voilala 0 Posted July 4, 2012 To us it is not important now in a bath we on it or not We want punishment for the racist We have video and screens You have only wordsWe playing managed to write down and you keeping order on the server isn't present To write that it is possible and to say lies much and with video of a word not to clean You have on the server us for you players instead of Russian, Turki My didn't call you on a national sign for us you the manager of the game server.We want that the racist of the administrator had no server or the racist of the administrator wasn't in dayz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheEx1le (DayZ) 6 Posted July 4, 2012 I do believe that banning people for using their native language is racism, and it is also a blacklist-able offense. The ban for spamming yes I agree with, but just for speaking russian is a big no-no. There was a huge thread on it in here before the rollback happened in which Devs specifically said as much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dsfjuicifer@live.co.uk 0 Posted July 4, 2012 Ex1le, the ban was not given for purely and only speaking russian, the things which contributed to their ban were in no specific order as follows:1 - Disconnecting during combat on multiple occasions2 - Insulting the administrators and their decisions3 - Speaking russian on chat even after being asked on multiple occasions to only speak in English/French so the majority of players can understand, considering everyone hears it, this rule is very reasonable.4 - Spamming chat with absolute nonesence5 - Collecting a large quantity of vehicles and storing them far outside the map bounds, so that the average players has absolutely no way of recovering themThe above ban reasons aswell as a few other minor issues were what lead to their group inevitably being permanently banned from our server. Prior to this we also temp-banned one of their group members so that he could reflect on what he did and then return after the 3day ban to continue playing. But they have gone way too far for our liking and we will keep these bans enforced. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voilala 0 Posted July 4, 2012 Watch video there will be as the administrator speaks read rules Also calls us on a national sign and it not the first time It constantly reminds that we Russian You really blind Video of 1.11 Zylys were written by fuking russianIt not insults on a national sign????For the manager I am the player of Voilala Instead of Fuking russian Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheEx1le (DayZ) 6 Posted July 4, 2012 Ex1le' date=' the ban was not given for purely and only speaking russian, the things which contributed to their ban were in no specific order as follows:1 - Disconnecting during combat on multiple occasions2 - Insulting the administrators and their decisions3 - Speaking russian on chat even after being asked on multiple occasions to only speak in English/French so the majority of players can understand, considering everyone hears it, this rule is very reasonable.4 - Spamming chat with absolute nonesence5 - Collecting a large quantity of vehicles and storing them far outside the map bounds, so that the average players has absolutely no way of recovering themThe above ban reasons aswell as a few other minor issues were what lead to their group inevitably being permanently banned from our server. Prior to this we also temp-banned one of their group members so that he could reflect on what he did and then return after the 3day ban to continue playing. But they have gone way too far for our liking and we will keep these bans enforced.[/quote']Not disagreeing with you. Those are valid reasons for you to be annoyed with, but the simple fact is you said to them to not speak Russian, which you are not allowed to do I'm afraid. As admins we have to put up with some level of crap because of the way the rules have been implemented on us (referring to your second point here, but it is up to you what you deem disruptive and insulting to the point to warrant a ban), but you cant tell them not to speak their own language, it can cause problems for your server. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voilala 0 Posted July 4, 2012 And why you me don't call Fukicng russian As in game on video 1.11 minuteArrive to Russia and repeat the phrase of fukicng russianYou besides that called me though you are a manager also you shouldn't do it started to touch a nationality.you can not write any more about cars, flood.You mentioned nationalities For it you should incur punishments for me you not the manager. And idle time small offended by Russian for loss of cars the boy.I consider that the manager who shouts at all server mentions a nationality of players should be punished. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dsfjuicifer@live.co.uk 0 Posted July 4, 2012 Not disagreeing with you. Those are valid reasons for you to be annoyed with' date=' but the simple fact is you said to them to not speak Russian, which you are not allowed to do I'm afraid. As admins we have to put up with some level of crap because of the way the rules have been implemented on us (referring to your second point here, but it is up to you what you deem disruptive and insulting to the point to warrant a ban), but you cant tell them not to speak their own language, it can cause problems for your server.[/quote']So I am not permitted to have a rule which states English/French only in Sidechat? Seems a bit strange but if that's the case then that rule can be removed, I understand there is a baseline of rules to follow to ensure everyone has a fair time and get feedback on the alpha test. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voilala 0 Posted July 4, 2012 You are a Manager and should behave properlyAnd you yourself moved as the racist from the first our meeting in gameAlso there is no to you a justificationLook in a chat ZylysTime 1.11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dsfjuicifer@live.co.uk 0 Posted July 4, 2012 Voilala, I refuse to speak with you and your group, your constant crying is not going to progress this...We have said all we are going to, and provided all reasons behind the ban. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheEx1le (DayZ) 6 Posted July 4, 2012 Not disagreeing with you. Those are valid reasons for you to be annoyed with' date=' but the simple fact is you said to them to not speak Russian, which you are not allowed to do I'm afraid. As admins we have to put up with some level of crap because of the way the rules have been implemented on us (referring to your second point here, but it is up to you what you deem disruptive and insulting to the point to warrant a ban), but you cant tell them not to speak their own language, it can cause problems for your server.[/quote']So I am not permitted to have a rule which states English/French only in Sidechat? Seems a bit strange but if that's the case then that rule can be removed, I understand there is a baseline of rules to follow to ensure everyone has a fair time and get feedback on the alpha test.Correct, you are not allowed that rule. Currently there are very few things we can ban for but luckily 1. and 2. of your previous points are bans. I'm unsure of number five, perhaps i have catching up to do :). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voilala 0 Posted July 4, 2012 The facts speak for themselves to you there is nothing will objectOn many servers it is written We have no nationalities But for you there are no rules. This serious violationsNot disagreeing with you. Those are valid reasons for you to be annoyed with' date=' but the simple fact is you said to them to not speak Russian, which you are not allowed to do I'm afraid. As admins we have to put up with some level of crap because of the way the rules have been implemented on us (referring to your second point here, but it is up to you what you deem disruptive and insulting to the point to warrant a ban), but you cant tell them not to speak their own language, it can cause problems for your server.[/quote']So I am not permitted to have a rule which states English/French only in Sidechat? Seems a bit strange but if that's the case then that rule can be removed, I understand there is a baseline of rules to follow to ensure everyone has a fair time and get feedback on the alpha test.Correct, you are not allowed that rule. Currently there are very few things we can ban for but luckily 1. and 2. of your previous points are bans. I'm unsure of number five, perhaps i have catching up to do :).yes do that you want But the Administrator of the racist shouldn't be in dayz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dsfjuicifer@live.co.uk 0 Posted July 4, 2012 Not disagreeing with you. Those are valid reasons for you to be annoyed with' date=' but the simple fact is you said to them to not speak Russian, which you are not allowed to do I'm afraid. As admins we have to put up with some level of crap because of the way the rules have been implemented on us (referring to your second point here, but it is up to you what you deem disruptive and insulting to the point to warrant a ban), but you cant tell them not to speak their own language, it can cause problems for your server.[/quote']So I am not permitted to have a rule which states English/French only in Sidechat? Seems a bit strange but if that's the case then that rule can be removed, I understand there is a baseline of rules to follow to ensure everyone has a fair time and get feedback on the alpha test.Correct, you are not allowed that rule. Currently there are very few things we can ban for but luckily 1. and 2. of your previous points are bans. I'm unsure of number five, perhaps i have catching up to do :).Could you point me to the official word on that rule and I will have it removed on the next server restart. Thanks for letting me know about that one, guess I will have to put up with it.It may or may not have been commented on officially, but I refuse as a host to allow players to store their vehicles far outside the gameworld, to me that is an exploit which ruins other peoples fun in the server, tons of people ask me about the server's vehicles and when they can expect heli's and they have shown a huge interest in them, but if a group are hoarding them all out the map then they have no chance of ever coming across one in normal gameplay. And to me it is warrant a ban if they do not bring them back inside the map, along with the other points I feel the ban on these guys was justified. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voilala 0 Posted July 4, 2012 you offended us on a national sign And not that won't acquit youAnd as you are a Manager it means a position of administration of the serverwe want punishment for the racist Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheEx1le (DayZ) 6 Posted July 4, 2012 Not disagreeing with you. Those are valid reasons for you to be annoyed with' date=' but the simple fact is you said to them to not speak Russian, which you are not allowed to do I'm afraid. As admins we have to put up with some level of crap because of the way the rules have been implemented on us (referring to your second point here, but it is up to you what you deem disruptive and insulting to the point to warrant a ban), but you cant tell them not to speak their own language, it can cause problems for your server.[/quote']So I am not permitted to have a rule which states English/French only in Sidechat? Seems a bit strange but if that's the case then that rule can be removed, I understand there is a baseline of rules to follow to ensure everyone has a fair time and get feedback on the alpha test.Correct, you are not allowed that rule. Currently there are very few things we can ban for but luckily 1. and 2. of your previous points are bans. I'm unsure of number five, perhaps i have catching up to do :).Could you point me to the official word on that rule and I will have it removed on the next server restart. Thanks for letting me know about that one, guess I will have to put up with it.It may or may not have been commented on officially, but I refuse as a host to allow players to store their vehicles far outside the gameworld, to me that is an exploit which ruins other peoples fun in the server, tons of people ask me about the server's vehicles and when they can expect heli's and they have shown a huge interest in them, but if a group are hoarding them all out the map then they have no chance of ever coming across one in normal gameplay. And to me it is warrant a ban if they do not bring them back inside the map, along with the other points I feel the ban on these guys was justified.I'm afraid I do not have a link, the thread was lost in the DB rollback that happened after a hack attempt (well at least I cant find it so I'm assuming it it was). You should PM a mod for clarity on it but it was commented on by devs themselves that it wasn't allowed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dsfjuicifer@live.co.uk 0 Posted July 4, 2012 Alright Ex1le, will try to get official word on enforcing certain languages in sidechat, oh and on a side note Ex1le, in between our messages do you see what I have to put up with? They have a large group who kept spouting the same random jibberish over and over for hours... It gets quite tiresome >_> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheEx1le (DayZ) 6 Posted July 4, 2012 Got to thank the admin though. Way too many Russians spread out on other non-RU servers' date=' causing pure Russian havoc and a general pain in the ass. No foreign language or ban, pls.[/quote']I have issued Kuningas a 1 week ban from the forums.There is nothing that I despise more in this world than racism. If people would travel a bit, they would see how similar we all are. Yes, not being able to understand creates some difficulties. But we should be tolerant, treat others as we want to be treated.Ping blocks are fine, that is indiscriminate and based on performance. But can someone please explain what isn't entirely racist about that comment.Regarding block/ban for language. I pretty much put racism on the same level as hacking. In fact, in many ways it is worse. I can kind of understand the reasons why someone would hack. But to dislike someone simply because you don't understand what they say, that makes no sense to me.We don't really have a lot of rules, but this one is very strong. Please respect that rule and take it as an opportunity to learn a bit more about another culture and language.Found it: http://dayzmod.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=6377&page=4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dsfjuicifer@live.co.uk 0 Posted July 4, 2012 Ah great thanks, will make sure to remove that rule on the next server reboot then and inform the admin team of the change. I don't personally see enforcing of languages in sidechat as racist but more of a way for people to understand eachother, because the server is located in france so obviously it will attract french players, but I set the rule of english/french only as they are understood by the vast majority of players, and being sidechat I would have rather most people understand eachother. I guess right now I have no choice but to follow the rule set by the devs and will get this sorted out tomorrow, it is very late and I will be sleeping soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orphen (DayZ) 14 Posted July 4, 2012 A server admin should never be racist. Ever. Under any circumstance. Whilst I feel a ban may be justified if what is being said about this group is true, there is no reason for the admin to use racism.This server should be blacklisted because of this admin's attitude towards players not of his nationality. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voilala 0 Posted July 4, 2012 Question here only about punishment of the administrator for nation insults Bana for Russian ok Erased cars okBut for statements about a nationality the question isn't closed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Irokez 0 Posted July 4, 2012 Question here only about punishment of the administrator for nation insults Bana for Russian ok Erased cars okBut for statements about a nationality the question isn't closedPunishing the whole administration of the server, not an admin. Why not? Because an administrator is responsible for others. You chose it! And you are responsible for it all together! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voilala 0 Posted July 4, 2012 Watch video 1.11the manager involves us with the words fukicn russians Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dsfjuicifer@live.co.uk 0 Posted July 4, 2012 A server admin should never be racist. Ever. Under any circumstance. Whilst I feel a ban may be justified if what is being said about this group is true' date=' there is no reason for the admin to use racism.This server should be blacklisted because of this admin's attitude towards players not of his nationality.[/quote']Orphen, why should the server be blacklisted for one of my admins attitudes? He is entitled to his own opinion as are all of my admins and the community. All of the reasons behind this ban are true and have occured over this groups long-term stay within our server, getting progressively worse as if they own the place and nothing can be done to them.I will inform the admins to settle down in the server and to allow me to handle anything like this in future and will have the rule removed next reboot as I previously stated, but the reasons behind their ban are far more than one of our admin's attitudes. I firmly believe these bans are 100% justified and ask that they just go play on another server, our community does not welcome their unfair play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voilala 0 Posted July 4, 2012 The manager doesn't understand That chat violations flood not such such serious violations as insults manager of nationalities Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheEx1le (DayZ) 6 Posted July 4, 2012 A server admin should never be racist. Ever. Under any circumstance. Whilst I feel a ban may be justified if what is being said about this group is true' date=' there is no reason for the admin to use racism.This server should be blacklisted because of this admin's attitude towards players not of his nationality.[/quote']To be fair, they implemented a rule for his server which is common on alot of other MP servers and it is also not listed in the rules in the announcements section that its not against the rules. But DayZ is different, the rules are different and now he knows. EDIT: watched the video, the russian comment was uncalled for tbh.Question here only about punishment of the administrator for nation insults Bana for Russian ok Erased cars okBut for statements about a nationality the question isn't closedHonestly I think you will need to wait for the staff to look at this. The server owners put their input in, you'll just need to wait and see what happens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voilala 0 Posted July 4, 2012 Simply very strongly bothered that the manager to us addresses not on nicknames And constantly tries to mention a nationality and to offend Also it is the manager??????????? It is an official position of administration of the server to Russian players??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites