Dayz assessment based on last update

[ZinMas 101 42]

Ok so new sounds effects have been added in the new update, like opening can of food etc... which is cool, but...

- Players are taking off their shoes to make less noise in PVP situations (problem is the character doesnt makes any noise while taking them off; that should be another sound effect so the rest of players have the chance to hear the other trying to take off his shoes)  I think every clothes/accesory should have effect sound if taken or removed from the character (just as taking/removing weapons in hands; everything the character is about to wear or to remove should have sound effect and it should take like a couple of seconds to do the action) It would be a good mechanic and reallistic since you need some seconds to wear or to remove clothes from you plus you make some noise. 

- Players still being able to run uphill mountain without stamina or velocity penalty. It breaks lot of good old and reallistic mechanics. Like being at heigh should be a natural defense against an another players rush. Like the mountains are supossed to be kind of a natural borders. When we had the penalty in older versions, mountains acted like that, like natural borders so players normally avoided them and took the roads instead mostly like so it encourage players encounters.

- Infecteds are broken in my opinnion. You can't even approach them while crouching silently to do the silent attack... they spot you the most of the times and they are even able to atack you by facing you with their back. They still blocking doors while chasing players into buildings due a bad "path finding" which is rrrrreally annoying in PVP situations. Plus they detect you so fast just because the steps, it doesnt makes sense since they are normally in groups so they are hearing steps all the time....... so it shouldnt be anything weird for infecteds.

 

What do yo think guys? Should devs take care of this things?

 

 

Edited October 1, 2023 by ZinMas 101

[lemmac 101]

2 hours ago, ZinMas 101 said:

- Infecteds are broken in my opinnion... and they are even able to atack you by facing you with their back.

With you on that - it's really annoying and immersion breaking

[Misnomera 70]

13 hours ago, ZinMas 101 said:

Ok so new sounds effects have been added in the new update, like opening can of food etc... which is cool, but...

- Players are taking off their shoes to make less noise (problem is the character doesnt makes any noise by taking them off; that should be another sound effect so the rest of players have the chance to hear the other trying to take off his shoes)  I think every clothes/accesory should have effect sound if taken or removed from the character.

- Players still being able to run uphill mountain without stamina or velocity penalty. It breaks lot of good old and reallistic mechanics. Like being at heigh should be a defense against a rush. Like the mountains are supossed to be kind of a natural borders. When we had the penalty in older versions, mountains acted like that, like natural borders so players normally avoided them and took the roads instead mostly like so it encourage players encounters.

- Infecteds are broken in my opinnion. You can't even approach them while crouching silently to do the silent attack... they spot you the most of the times and they are even able to atack you by facing you with their back. They still blocking doors while chasing players into buildings due a bad "path finding" which is rrrrreally annoying in PVP situations. Plus they detect you so fast just because the steps, it doesnt makes sense since they are normally in groups so they are hearing steps all the time....... so it shouldnt be anything weird for infecteds.

 

What do yo think guys? Should devs take care of this things?

 

 

1)  taking off shoes should be quieter, aside from the possibility of taking damage from a cut

2) agreed; taking positional advantage should be rewarded. No human can run straight up a hill in full kit like that, and they certainly wouldnt be able to effectively shoulder a weapon while doing so

3) infected obviously need work; they are so incredibly annoying to fight, especially during combat. I wish they were tweaked such that they were more scary than frustrating, and they should be satisfying to kill. I deal with the infected in a very systematic, robotic way, that makes them a nuisance to get rid of. I think games like Left for Dead and Dead Island have zombie combat down a bit better.  

[robmgnsn92 5]

Especially the zeds glitching right through you, hitting you from the back and getting an instant cut even with good clothes/armor. 

There are more glitches around doors, you can get stuck in a door very easily like when trying to trap zeds etc.

They also need to buff some of the melee weapons. It should not take 7 hits with a crowbar to down anything.

[Misnomera 70]

I forgot to mention that the infected are way too perceptive. They can hear you crouch-sprint for 2 seconds from 30 feet away. 

The fact that their tracking inherently knows what doors are open in a house is ridiculous, and it's the same for the wolves; if you close the back door to get away from a wolf, theyll run around to the front door if it's open.

Another example of extreme perception from the zeds is how they drift toward you even when youre prone in a bush. Theyll continue to move closer until they literally walk onto you and find you despite no movement on your part 

[General Zod 1118]

You can take your shoes off quietly enough that anyone who is not in the same room as you won't hear it. Not everything in this game has to make noise to alert people to your presence. 

[Faz3r 0]

On 9/30/2023 at 9:01 PM, ZinMas 101 said:

Players are taking off their shoes to make less noise in PVP situations (problem is the character doesnt makes any noise while taking them off; that should be another sound effect so the rest of players have the chance to hear the other trying to take off his shoes)  I think every clothes/accesory should have effect sound if taken or removed from the character (just as taking/removing weapons in hands; everything the character is about to wear or to remove should have sound effect and it should take like a couple of seconds to do the action) It would be a good mechanic and reallistic since you need some seconds to wear or to remove clothes from you plus you make some noise. 

Does it make noise when you take your shoes/clothes off!? That's the most ridiculous thing I've read this year! How are you supposed to sneak about if someone's in your base raiding for example! More noise more attention,  wake up & get back on planet earth!

[ZinMas 101 42]

20 hours ago, Faz3r said:

Does it make noise when you take your shoes/clothes off!? That's the most ridiculous thing I've read this year! How are you supposed to sneak about if someone's in your base raiding for example! More noise more attention,  wake up & get back on planet earth!

So you dont make noise by wearing/taking off your clothes? And do you do it inmediatly or you take some seconds to do that? 

[ZinMas 101 42]

On 10/2/2023 at 7:18 PM, General Zod said:

You can take your shoes off quietly enough that anyone who is not in the same room as you won't hear it. Not everything in this game has to make noise to alert people to your presence. 

Yes thats true but it would take some seconds right? But in my opinion, every clothes/accesory the character wears or take off should have sound effect.

 

By the same logic you can take anything in your hands without making noise and I wont notice in the same room in RL right? Or you could eat wihout making noise... Or you could unpin a grenade without making noise right? But in Dayz it does noise.... why? Think about that...

Edited October 4, 2023 by ZinMas 101

[Pyongo Bongo 242]

Pretty funny how you can have 3.600 .22 bullets in your jacket and pants but taking off your shoes makes you near silent xD

[General Zod 1118]

5 hours ago, ZinMas 101 said:

So you dont make noise by wearing/taking off your clothes? And do you do it inmediatly or you take some seconds to do that? 

Yes people do make noise taking of clothes, very little noise. And we can do it with varied speed to control the level of noise, which means that unless you're in the same room as a person undressing you won't be able to hear that. Unless you wear clothes with some trinkets attached to them in which case I understand your point. People can move with minimal sounds, people can perform various actions with minimal noise. Not everything in this game has to alert everyone in 100m radius, we can't open doors quietly which we should, eating and drinking is obscenely loud. 

[lemmac 101]

Maybe a modifier key that you can hold to do any action more quietly with the negative of it taking longer to complete... could just use the crouch button as the modifier, keeping you low at the same time as keeping you quiet

[ZinMas 101 42]

On 10/4/2023 at 12:01 PM, General Zod said:

Yes people do make noise taking of clothes, very little noise. And we can do it with varied speed to control the level of noise, which means that unless you're in the same room as a person undressing you won't be able to hear that. Unless you wear clothes with some trinkets attached to them in which case I understand your point. People can move with minimal sounds, people can perform various actions with minimal noise. Not everything in this game has to alert everyone in 100m radius, we can't open doors quietly which we should, eating and drinking is obscenely loud. 

Of course, then, if you take off your clothes slowly to not making noise, then you have to take way more time to do that... right? If not I could perfectly hear you IRL by changing your clothes even if you are in other room apart of me

Edited October 6, 2023 by ZinMas 101
Better explain

[General Zod 1118]

On 10/6/2023 at 7:51 PM, ZinMas 101 said:

Of course, then, if you take off your clothes slowly to not making noise, then you have to take way more time to do that... right? If not I could perfectly hear you IRL by changing your clothes even if you are in other room apart of me

Yes, and guess what. In a world filled with hyper aggressive infected and murder happy survivors you would be doing a lot of things as quietly as possible. That includes taking your clothes off. And yes currently your clothes come off instantly but since we can't even get an option to open the doors slowly I think it's reasonable not to have every action make noise. 

[WOLVERlNES 135]

On 9/30/2023 at 4:01 PM, ZinMas 101 said:

You can't even approach them while crouching silently to do the silent attack..

I stealth kill 9 out of 10 infected with no problems. You can’t make any noise, crouch-walk up to them from behind and attack at the proper distance, it takes muscle memory.

I actually sprint crouch mostly and very rarely alert them before executing.

Edited October 23, 2023 by WOLVERlNES