are grown up and yet cant see it. I#d give you more beans but i fear that this metaphor may be lost on you - those aren't real beans after all.No I can't relate i've seen people close to death in real life and people begging for their lives in real life so someone getting upset 'cause someone did it on a game is stupid to me as it can be no where near the real thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CLewis 31 Posted July 28, 2012 holy shit i never thought i would give out so many beans in a single thread, ever.gaming is part of reality. for some, its thrilling, emotional, moving. its not different from soccer fans who weep when their team loses, or a theater audience which is moved to tears by a dramatic performance..after my first few hours playing this game, i put the headset down and went to the kitchen to get some food, i had to make a break because i was shaking due to the adrenaline rush - emotions are always real, no matter if triggered by real or fictional events. And as diverse as people are, as diverse is their experience of such events - from joy and satisfaction to compassion and grief.someone said, people need to grow the fuck up. in my experience, empathy and compassion are subject to development, affected by life experience and personal disposition. If you cant relate that people are emotional about an immersive experience like a game, then maybe its you who needs some time growing up until you gain the understanding. Of course some people lack empathy no matter how old, so maybe you are grown up and yet cant see it. I#d give you more beans but i fear that this metaphor may be lost on you - those aren't real beans after all.Well said Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thekaiser (DayZ) 17 Posted July 28, 2012 Na, calling people out for their personal experiences on the internet is 'pussy'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skillet (DayZ) 39 Posted July 28, 2012 I don't know about you but I would rather be around a bunch of pussy than dicks and assholes.. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baelethal 102 Posted July 28, 2012 Ok, so I'm a pussy. Half the time, playing this game, I'm scared. I'm immersed. I'm living through my character on a level you may not be able to comprehend. Often, as my fingers twitch across the keyboard to strafe from bullet fire, I'll physically gasp and twitch behind the screen. Why? Immersion.I hesitate when pulling the trigger. Past murders occasionally resurface. I feel genuinely bad about killing another player. I don't think this makes me a bad player. I don't think this makes me a bad person. I don't think I'm taking this game "too seriously" either.This game is a sandbox simulation. The fact that I can identify with the other characters allows me to maintain my sense of humanity out of game. If I wanted mindless killing I'd go play some other game. Every player has a story. Every player is on a journey. I should feel bad about snuffing out their story, even if it's only for a little while. That's how I know I'm still human.Sometimes, firefights are so intense I have to walk away from the game for a little while. Sometimes, I get caught up in the moment so thoroughly, that the decisions I'm forced to make are instinctual. Some kills I have to try and convince myself that I made the right choice.These feelings are part of the reason I keep coming back. The emotional stress can be a kind of high.To be honest, I'd rather have more "pussies" playing this game. There'd be more co-op and less senseless killing if clicking that mouse button affected you more. I'd rather play with people who think about what their choices mean in game as opposed to running around willy-nilly with no care about what actions mean in the grand scheme of things.This may be stupid to you, but from my point of view, I feel you're missing a huge part of the experience if you can play without emotion or effect. Lets just agree to disagree, and play the way we feel is best, since there's no real right or wrong way to play a game, especially in a sandbox.... 11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
@Williamcullum1 58 Posted July 28, 2012 Na, calling people out for their personal experiences on the internet is 'pussy'. Give me there UK address and I'll call them out in person... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thortimer 37 Posted July 28, 2012 If someone on voice chat was begging for their life id tell them to stop whining they'll die one day then I'll shoot them...and then they will be dead and i'll carry on with my life and no I have not be desensitized to death... It's a GAME not real life.By saying I'd kill them (with what appears like little more than a second thought) and I'll carry on, you're proving exactly how desensitized to death you are. Look at exactly what the you just said. You sound like a monster.Example: How would you're grandmother (or anyone who hasn't been exposed to extreme instances of death/killing) react to that post you just made. She'd be appalled. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SLASH-7 27 Posted July 28, 2012 If someone on voice chat was begging for their life id tell them to stop whining they'll die one day then I'll shoot them...and then they will be dead and i'll carry on with my life and no I have not be desensitized to death... It's a GAME not real life.You are just the opposite side of the spectrum. I don't think you will realize this but even the fact that you made this thread shows that you are feeling emotion on the forums. You say you are not upset, but you must be feeling some sort of emotions as you called these people "pussy's". People play games for different reasons, people play games with different tactics, and some people get so immersed in games that they cannot sleep at night. It's all part of the experience, if the person feeling these extreme emotions feels they are becoming too much I believe he can choose for himself that he should not continue playing. Otherwise, nobody needs to be told that they need to go outside as they are taking the game too seriously. This is just childish, and as I stated earlier; just let gamers game. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrGrasswalk 8 Posted July 28, 2012 If someone on voice chat was begging for their life id tell them to stop whining they'll die one day then I'll shoot them...and then they will be dead and i'll carry on with my life and no I have not be desensitized to death... It's a GAME not real life.Do you know what art is? What the definition of art is? Art is everything that creates emotions to a spectator, that means everything is art yes but we use the term "art" for the things that creates stronger emotions than the rest, common examples are Pictures, Music, Movies and GAMES.Some appreciate art much more and can get much stronger emotions from it, this game is EXTREME art, it creates generally stronger emotions than almost any other Song/Movie/Game. And those who appreciate this art, have a gift, not a curse. "It's just a game" is a very unstable argument cause it's not about where the emotions come from, but the emotions them self. They are as true as any other. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RicardoCCH (DayZ) 26 Posted July 28, 2012 Stop: I will not give my beans anymorePS: i wonder the age of us posting here, most don't sound like teens 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daldrath 9 Posted July 28, 2012 I don't get too immersed. When I kill another player I don't think anything of it regarding the nature of humanity or emotions. I don't necessarily think that it is weird for people to get really immersed I just personally have always been able to separate things like movies and video games from real life. I don't get why people are asking the OP why he plays and that this game is specifically meant to trigger responses emotionally, to me there are an infinite number of reasons to play a game, and simply because one finds it fun is a totally valid reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
@Williamcullum1 58 Posted July 28, 2012 Ok, so I'm a pussy. Half the time, playing this game, I'm scared. I'm immersed. I'm living through my character on a level you may not be able to comprehend. Often, as my fingers twitch across the keyboard to strafe from bullet fire, I'll physically gasp and twitch behind the screen. Why? Immersion.I hesitate when pulling the trigger. Past murders occasionally resurface. I feel genuinely bad about killing another player. I don't think this makes me a bad player. I don't think this makes me a bad person. I don't think I'm taking this game "too seriously" either.This game is a sandbox simulation. The fact that I can identify with the other characters allows me to maintain my sense of humanity out of game. If I wanted mindless killing I'd go play some other game. Every player has a story. Every player is on a journey. I should feel bad about snuffing out their story, even if it's only for a little while. That's how I know I'm still human.Sometimes, firefights are so intense I have to walk away from the game for a little while. Sometimes, I get caught up in the moment so thoroughly, that the decisions I'm forced to make are instinctual. Some kills I have to try and convince myself that I made the right choice.These feelings are part of the reason I keep coming back. The emotional stress can be a kind of high.To be honest, I'd rather have more "pussies" playing this game. There'd be more co-op and less senseless killing if clicking that mouse button affected you more. I'd rather play with people who think about what their choices mean in game as opposed to running around willy-nilly with no care about what actions mean in the grand scheme of things.This may be stupid to you, but from my point of view, I feel you're missing a huge part of the experience if you can play without emotion or effect. Lets just agree to disagree, and play the way we feel is best, since there's no real right or wrong way to play a game, especially in a sandbox.... I think if people are getting so worried and emotional about they need to gain some life experience. If you're (not saying you do) starting to feel bad outside of the game for killing someone you need to go out to the real world and see real things with your own lives outside of the computer screen. There is more exciting and scary things in the world than DayZ and more things to take up your guilt than DayZ.. it's a game and some people take it as seriously as the real thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nilloc93 19 Posted July 28, 2012 i actually laugh when i kill someone who has good gear, i only feel slightly bad when i kill a newspawn who is trying to kill me with an axe 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Element47 2480 Posted July 28, 2012 No I can't relate i've seen people close to death in real life and people begging for their lives in real life so someone getting upset 'cause someone did it on a game is stupid to me as it can be no where near the real thing.you do understand though, that people who beg for their lives (and people getting upset about this) do so on another level than in real life?frustration, anger, regret, satisfaction - all those exist in a multitude of contexts - and all are real and healthy.lets be clear - if someone has insomnia or nightmares because he regrets a move he has done in a video game, he might be too sensitive for it.but if someone played for hours till late night and his mind races and recapitulated the most emotional moments when he lays down to sleep, thats nothing unusual. our brain processes all the input it gathered during the day while we sleep. if someone dreams of the game after he played it for hours, thats nothing out of the ordinary. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
@Williamcullum1 58 Posted July 28, 2012 By saying I'd kill them (with what appears like little more than a second thought) and I'll carry on, you're proving exactly how desensitized to death you are. Look at exactly what the you just said. You sound like a monster.Example: How would you're grandmother (or anyone who hasn't been exposed to extreme instances of death/killing) react to that post you just made. She'd be appalled. I'm not.. I have experienced death and people begging for their lives in real life so in a GAME it is nothing to me just another day it doesn't bring back the memories as it's nothing like the real thing so shouldn't been seen as so upsetting for some people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nucleqrwinter@gmail.com 156 Posted July 28, 2012 (edited) I think if people are getting so worried and emotional about they need to gain some life experience. If you're (not saying you do) starting to feel bad outside of the game for killing someone you need to go out to the real world and see real things with your own lives outside of the computer screen. There is more exciting and scary things in the world than DayZ and more things to take up your guilt than DayZ.. it's a game and some people take it as seriously as the real thing.What don't you understand in "ROLE-PLAY"? You PLAY a ROLE. It's not about any kind of experience, it's about imagination. DayZ is a Simulator. You are meant to ROLE PLAY when you play DayZ. If you want to go on a mindless rampage then why don't you play Call of Duty? Seriously, what you're saying doesn't make any sense. Edited July 28, 2012 by Nucleqrwinter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Element47 2480 Posted July 28, 2012 Stop: I will not give my beans anymorePS: i wonder the age of us posting here, most don't sound like teens 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
@Williamcullum1 58 Posted July 28, 2012 you do understand though, that people who beg for their lives (and people getting upset about this) do so on another level than in real life?frustration, anger, regret, satisfaction - all those exist in a multitude of contexts - and all are real and healthy.lets be clear - if someone has insomnia or nightmares because he regrets a move he has done in a video game, he might be too sensitive for it.but if someone played for hours till late night and his mind races and recapitulated the most emotional moments when he lays down to sleep, thats nothing unusual. our brain processes all the input it gathered during the day while we sleep. if someone dreams of the game after he played it for hours, thats nothing out of the ordinary. Like i stated earlier i'm talking about the extreme. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flurf 25 Posted July 28, 2012 (edited) I think if people are getting so worried and emotional about they need to gain some life experience. If you're (not saying you do) starting to feel bad outside of the game for killing someone you need to go out to the real world and see real things with your own lives outside of the computer screen. There is more exciting and scary things in the world than DayZ and more things to take up your guilt than DayZ.. it's a game and some people take it as seriously as the real thing.I'm at a loss for words. Don't you understand, your inability to understand a normal human emotion, means you need more life experience?Why don't you take a step back and instead of approaching this with the, I don't understand it must be wrong you're a pussy, mentality. Try to understand that, while everyone feels emotions different, regardless of the context, it's normal. I'm 99% certain that mentality of yours, carries over to more than just a game. Edited July 28, 2012 by Flurf 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
@Williamcullum1 58 Posted July 28, 2012 What don't you understand in "ROLE-PLAY"? You PLAY a ROLE. It's not about any kind of experience, it's about imagination. DayZ is a Simulator. You are meant to ROLE PLAY when you play DayZ. If you want to go on a mindless rampage then why don't you play Call of Duty? Seriously, what you're saying doesn't make any sense. I don't believe DayZ is a role playing game is it? Did i say at any point I go on mindless rampages? No all I said was people who have EXTREME emotions over the game need to see the outside world. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites