What powers do admins have?

[Skelletton 6]

I know they were given access to log's for determining hacking and things, but how detailed are these?

I'm just asking, because i play on some private servers and I'm concerned about what these admins could know/abuse.

Thanks

[Baker. 1484]

I know they were given access to log's for determining hacking and things, but how detailed are these?

I'm just asking, because i play on some private servers and I'm concerned about what these admins could know/abuse.

Thanks

This reads like. "someone tell me if the admin can find out about my hacks plox!"

[xalienax 621]

This reads like. "someone tell me if the admin can find out about my hacks plox!"

actually i think the question is more about tools like the mods had (ability to see players, items, etc on the map, spectate in real time, etc.) which is a valid question.

 

as far as i know, Stand alone does not give server renters actual access to the server files and as such they cant use potentialy abusable 3rd party tools like InfiStar for the mods. They have the ability to kick, ban (on their server only), restart or shut down the server, and change some basic configuration like restart intervals

*someone please correct me if this has changed.

[nl 986]

"spectate in real time", can they?

[xalienax 621]

"spectate in real time", can they?

with some of the 3rd party tools used in the A2 mod they could. i don't believe this is possible in the SA tho.

[schwaBAM 200]

"spectate in real time", can they?

Not at this time, no.  On my server I have the option to:

 

Kick, ban, change motd, change time of day, and view logs.  Viewing logs just shows the typing between players and where someone shot/hit you and the damage done.

 

 

Colby(uid=xxx) SHOT Pokoinik(uid=xxx) by Mosin9130 into head."

13:57:34 | "Pokoinik(uid=xxx) STATUS S::15783.8 B::4500 H::4800 HP::0."

13:57:34 | Player "Pokoinik"(id=xxx) has been killed by player "Colby"(id=xxx)

 

In the future they should give admins more tools but for now it is limited.

[Weyland Yutani (DayZ) 1159]

I know they were given access to log's for determining hacking and things, but how detailed are these?

I'm just asking, because i play on some private servers and I'm concerned about what these admins could know/abuse.

Thanks

Logs show nothing related to hacks. If you're worried about admin abuse, maybe its time to find another server. I for one want more detailed information. Exploits like loot farming aren't policeable and they need to be.

 

Logs work like this.

• Player w/ID connected.
• Player w/ID disconnected.
• Player w/ID hit player.
• Player w/ID shot player.
• Player w/ID killed player.
• Player w/ID said ___.
• Player w/ID has fallen into unconsciousness.
• Player w/ID STARTS BLEEDING
• STATUS S::xxxx B::xxxx H::xxxx HP::x

Admins have very little tools to police a server.

[Baker. 1484]

Spectation is the only admin tool one needs. Kill logs, spectation that's it, i wish they added it.

[KandyCid 30]

Not at this time, no.  On my server I have the option to:

 

Kick, ban, change motd, change time of day, and view logs.  Viewing logs just shows the typing between players and where someone shot/hit you and the damage done.

 

 

In the future they should give admins more tools but for now it is limited.

what a​Re you doing to that Horse in your profile picture? 

 

jk.

 

.but I think they have enough POWERS as admins, reading messages, restarting the server as they like, and knowing when and how sum1 was killed is enough for public admins​. ​

[FrigginTommyNoble 61]

Spectation is the only admin tool one needs. Kill logs, spectation that's it, i wish they added it.

 

I couldn't disagree more. Server administration needs to respect privacy, both inside this game and out. If admins could spy on connected players, it would be seriously abused. A clan admin could tell clan members where a player is, what he/she is doing, how geared they are, etc. And believe me, they would do it.

[Baker. 1484]

I couldn't disagree more. Server administration needs to respect privacy, both inside this game and out. If admins could spy on connected players, it would be seriously abused. A clan admin could tell clan members where a player is, what he/she is doing, how geared they are, etc. And believe me, they would do it.

Lol^. Go run a popular server and get back to me.

Edited September 20, 2015 by B@ker

[Skelletton 6]

actually i think the question is more about tools like the mods had (ability to see players, items, etc on the map, spectate in real time, etc.) which is a valid question.

 

as far as i know, Stand alone does not give server renters actual access to the server files and as such they cant use potentialy abusable 3rd party tools like InfiStar for the mods. They have the ability to kick, ban (on their server only), restart or shut down the server, and change some basic configuration like restart intervals

*someone please correct me if this has changed.

Thanks.

 

Not at this time, no.  On my server I have the option to:

 

Kick, ban, change motd, change time of day, and view logs.  Viewing logs just shows the typing between players and where someone shot/hit you and the damage done.

 

 

In the future they should give admins more tools but for now it is limited.

Thanks. Ah ok, so logs only show simple details nothing like "placed item in barrel @ x,y,z location". This was my main concern, as I'm not affiliated with the clans (some of which have admins) on this private server i just joined. As I am fairly new to Dayz (~2 weeks), I had never played the mod previously.

 

Logs show nothing related to hacks. If you're worried about admin abuse, maybe its time to find another server. I for one want more detailed information. Exploits like loot farming aren't policeable and they need to be.

 

Logs work like this.

• Player w/ID connected.
• Player w/ID disconnected.
• Player w/ID hit player.
• Player w/ID shot player.
• Player w/ID killed player.
• Player w/ID said ___.
• Player w/ID has fallen into unconsciousness.
• Player w/ID STARTS BLEEDING
• STATUS S::xxxx B::xxxx H::xxxx HP::x

Admins have very little tools to police a server.

Thank you, your answer was very detailed. There are clans on my server who either fight @ NWAB or "no kos" with each other at the officers tents just to perform the loot cycling bug. I like to attack/troll them while the server pop is low. :) But i'm a little concerned by retribution.

[schwaBAM 200]

what a​Re you doing to that Horse in your profile picture? 

 

jk.

 

.but I think they have enough POWERS as admins, reading messages, restarting the server as they like, and knowing when and how sum1 was killed is enough for public admins​. ​

It's a pig, and I'm keesing it.

[FrigginTommyNoble 61]

Lol^. Go run a popular server and get back to me.

 

I'm sure I'm ignorant compared with your experience, would you mind explaining what you mean? I assume you're saying it's fruitless to "spy" on people when there are 42 of them connected and playing on your server.. which, now that I think about it, does make sense :)

Edited September 20, 2015 by FrigginTommyNoble

[Baker. 1484]

I'm sure I'm ignorant compared with your experience, would you mind explaining what you mean? I assume you're saying it's fruitless to "spy" on people when there are 42 of them connected and playing on your server.. which, now that I think about it, does make sense :)

You can see them hacking before the logs tell you. A real admin shouldn't be playing anyways he should be admining

[xalienax 621]

You can see them hacking before the logs tell you. A real admin shouldn't be playing anyways he should be admining

agree 100% 

sadly for every admin that would use spectate/view inventory/etc to catch cheaters/hackers/dupers theres probably 5 kiddies who are rentining with daddys credit card and would use it to tell thier clan-mates what your doing/where you are/what you have. ultimately i really don't care if this comes to PRIVATE servers- especially once modding and all is in. tbh i think it'd be a great tool for private communities to enforce thier rules (such as RP communities) but it should never be allowed on anything connected to the hive.

 

when it comes to private servers vote with your wallet and your patronage.

if you feel the admins/owners of a private server are playing unfair don't play there, warn your friends, and don't donate. soon the clan that owns it will have no one to shoot, no one to grief. and no money to maintain it.

[Baker. 1484]

 ultimately i really don't care if this comes to PRIVATE servers-

these are going to be the only servers worth playing on anyways

[xalienax 621]

these are going to be the only servers worth playing on anyways

true, but i believe in private servers being 'Our sand box, our rules. follow them or GTFO', and those servers should have the means to create and enforce the sort of environment they want to share with like-minded players.

 

official servers on the other hand, should be severely limited in customization options and admin powers to prevent clans using rented servers as a way to 'loot up in relative saftey'. believe me this WOULD happen.