Kicking from Vilayer server IS ALLOWED.

[pilgrim* 3514]

On 23/2/2016 at 1:53 PM, ori42 said:

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I only miss a good quality private night/day server in dayz, but I often play on the experiemental branch servers which have both night/day cycles. 

 

Off topic - but since you mention day/night:  Gameservers do not like daylight players

I count 79 Gameserves Public/Vetran ("official") servers across Europe - all run 24/24 on local time - so after 6 pm (1800h) these are ALL DARK.

I hear the same goes for USA and the rest of the world - all the Gamesever public servers are set to be NIGHT for ALL THE TIME that most people play.

I think it is great that Gameserves have made this effort to make SURE that EVERYONE who comes home from School or comes home from Work can only play in TOTAL DARKNESS on ALL the Gameservers' Public DayZ servers in the world.

Last Sunday ONE 'official server' was running 2 hours later than all the rest (probably an error) - so at 6pm the server ran on 4pm time, with another WHOLE hour of daylight gameplay time before nightfall - that server was 50/50 full.

The other 70+ servers in Europe were already dark and had 1-3 players per server -  That is a max of 3 players for each of SEVENTY "official" servers which are always DARK during ALL WELL-KNOWN NORMAL GAMING HOURS.

Who wants to play DayZ in daylight? NOT Gameservers, for sure, they do NOT like daylight players on their on Official Public Servers.

They could set those 70 public servers to day/night if they wanted to - so I guess they don't want to ?

xx

Edited February 24, 2016 by pilgrim / pilgrim

[sneakydude 480]

8 hours ago, ZomboWTF said:

no, i mean public servers that are passworded/autokick/whitelist, in effect servers with private access having the public hive connection

every server is allowed to kick IF IT HAS A REASON, you aren't allowed to kick people from servers that are connected to the public hive like you want, they have to be hacking/exploiting/harrassing other players

Ok public have no option to password (this is private only).--see previous note on private displayed as public-- but is private. (white list on the other hand, would be scripted, so is autokick) Those are rule infractions. Vilayer i know are running by the seat of their pants on the rules. That i do agree about.

Yes public public public is not allowed to kick at all except cheating.

When i had vilayer, we had many restrictions. They also noted that any custom scripts not allowed by BI will be removed and you can lose your money. Those where in the rules i did read once.

It is up to those hosting companies to follow these rules. But until BI gets moving on repairing this game there is little to 0 protection we can do. The crazy bugs, force people to find ways to cheat on the servers.

They rent a cheap server because they do not wish to pay full price to what we did Private master hive, and Private Slave Shard Both of those goes between each other.

Otherwise its the same as the way bi has it enabled pretty much, Master Shard, hooked to slaves....that are purchased atm by private vendors. Its pretty straight forward.

Edited February 23, 2016 by sneakydude

[pilgrim* 3514]

5 minutes ago, sneakydude said:

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. The crazy bugs, force people to find ways to cheat on the servers.

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DUH ?  .. hah ahhahahh hah ha hahahahha  hha ah ah ha

Good thing I KNOW you are totally joking brother.. nice one.. just for a moment I thought you were trying to say something dumb                        :)

[sneakydude 480]

it gets to the point we repeat and repeat ourselves constantly......

what else can we say??? lmao... Slip a stupid time one in there makes it all good and funny once in awhile.

Glad you like my sense of humor :)

 

Edited February 24, 2016 by sneakydude

[sneakydude 480]

No but seriously we need BI to step up its program and start working with these hosting companies if they plan on keeping it an even level playing field in public.

The rest can do what they want, its private.

Until the game is close to beta, or close to release there is no real point in complaining. There are so many issues at hand here.

[pilgrim* 3514]

Just right now the solution for TODAY is to play on an HONEST public server

If you are in the USA go play on    173.199.94.27:2302   <<  = THE HELPY HELPERS: FOR MERCY OR MAYHEM  >>

this is a good place

( and YES this is an advertisement - I'm telling you this is a straight honest public sever and they are HARD to find; Enjoy )

                                                                                                                

                                                                                                                                 

 

xx p

 

 

Edited February 24, 2016 by pilgrim / pilgrim
I found ONE honest fair public server (at least) .. because the people there WANT it to be

[sneakydude 480]

ok for murders to go? hehe /evil grins

[pilgrim* 3514]

5 hours ago, sneakydude said:

ok for murders to go? hehe /evil grins

honest murderers will be given a fair death

 

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173.199.94.27:2302   <<  = THE HELPY HELPERS: FOR MERCY OR MAYHEM  >>

[ZomboWTF 527]

18 hours ago, pilgrim / pilgrim said:

honest murderers will be given a fair death

as in "hung by the ears at a height where zombies can eat their testicles" fair?

[Funkmaster Rick 373]

On 21/02/2016 at 11:39 AM, pilgrim / pilgrim said:

Yep, well there are really a lot of them.

I checked all over the internet and I never found even one complaint or one message from ANY server owner who had his server closed for abuse. Never. Zero. Can you people find me one?

You ALL know this - If someone had his server closed down for playing DayZ the way he wants to (kicking people)  he'd be shouting about it - on this forum, on reddit. all over the web.

But - total silence - NO ONE has EVER had sanctions taken against them because of the way they run their public hive server. It does NOT happen.

If I'm wrong, show me.

This is the way DayZ is played right now - a REAL lot of people WANT to play it this way. They loot up, kick other players, play on the public hive, and they turn their server off when they are not online so no one can mess with their stashes. They do this because it is a standard way of playing that is ACCEPTED and TOLERATED. This is the real DayZ - you loot up on your own server, you go play PVP on other servers - no danger, no stress, no scarce loot, no survival bullshit - the players who want to play "the real game" are suckers.

Does anyone KNOW any server owner who was sanctioned for playing this way? - has anyone HEARD of a server being shut down? - Can you find anywhere on the internet ONE complaint from a clan or a server owner about being shut down?

No, ya cant.

If a server vanishes after "complaints" - look again, the dude changed the name of the server. Note his server IP and then check, you'll see the server is still there. Same IP different name string.

I can give you a list of 20 kick-servers in half an hour tonight, just in my region. The only problem is to find one or two straight servers. I can tell you which clans only come on at weekends to gear up and auto-kick everyone while they do it. I can list you the servers that only EVER have one player. I can list you the servers called "private" "kick" and "go f*** yourself".  I can show you the servers that change their name every week. Man this is boring.

The server-exploit is the standard way to play DayZ

 

 

Not finding a complaint doesn't prove anything, man. A lack of evidence only counts as evidence itself in books and movies. Honestly, think about this: if you're breaking the rules, get caught, get punished, are you really going to started complaining loudly about it all over the internet? "Hey, my name's Jackass McGee, and I'm terribly upset that Company X won't let me continue being a giant dickwad. What a controversy this amounts to! We should boycott their shenanigans!"

I had more fun typing out that sentence than it warrants. But in any case, my point stands: it would essentially be someone complaining about their own faults and trying to make it seem like someone else caused it. Lack of evidence proves nothing, alas. =/

[pilgrim* 3514]

57 minutes ago, Funkmaster Rick said:

Not finding a complaint doesn't prove anything, man. A lack of evidence only counts as evidence itself in books and movies. Honestly, think about this: if you're breaking the rules, get caught, get punished, are you really going to started complaining loudly about it all over the internet? "Hey, my name's Jackass McGee, and I'm terribly upset that Company X won't let me continue being a giant dickwad. What a controversy this amounts to! We should boycott their shenanigans!"

I had more fun typing out that sentence than it warrants. But in any case, my point stands: it would essentially be someone complaining about their own faults and trying to make it seem like someone else caused it. Lack of evidence proves nothing, alas. =/

Sorry dude, but yours is a silly post. Do you know how the internet works at all? Are you new to the web?
Also - Look back at other threads on this subject.

And thirdly - Tell me HOW a GP sanctions a client for any actions INSIDE a game. Do they cut off his service without refund? Do they blacklist his credit card? (do you REALLY think that? ha-ha). Do they do it without proof, on the strength of an accusation? What proof do they accept, If I spam 100 fake complaints will they close a server? If I send in a genuine email complaining about one of their clients (and they don't know me from Dick) do they take action? HOW do they police actions INSIDE a game (like unfair kicking)? How do they verify complaints? Does BI police OR verify complaints? Is there someone in the GPs office at midnight on Saturday checking for fair play on ONE of the game-titles out of the 200 they sell?

Yeah, I know, you have no idea. You haven't taken the time to think it through, but you posted anyway.

In short don't be so DUMB dude (scuse me) Work it out. Read through the last 2 years of posts on the topic.  See what BI has said about this. See what the Game Providers say about this. Show me ONE example of anyone, anywhere, anytime, taking ANY action. Go find ONE. This is your mission if you choose to be adult and get off your ass go find the TRUTH and stop living in a dream. Here is the Real World.. Go LOOK at it.

I have done the research, I am an adult. I know the situation. I have set it out clearly. Then someone wanders past and says  "oh I don't think it can be really like that" without having the faintest idea what they are talking about. That's so cool it makes me laugh. 

Your loss people.

xx pilgrim

 

Edited February 28, 2016 by pilgrim / pilgrim
wow, this ignorance of truth is exasperating

[Funkmaster Rick 373]

7 minutes ago, pilgrim / pilgrim said:

Sorry dude, but yours is a silly post. Do you know how the internet works at all? Are you new to the web?
Also - Look back at other threads on this subject.

And thirdly - Tell me HOW a GP sanctions a client for any actions INSIDE a game. Do they cut off his service without refund? Do they blacklist his credit card? (do you REALLY think that? ha-ha). Do they do it without proof, on the strength of an accusation? What proof do they accept. If I spam 100 fake complaints will they close a server? If I send in a genuine email complaining about one of their clients (and they don't know me from Dick) do the take action? HOW do they police actions INSIDE a game? How do they verify complaints? Does BI police or verify complaints? Is there someone in the GPs office at midnight on Saturday checking for fair play on ONE game out of the 200 they sell?

Yeah, I know, you have no idea. You haven't taken the time to think it through, but you posted anyway.

In short don't be so DUMB dude (scuse me) Work it out. Read through the last 2 years of posts on the topic.  See what BI has said about this. See what the Game Providers say about this. Show me ONE example of anyone, anywhere, anytime, taking ANY action. Go find ONE. This is your mission if you choose to be adult and get off your ass go find the TRUTH and stop living in a dream. Here is the Real World.. Go LOOK at it.

I have done the research, I am an adult. I know exactly the situation. I have set it out clearly. Then someone wanders past and says  "oh I don't think it can be really like that" without having the faintest idea what they are talking about. That's so cool it makes me laugh. 

Your loss people.

xx pilgrim

 

 

 

With respect, none of what you said addresses the actual argument I made, the one where I essentially said you can't count a lack of evidence as proof. I'm afraid that's just plain bad logic.

I don't particularly care to look back on other threads on this subject since I wasn't part of those threads, had no hand in the arguments, and basically just don't recognize them as authoritative on the topic. Sorry mate, but the only arguments you're making are ad hominem. Wielding the tenuous presence of two years' worth of threads on this topic does not necessarily make you more informed, only more involved. If someone told me they knew all the ins and outs of dating because they'd read two years' worth of a Cosmo subscription, I would continue to reserve judgement.

As to your third point, it's chaff, man. I could probably come up with clever, well-considered answers to all those questions, but none of them are related the core argument I put forth, which is "A lack of evidence does not constitute proof."

As to implying I'm a wanderer gawking as I walk by, insisting "It can't possibly be that bad," that's not what I said, mate. I said that a lack of evidence does not constitute proof.

For the record, the statements "I am an adult," and "Your loss people," as used in your post appear to be highly contradictory. Just sayin', man.

[emuthreat 2837]

On 2/24/2016 at 6:28 AM, sneakydude said:

ok for murders to go? hehe /evil grins

Honest murderers; meaning players who use a single name consistently.

I'm looking at you, War Reporter.

[pilgrim* 3514]

14 hours ago, Funkmaster Rick said:

..//.. bad logic

.don't particularly care to look back on other threads on this subject 

just don't recognize

ad hominem.

the ins and outs of dating

Cosmo subscription

chaff, man

 lack of evidence

 gawking

lack of evidence

For the record, the statements "I am an adult," and "Your loss people,"  appear to be contradictory

10 hours ago, emuthreat said:

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I'm looking at you, War Reporter.

Keep sending in abuse reports to the GPs
- as Boneboys used to say when he moderated this forum.
And IMO send the same reports up to BI too.

I am convinced BI are NOT going to act on this; they don't have the leverage or the agreements in place. They do not have any power in this area and the GPs are CERTAINLY not going to act. Look back at my analysis of the structure, funding and staffing of GPs to see why they do not enforce the "kicking" rule, and why it would be impossible for them to act even if the WANTED to (which strongly they do not).

The public hive server exploit makes scarcity and survival meaningless in DayZ for anyone who plays on public hive servers.
A large number of DayZ users play this way, taking advantage of the server exploit, because they CAN play this way.

BI have lost their control over the use of the public hive. It is being misused systematically and extensively. We all know this.

BI are in a hole about this and they don't want to talk about it.
Of course BI would have made a statement about the situation right here on this forum, if they intended to make a public statement at all.

 

xx War Reporter

 

 

Edited February 28, 2016 by pilgrim / pilgrim

[sneakydude 480]

Your wasting your time reporting this. No proof, they dont care, shrug it off as whatever.

I've sent in screen shots of clan members doing it that actually own 3 servers kicking on public. The screen shots didn't matter at all, the server was still active.

 

It will take only BI to intervene in the matter, until it becomes so bad after beta, release that private and or modded servers will be the only way to play the game. Which is ok.

[Mf_MrMike1981 1]

On 9/20/2015 at 4:02 PM, deevote said:

How exactly does this help me? Did you even read the post? I'm bringing attention to the player base that you CAN be kicked from a server and nothing will be done about it. I own a server, I'm pretty familiar with the server hosting rules and reporting page.

Not to be rude or support their kicking, but if you get kicked there are a lot of other servers to join. Why do you punish yourself like that? People are jerks, and Dayz is full of people ! ...well some of them are.

[sneakydude 480]

1 hour ago, Mf_MrMike1981 said:

Not to be rude or support their kicking, but if you get kicked there are a lot of other servers to join. Why do you punish yourself like that? People are jerks, and Dayz is full of people ! ...well some of them are.

No your not rude, let me explain something.

Join + kick = 2 minute wait (safe load)

Join + kick 2x = 5 minute wait (possible gear loss or death)

Join + kick 3x = 10 minute BS wait and we come to complain about vilayer in this forum.

Its very simple, but not all the vilayer servers are recognized by the IP.

False? nope had screenshots of these servers and was rejected, because they owned 3-4 servers is my best guess.

 

 

[Mf_MrMike1981 1]

Ya excessive kicking is lame, if they kick you and you rejoin they should not do it again.