It's The End of the World, So let's Kill Each Other!!!

[Valec 55]

You make the world,you make the choices....it's not kill or be killed it's what the majority of the players choose it to be. ;)

And we know what choice the majority of players have made.

So I reiterate. It's a kill or be killed world.

[zyfer.nyholm@gmail.com 131]

Okay, I was just saying the game is for some degree of realism. And in real life I'd kinda like to think people wouldn't just kill people. It's obvious that no one is really dying in the game there for there is no need for real remorse. Do I need to clarify further?

listen, if i saw you in real life under the same conditions as in dayz, i wouldnt kill ya, in a world like that you know survival is the key, and its best to survive together, so no, i wouldnt KOS RL, but that does not mean i wont do it in a game, not at all, because there is a big difference between the interwebz and Real lifez, the way people act in a game, is NOT the way they would act in real life, and if you start to think that, then you should get checked out, im not saying you do, im saying IF you do.

i KoS because if i dont, i will be, and im not taking any chances unless the opposite guy speaks out before he is dead.

Edited July 20, 2012 by Zyfer

[romanski 33]

it seems that the difference between a survivor and a zombie here is the zombies got no guns :)

[zyfer.nyholm@gmail.com 131]

You make the world,you make the choices....it's not kill or be killed it's what the majority of the players choose it to be. ;)

That's why killing another player is considered as "win".

i consider every day alive as a win, killing is a bonus.

[Disgraced 1123]

Everyone is infected. Some have guns. It seems that maybe... Maybe some are starting to post here... Must be in the earlier stages...

I'm the only one left.... That's why I have to shoot everyone else in Chernarus. It's the only safety.

[MichaeLK 16]

And we know what choice the majority of players have made.

So I reiterate. It's a kill or be killed world.

I have my own playing style for 2 months now....

so for me it's "do whatever you want world".

Edited July 20, 2012 by Arch0N

[Lyncher 18]

HAHA you can call me a douche or whatever you want, its a game and its the internet, its not some serious job or RL commitment, i dont need to follow someones QQ rules because they cant take being shot in a...... wait for it......... game..... i know alot of you cry in cod and bf3 because you get owned, and then call someone a hacker, yeah i feel ya lol, then you come to this game, and expect different? what the? this game has weapons, and im damn right gonna use them on something else than bot zombies, and soon it will be only because of whiners whining about being killed, im not even gonna loot, just hide the body and watch ur stuffz sink into the ground as i laugh, yeah, thats the community QQ'ers are making soon, people are getting fed up, so keep on strolling down that beautifull road, and let me know if your happy about it.

i have been killed aswell, but so what? right now my char is like 6-7 days old, and im waiting for my death so i can start over, this might result in me just being in cherno making everyones day a living hell, not because im a troll, but because they get so butthurt and should worry and whine about other things in life than something so little, its the same in eve, people whine about being killed, or being robbed, when its a sandbox game, you CANNOT whine about anything but hacks and cheats and exploits, stuff that makes the game unplayable for others like shutting down a server or using aimbot and wallhack and spawning stuff or disconnecting. if you get shot from the get go, spawn another place, or think about what you did wrong when you looted cherno, did you sneak in cherno? cuz thats stupid.

people today needs shit served on a silver plate before they can actually function, they cant just go ahead and learn from their own mistakes, and when you cant acknowledge that YOU made the mistake yourself, then they come to the forum and whine about other players killing them... I could have been survivor, it was my plan at the beginning, but this forum changed it all. Thanks

So ya opinions are opinions. Not sure if much of that was directed at me or not. Just reading the rest of your posts you think into this a great deal more than most do. The level of interest you show here makes me think you think about this whole thing a lot.

The start of this thread is about debating. You just attack like a bitch. So you thought out and are imposing your opinion on others. Good job, this is just a debate and your preaching. Why can't the gave have a bit of morality too it? Is that really so out of the question? Just to be clear I don't expect it to go that way but I still try. Hell thats how I play the game. I like to think of it as my choice. But hey why not tell everyone there wrong. Ya douche.

[noobfun 87]

this is you, this is me, this is everyone i have ever or will ever know

Trevor is the inner monkey, in times of stress or panic Trevor takes over, Trevor also tries to take over at many times without you even noticing, Trevor protects his friends but doesnt give a stuff about others, this game brings Trevor out to play

[Guest]

in a world without laws im pretty sure if i was tired , thirsty and cold i would kill a man for food and weapons. Infact there's no doubt.

[yankee_1776@live.com 20]

I don't much care for killing people on sight, the problem is they typically kill you on sight, and without a way to tell who is a murder and who isn't it is impossible to distinguish between friend and asshole before it's too late.

[mynaameisreed 38]

no, because having the conscious thought is not enough, when you cry about being killed, and get angry, and start blaming others, then you lose the ability to understand that this is only a game because the conscious thought gets replaced with fucking idiot, fuck him, or something like that, and thats where it gets unhealthy for you to even play a video game, and you should stop because your obviously not old enough to own a pc and a game where people get shot.

Okay, when I say I know something it's because I know it. I don't rage. I don't care, I wasn't crying about being killed or I would have just made a post going "Waaaaahhhhhh Someone KILLED MEEEEE :( Wow what an asshole Waaaaaahhhhhh." No, I was just asking about why everyone seems to be so hostile towards each other. And I think it's just a bit off that you're going to say I'm not old enough to own a PC? That is a pretty bold accusation.

So how about you quit wasting everyone's oxygen and get out of here.

Edited July 20, 2012 by MyNameIsReed

[NightRipper 284]

One of the reasons people kill on sight is because it's a game. Means of interaction between players is EXTREMELY narrow compared to IRL. You can't make signs, use any communication technology, you aren't given the tools to form a cohesive society, there's no incentive to develop law and order... I could go on, but my point should be obvious by now. In a perma-death GAME, which is, in comparison to reality, extremely linear and scripted, people will react within the framework they're given. Shooting on sight is the best way to preserve your loot (at the moment), which is what you spent your time gathering in the first place, and is subject to removal upon 'death.' So yeah, when QWOP mechanics and breathing and blinking and half a million other things that we have IRL that aren't in the game are put in place by Rocket, complaining about how people are arguably acting contrary to their nature will be legitimate. But until then, that logic is flawed.

[sixbarns 217]

I will kill any of you if it meant the difference between life and death for my family or myself.

In game, I will kill any of you that points a gun at me or gets too close. Why would I trust you?

It's okay if some of you don't understand why.

[LumberBack 43]

HAHA you can call me a douche or whatever you want, its a game and its the internet, its not some serious job or RL commitment, i dont need to follow someones QQ rules because they cant take being shot in a...... wait for it......... game..... i know alot of you cry in cod and bf3 because you get owned, and then call someone a hacker, yeah i feel ya lol, then you come to this game, and expect different? what the? this game has weapons, and im damn right gonna use them on something else than bot zombies, and soon it will be only because of whiners whining about being killed, im not even gonna loot, just hide the body and watch ur stuffz sink into the ground as i laugh, yeah, thats the community QQ'ers are making soon, people are getting fed up, so keep on strolling down that beautifull road, and let me know if your happy about it.

i have been killed aswell, but so what? right now my char is like 6-7 days old, and im waiting for my death so i can start over, this might result in me just being in cherno making everyones day a living hell, not because im a troll, but because they get so butthurt and should worry and whine about other things in life than something so little, its the same in eve, people whine about being killed, or being robbed, when its a sandbox game, you CANNOT whine about anything but hacks and cheats and exploits, stuff that makes the game unplayable for others like shutting down a server or using aimbot and wallhack and spawning stuff or disconnecting. if you get shot from the get go, spawn another place, or think about what you did wrong when you looted cherno, did you sneak in cherno? cuz thats stupid.

people today needs shit served on a silver plate before they can actually function, they cant just go ahead and learn from their own mistakes, and when you cant acknowledge that YOU made the mistake yourself, then they come to the forum and whine about other players killing them... I could have been survivor, it was my plan at the beginning, but this forum changed it all. Thanks

funny how people blame a forum for their shitty ways... i cant stand the whole, its just a game, its just the internet, its just your mom... type of views on life... its just sanbox, so i can be a big douch... guess that is what happens when kids are aloud out of their homes...

[Psychobob 155]

Okay, so here's the question. Why is it that in a game where it is pretty much the end of the world via a Zombie Apocalypse WE ALL KILL EACH OTHER??? I mean WTF? If this really happened people would kill people but not at such a large scale. People KILL people ON SIGHT; now that just isn't right.

This isn't an argument, it's a debate. Please tell me your opinion.

When there are no rules or consequences, the true character is shown. When people's lives(or items) are in danger, people will follow their base animal instinct, fight or flight, kill or be killed. I'm not saying DayZ is exactly how a real zombie apocalypse would be, obviously it's a game, but things like this do and will continue to happen.

Personally if I were in this situation and I or anyone I care for was in danger, I would defend by any means. I would also help others who needed it if I was able.

There is no debate when it comes to base animal instincts or the character of other humans in situations with no consequences..

If you don't want to be a victim, then don't be one.

Edited July 20, 2012 by Psychobob

[ivan keska 39]

its a game, we play it to have fun, so we kill people to have fun, or help them, we decide, since its OUR game, as long as we play the game without using any sort of hacks or cheats then you can do NOTHING about it, live with it or leave, atleast some of the people who kill you arent disconnecters, my group is against it, but we damn right kill anyone we come across, weapon or no weapon.

Thats the thing, your killing to have fun in a game thats meant to be a "realistic" zombie sim. You see the problem there.

[Powell (DayZ) 734]

It is an ITEM BASED GAME, what do you expect? People kill for items, the characters mean nothing to them

[noobfun 87]

When there are no rules or consequences, the true character is shown.

and his name is Trevor, if your not Trevors friedn before shit went down your unlikley to become his friend after shits gone down

[resistence1993 6]

i dont think its out of place in every zombie apocalipse in films/comics/tv series people start becoming more and more violent to eachother over time the good people the ones who refuse to kill people are killed

as i posted in another thread i dont think dayz is a static game set lets say 50 days after a zombie apocalipse i think its a continual story since dayz was released weapons ammo and other suplies have spawned less and zombies tweaked to have better senses and spawn more and because people

and just in a normal zombie apocalipse the majority of people go bad shooting people on sight because they are starving to death or need ammo or whatever and they know that if they ask the perosn they would probabley just kill and loot there pathetic suplies so they shoot them i think if there was a real zzombie apocalipse that what is happening on dayz would probabley happen in reality

[Psychobob 155]

and his name is Trevor, if your not Trevors friedn before shit went down your unlikley to become his friend after shits gone down

True that everyone will revert to their base character, but not everyone's base character is a senseless psychopath. I can guess that if I were in a situation like the zombie apocalypse, I would still not murder someone unless I had to, to directly protect myself or someone I care for. I would not murder someone just to take what they have, I would rather die.

Fortunately for me, I know how to find food or survive off the land, so-to-speak. Other people who think the same way as I do but don't know how to survive may change their beliefs once they see their family or themselves starving to death.

Humans are way to complicated, nothing will ever be perfectly black and white with us, myself included. All I know is that if I was alone with no one to care for but myself and for some reason couldn't survive off the land, I would die before forcefully taking other people's supplies, from someone who I didn't feel deserved it, determining who deserves it is the hard part and will have very large areas of grey. It would all be based on what you see and your own morals. I would rather die knowing nobody I thought of as undeserving had to die just for me to survive.

Then again, nobody will ever truely know until they are actually in the situation, we can only make our best guess based on how well we know ourselves.

Edited July 20, 2012 by Psychobob

[sixbarns 217]

"Why do you guys keep killing me. I finally found a car and someone shoots me with a rocket launcher at the airport! OMG why!?" - found on the Grand Theft Auto 4 forums

"I killed a guy and felt really bad.. *sadface*" - found on the Call of Duty forums

"We need a way to trade items anonymously for real money because it's been really hard and expensive to stop gold farming. Pay to win is the future anyway." - overheard at a Blizzard Entertainment game design meeting.

[Lyncher 18]

This was a lovely opion based topic that turned into a bowl of steaming hateshit. Some people actually tried to state an opinion. That part was neat the rest of you had no relevant input and just cause shit. Gratz

[ripbabyg@hotmail.co.uk 125]

People who have Opinions are trolls so i hear.

[Lyncher 18]

Holy that post was enlighting. Fuck you!

[noobfun 87]

True that everyone will revert to their base character, but not everyone's base character is a senseless psychopath. I can guess that if I were in a situation like the zombie apocalypse, I would still not murder someone unless I had to, to directly protect myself or someone I care for. I would not murder someone just to take what they have, I would rather die.Fortunately for me, I know how to find food or survive off the land, so-to-speak. Other people who think the same way as I do but don't know how to survive may change their beliefs once they see their family or themselves starving to death.Humans are way to complicated, nothing will ever be perfectly black and white with us, myself included. All I know is that if I was alone with no one to care for but myself and for some reason couldn't survive off the land, I would die before forcefully taking other people's supplies, from someone who I didn't feel deserved it, determining who deserves it is the hard part and will have very large areas of grey. It would all be based on what you see and your own morals. I would rather die knowing nobody I thought of as undeserving had to die just for me to survive.Then again, nobody will ever truely know until they are actually in the situation, we can only make our best guess based on how well we know ourselves.

hai thar Trevor, you already have the strong in group/out group sorted, it just take a bit of motivation through pressure nowsure its grey areas, thats where Trevor works best, thats where he can play and you dont even realise, thats where you start to justify Trevors actions as if you had a choice in it 'they had plenty', 'ill just take enough for now', 'theres lots of them so they can easily get more', 'they wont miss it' and if someone tries to stop you, 'i had to if i hadnt they would have done me in', 'i ddint want to but i had no choice', 'they had it commming to them' Edited July 20, 2012 by stuffnthings