Out of bounds item/vehicles cleanup [2012-07-06]

[z64dan 17]

Big thumbs up to the devs for this decision!

Note to people who are afraid of losing stuff: you can only lose what you have. So try not to have too much stuff :P

[kugelmeister 2]

What constitutes the "Boundary" of the map? Like our base is set up far north outside the boundary of the DayZDB map, but its on the in-game map and the GPS co-ordinates are 054-013, and its hidden in some trees...i spawned in the debug wasteland and ran back into the map, there was a line were trees/grass/bushes started spawning, is that considered the map cut-off?

[Ag3nt Richt3r 19]

I might decrease the 24h unused to say 6h. This should allow people to not risk getting their vehicle "reset" while they are still actively using it. But prevents daily refreshing of your "stuff" ala facebook mini games which require you to login every day to retain your bonuses *cringe*.

6h timer please!

2 Reasons:

1. Prevents daily "Facebook" style refreshing as you mentioned.

2. Opens vehicles up for everyone to enjoy, even "n00bs" like me who have a job, wife, a baby boy, and no spare time to play every day.

Off Topic: Now how about turning DCers into bunnys instead of just killing/incapping them?

[Paah (DayZ) 0]

What constitutes the "Boundary" of the map? Like our base is set up far north outside the boundary of the DayZDB map' date=' but its on the in-game map and the GPS co-ordinates are 054-013, and its hidden in some trees...i spawned in the debug wasteland and ran back into the map, there was a line were trees/grass/bushes started spawning, is that considered the map cut-off?

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Yes, there is clear line on the border.

6h timer sounds awesome! But why not disable saving vehicles/tents outside the map completely? No one should have any reason to go there anyway.

[Stooby 8]

They should just modify the map and turn it into an island.

[Mane (DayZ) 0]

just wanted to say thanks for the patch.

Game runs and looks much better.

Plus: I just found bicycles. Finally no more running at slow speed all the time.

[Chambers (DayZ) 27]

The six-hour limit is worth testing out, though it may be too short it my opinion.

One possible development from this change is that since tires and parts will be needed more often, organized groups will naturally want to have at least a small stockpile of those parts in reserve, and essentially have escorted 'pit crews' that will try and pounce and repair vehicles ASAP upon discovery.

Will vehicle parts become more rare due to this? Perhaps, but the idea of an armed 'pit crew' appearing from the woods, fixing a car, and killing zeds/attacking survivors and driving off does seem kind of fun.

[fecesreturns 6]

Not sure if this has been brought up already but why dont you just put a 15 second timer or something that kills you/destroys vehicles when your off the map? I know there are warfare maps with this option.

[Azrail (DayZ) 211]

I have a second copy' date=' it's much less than 30 buks: you only need OA.

PS: clans pays MUCH more than 30 buks.. and each month, look at those renting multiple servers. They surely wouldn't be scared to pay $15 for another OA copy (or even $150 for ten of them... while some are doing already, using alternate accounts as "offline tents"). Do not understimate clans dedication (and money "wasting").

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yes i figure, i bet most of the "clans" we see complaining in this thread do that. but they are the ones loosing the most money, so they are likely to be the most butthurt, cluttering this thread with their tears :D (i actually like that)

but this game is ALPHA, i mean... we don't know if it will still be running next month. i would really really hate to pay 50 bucks to cheat in a mod, just to hear its taken down a month later.

[WalkerDown (DayZ) 296]

I might decrease the 24h unused to say 6h. This should allow people to not risk getting their vehicle "reset" while they are still actively using it. But prevents daily refreshing of your "stuff" ala facebook mini games which require you to login every day to retain your bonuses *cringe*.

Do not understimate these guys nerdish capabilities.. i've seen crazy things dones by "pro" videogamers (as they call themself) to maintain their "pro" status (like literally PAYING PEOPLE to farm for them.. and stuff like that). I would say that if someone is crazy enough to login every 6 hours to do such things, i feel so bad for him to leaves he hiding the vehicles... but i would prefer to see a definitive solution: 1 hour cleanup should discourage even the most "dedicate" exploiter (maybe?).

My opinion is that you shouldn't go there at all... but i understand that there might be technical limit to prevent it, so 1h would works better (or even do not save at all the position in the DB while you're off-map is even better).

[Jokerr (DayZ) 0]

By "Outside map boundaries" do you mean the in-game map boundaries? Cause for example this map shows these boundaries (http://dayzdb.com/map#4.029.026)

BUT the INGAME map is a little bigger.Should we reffer to the INGAME map boundaries?

[sparta436 46]

I might decrease the 24h unused to say 6h. This should allow people to not risk getting their vehicle "reset" while they are still actively using it. But prevents daily refreshing of your "stuff" ala facebook mini games which require you to login every day to retain your bonuses *cringe*.

Do not understimate these guys nerdish capabilities.. i've seen crazy things dones by "pro" videogamers (as they call themself) to maintain their "pro" status (like literally PAYING PEOPLE to farm for them.. and stuff like that). I would say that if someone is crazy enough to login every 6 hours to do such things' date=' i feel so bad for him to leaves he hiding the vehicles... but i would prefer to see a definitive solution: 1 hour cleanup should discourage even the most "dedicate" exploiter (maybe?).

My opinion is that you shouldn't go there at all... but i understand that there might be technical limit to prevent it, so 1h would works better (or even do not save at all the position in the DB while you're off-map is even better).

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Alternatively, people can just gather 10 friends, or make friends with 10 strangers (like i did) and hoard vehicles and weapons through hard work and dedication...

Why is everyone so against this?

[Azrail (DayZ) 211]

Alternatively' date=' people can just gather 10 friends, or make friends with 10 strangers (like i did) and hoard vehicles and weapons through hard work and dedication...

Why is everyone so against this?

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Noone is against this.

Just don't park your car in the desert, thank you.

[alan.dougherty@ntlworld.com 24]

Alternatively' date=' people can just gather 10 friends, or make friends with 10 strangers (like i did) and hoard vehicles and weapons through hard work and dedication...

Why is everyone so against this?

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No one is against people finding/stealing/repairing vehicles, and keeping them for themselves..

Just do it ON THE MAP... driving every vehicle 30k west is not how the game mechanics are intended.

[z64dan 17]

[Jokerr (DayZ) 0]

Guys,when you are looking at in-game map,the big grids,are 0 to 015 both horizontal and vertical coords,in the game's boundaries?Safe to put tents in there?

[z64dan 17]

Guys' date='when you are looking at in-game map,the big grids,are 0 to 015 both horizontal and vertical coords,in the game's boundaries?Safe to put tents in there?

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The grass disappears. There are no trees, only rolling, grassless hills.

[Jokerr (DayZ) 0]

Thanks alot mate.

[z64dan 17]

Thanks alot mate.

Yeah my favorite loot map (dayzdb.com/map) doesn't actually show the entirety of the actual map, just 90% of it (or so). There's no loot within 1km or so of the actual map borders, so I guess that's why they cropped it the way they did.

[bascal 1]

What about the teeny tiny island way off the coast to the East-Southeast.

[CommanderKeen 0]

hopefully illegal vehicles will also disappear in this sweep. There were a couple choppers flying around the other day in our server... not cool.

[Coden 3]

The shorter the off-map timer reset is, the better imo!

Ofc down to a reasonable degree but since there are no valid reasons to camp off-map or store anything there OR park vehicles there, I think the timer should be very short.

24 hours is ridiculosly long, 4-6 hours is MORE than enough.

[Disgraced 1123]

What about the teeny tiny island way off the coast to the East-Southeast.

WE don't go to Skalisty any more.

[jsteph87@live.com 1]

"yuor nott plaing teh gaem rite!!!!111!!! teh on1y wai t0 plai iz teh wai i plai!!!!!11!! haorddin veclus iz n00000000 funnzzz!!!!!!!eleven!!!1one!! clanz n33d to plai teh wai i plai cuz itz teh ony rite funz wai!!!!!!!!!"

All this bullshit needs to stop. Your way of playing (i.e. spending 95% of your time in chern because you die to people who are better prepared and then have to waste hours upon hours getting all your stuff back) is no more valid than any other way of playing.

[Disgraced 1123]

"yuor nott plaing teh gaem rite!!!!111!!! teh on1y wai t0 plai iz teh wai i plai!!!!!11!! haorddin veclus iz n00000000 funnzzz!!!!!!!eleven!!!1one!! clanz n33d to plai teh wai i plai cuz itz teh ony rite funz wai!!!!!!!!!"

All this bullshit needs to stop. Your way of playing (i.e. spending 95% of your time in chern because you die to people who are better prepared and then have to waste hours upon hours getting all your stuff back) is no more valid than any other way of playing.

Those who decide what's right have changed what that means, haven't they?