Server Hoppers Plus A Video On Peaches.

[hekp 223]

I would never judge your doing on private server. Where you decide to log out is completely up to you. Most of private servers get some nice pvp right after restart due to people trying to hit mil objects first :D I can't really complain, its all fair ground to me. We all know it's gonna go down.

 

 

I play on private servers, not because its gets rid of the server hoppers, but its a nice side effect because I don't have 5 people spawning in behind me when I hit a military base and 50 people haven't looted it already.

 

Same, ill stick to private servers. Even if you dont get there first, you often get a little something. It's not like 50+ people just hopped the NWEAF due to restart.

I find no point in playing publics, unless you like long two hour walks just so you get to admire all the empty mil. objects before another hopper pops you from behind.

Hell even if i dont get anything on a private, i know someone at least had to walk here just like me, not on some 1/50 server before he hopped.

 

This was really breaking the experience for me and i almost gave up & joined the dark side because yknow.. who likes walking for hrs and hrs for absolutely nothing.

 

And not just NWEAF tbh, most of police stations from severo to gorka, svetlo and dolina are always looted, like there's an organised hopping group that does nothing but that.

And by police stations i really mean police stations only. I had games where id spawn in berezino; police station was completely empty whilst the log house 5m away had two protectors cases and the next L couch house had two PU scopes whilst corner house got me a mosin with clips and ammo. Its clear as a nite same people are hopping same room over and over and over.

 

It doesnt matter if its a full, medium size or 5 people server, i feel like finding gold when i see a police station or a mil object that is not looted.

I have no problem getting geared in 10 minutes, but i see no point playing pubs if the civilian gear is pretty much the end game gear for me, unless i wanna join the hopping train. And it's not like im a mil grade sucker, i just dont like being limited due to some players who play it the cheap way. Having a RL outside the game is no excuse either. We all have our RL outside the game. ( more or less :P )

 

Yeah, no thanks publics. Privates ftw.

 

It would be awesome to prevent players to pick up anything in radius of 1000m for x minutes, if they reconect to another public server in under x minutes of gameplay on previous.

I guess it wouldnt work 'cause of random client/server crashes which would result in people crying for getting the injust hopper treatment.

Edited February 28, 2015 by halp

[IgnobleBasterd 161]

I do it for one reason. i have a job, 2 kids and a wife. if i can get geared up in 1 hour instead of a whole night then so be it, only got limited playing time. besides if i find a friendly chap il help him out. why just the other day in elektro i bumped into a fresh spawn, gave him a ak-74u and some ammo i had for it. unfortunately i had no mags.

any way once i have a gun and a mag thats it for me, i play on a full server and no jumping until the inevitable bitter ending

I have a feeling that perhaps many players are very young and/or jobless, thus having a lot of spare time.

[hekp 223]

Your just really impatient and want everything right now this second. That's no excuse.

 

Why dont you just sub to cheats & dup your gear in 1st second. It will be even faster for you and you will always win.

 

Yknow... because you have a job. Or something.

Edited February 28, 2015 by halp

[danfinger (DayZ) 14]

That's a whole different question. You play games for fun. Taking your example to the extreme, you would then just want a button called "I win" - I mean why bother playing the game when you can skip right to the end?

 

Exactly right. I play for fun. I wouldn't find a 'I win' button fun. Since Dayz doesn't really have an end per se, your extreme lacks relevance. 

 

 

.. who likes walking for hrs and hrs for absolutely nothing.

 

 

If I'm lucky I get about an hour of gameplay every other day. Most of the time is spent getting all of my home made leather goods going. I'll travel from one base to another while hunting. I get to my destination, loot the barracks etc. and log out. If time permits (it usually doesn't) I'll hit another server, loot the same barracks and go hunting to the next base, loot and log out. Next time I play I loot the same barracks and  hunt during my journey to the next MB. Rinse repeat. 

 

It's not like I just sit there at the barracks and go from server to server for hours on end. But I will hit the same barracks at least once on a different server before I go back into the bush. 

 

If I were better at shooting arrows I'd probably ditch the MBs altogether. But they are where I get ammo mostly. 

 

This game affords different play styles. I don't get why people get their panties in sucha twist over hoppers. 

[Jex 1104]

Exactly right. I play for fun. I wouldn't find a 'I win' button fun. Since Dayz doesn't really have an end per se, your extreme lacks relevance. 

 

 

Or you lack the critical faculties to get the point ;)

 

 

The I win button in DayZ would be instantly gearing up and having food whenever u hit it. There are plenty of people who would take that option too (actually they paid for it in the mods) but they aren't playing the game.

[danfinger (DayZ) 14]

Or you lack the critical faculties to get the point ;)

 

 

The I win button in DayZ would be instantly gearing up and having food whenever u hit it. There are plenty of people who would take that option too (actually they paid for it in the mods) but they aren't playing the game.

 

Oh, that must be just horrible for you. You have my deepest sympathies for your tragic loss of uh, ... something. 

 

Just so I can have a more accurate mental picture, please tell me, are they the frilly kind or the satin kind? 

[Jex 1104]

Oh, that must be just horrible for you. You have my deepest sympathies for your tragic loss of uh, ... something. 

 

Just so I can have a more accurate mental picture, please tell me, are they the frilly kind or the satin kind? 

 

OK creepy pervert vibe aside, would you care to argue how they would be playing the game using an I win button?

[Downydan (DayZ) 41]

I love watching all of the server hoppers load in at Vybor Mil Base. The BMP on the west, the hill to south, the Jail, the BMP on the inside.

 

It is fun to hunt down the server hoppers and kill them. Even better when they attempt to combat log.

[Caboose187 (DayZ) 3036]

Switching servers should start you randomly along the coast, with everything you've acquired of course.

[danfinger (DayZ) 14]

OK creepy pervert vibe aside, would you care to argue how they would be playing the game using an I win button?

 

Until I see an 'I win' button, any argument that extreme is pointless.

 

Some folks have fun server hopping, some don't. If you don't, then unwedge the pink lace fringed low-rise polkadot thong from betwixt your cheeks and don't hop. Seems the easiest solution. 

[yazar8 584]

Considering abusing server owners loot cycling / loot farming restarts / kicking / kicking and killing players. And when the central loot economy is not ready yet persistence is not fully functional. I can't blame server hoppers for what they do.

 

Also, if you read the central loot economy article said by Dean Hall, you'll see that he himself aims to courage server hopping as soon as the central loot economy is implemented.

 

The devs want server hopping. Otherwise they would put up a longer timer. And there would not be a public hive then. Also, server hoppers should exist since that makes a point of camping at military bases.

 

Have fun at Chernarus folks!

 

 

 

And not just NWEAF tbh, most of police stations from severo to gorka, svetlo and dolina are always looted, like there's an organised hopping group that does nothing but that.

And by police stations i really mean police stations only. I had games where id spawn in berezino; police station was completely empty whilst the log house 5m away had two protectors cases and the next L couch house had two PU scopes whilst corner house got me a mosin with clips and ammo. Its clear as a nite same people are hopping same room over and over and over.

 

 

Interesting, I think the answer for this is clearly the majority of the players are actually at those areas while the north is always clear. I don't server hop unless I really really need to do so. About finding chopper crashes -- this is a method everybody does, complete your route (or find all 3 crash sites) then re-start your route. The routine is like this till you find your item you're looking for.

 

I don't server hop unless I really really need to find something quick and fast.

 

Also server hopping increases your chances of getting killed, because if you stick to one server, you can track down the player count and know who was where, where could be safe etc. 

Edited March 4, 2015 by Yazar8

[danfinger (DayZ) 14]

 

Also, if you read the central loot economy article said by Dean Hall, you'll see that he himself aims to courage server hopping as soon as the central loot economy is implemented.

 

LOL. A Dayz dev who aims to encourage server hopping. 

 

Hey Jexter! Look who's not playing the game right now! HAHHHAHAERRRRR. Oh Gord that's rich.

[yazar8 584]

LOL. A Dayz dev who aims to encourage server hopping. 

 

Hey Jexter! Look who's not playing the game right now! HAHHHAHAERRRRR. Oh Gord that's rich.

Not just Dean, Hicks and even Eugen do aswell. If they didn't support the idea they would not decide to implement this.

[Jex 1104]

Until I see an 'I win' button, any argument that extreme is pointless.

 

Some folks have fun server hopping, some don't. If you don't, then unwedge the pink lace fringed low-rise polkadot thong from betwixt your cheeks and don't hop. Seems the easiest solution. 

 

Except we're talking about an I Win button - so if you're not then what's your point?

[Jex 1104]

LOL. A Dayz dev who aims to encourage server hopping. 

 

Hey Jexter! Look who's not playing the game right now! HAHHHAHAERRRRR. Oh Gord that's rich.

 

Just because you think you know what you're talking doesn't make it so. Try going back a few pages for the point ;)

 

Not just Dean, Hicks and even Eugen do aswell. If they didn't support the idea they would not decide to implement this.

 

And you can cite your source for this?

[S3V3N 1402]

Most of all I like to find bugs, submit them so we can have a polished finished game soon. With loads of cool items, and 10000 players on a server, all killing each other.

You know that is never going to happen, right? We can be lucky if we get a hundred people on a server. It's not an MMO this. Dayz doesn't have some massive server setup, as MMO's do. As for the bugs, good luck with that! I am still seing bugs in the game that were already in Arma II. And that worries me. The old mod is actually a lot more stable and less laggy than the standalone.

 

About the server hopping - I really hate it! You can secure an area all you want, if some asshole pops up behind you in a bush, equipped with all the military loot. Server hopping rewards the people, who can't play the game properly. Those who can't shoot and win without cheating.

 

Can't the Dayz Dev team tag items from one server? Meaning, if you jump servers, all the gear you looted on one will be ruined by the time you get on the next server. This could be controlled by player positions as well. If someone just sits in a cell in Prison Island and hops from server to server, the server should read his location and ruin his loot. I admit it is not perfect, because often enough we are forced to switch servers, because ours doesn't restart or crashed. It could also be done so that whenever you connect to a new server within a certain time limit (e.g. 15 mins), you get a penalty for picking up items (5, 20, 40 minutes). Each time you jump a server you'd have to wait longer until you are able to pick something up. 

[yazar8 584]

Just because you think you know what you're talking doesn't make it so. Try going back a few pages for the point ;)

And you can cite your source for this?

http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/184748-dean-hall-encourages-server-hopping-at-egx-rezzed/

Get to it, It's a part of the game.

Well yeah, the "cleaning all loot spawns" part indeed is not a part of the game ofc.

Edited March 5, 2015 by Yazar8

[Jex 1104]

http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/184748-dean-hall-encourages-server-hopping-at-egx-rezzed/

Get to it, It's a part of the game.

Well yeah, the "cleaning all loot spawns" part indeed is not a part of the game ofc.

 

Oh yes I remember that now. What he didn't say was server hopping from one military loot spawn to the next - he meant, obviously, heading to other servers to "search" for other parts (which is idiotic to begin with) which could be on any of the 5000 servers that are up - yeah, good luck with that.

 

What he didn't mean was be a complete dick and just bounce from one server to the other looking for Gunz and it was quite obvious where he was going in his explanation for rare gear and did not mean server hopping in the slightest.

[danfinger (DayZ) 14]

Except we're talking about an I Win button - so if you're not then what's your point?

No, you are talking about an 'I win' button. I never brought it up:

 

That's a whole different question. You play games for fun. Taking your example to the extreme, you would then just want a button called "I win" - I mean why bother playing the game when you can skip right to the end?

 

 

Or you lack the critical faculties to get the point ;)

 

 

The I win button in DayZ would be instantly gearing up and having food whenever u hit it. There are plenty of people who would take that option too (actually they paid for it in the mods) but they aren't playing the game.

 

 

...would you care to argue how they would be playing the game using an I win button?

 

I'm no more inclined to argue YOUR 'I win' button than I would be arguing over who would win in a fist-fight Jesus or Santa Claus? Neither exists so the argument is really just pointless.

 

And dangit! OP said there would be peaches! All I see is people with their knickers all twisted up.

Edited March 5, 2015 by danfinger

[Caboose187 (DayZ) 3036]

Server hoppers are like those guys I see sitting on street corners begging for handouts.

[Jex 1104]

No, you are talking about an 'I win' button. I never brought it up:

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm no more inclined to argue YOUR 'I win' button than I would be arguing over who would win in a fist-fight Jesus or Santa Claus? Neither exists so the argument is really just pointless.

 

And dangit! OP said there would be peaches! All I see is people with their knickers all twisted up.

 

 

Yes that's right I said that to make a point are you now saying this point you just got or is news to you? I know what I wrote - what I don't get is your seemingly lack of knowledge about it even after you quoted where I said it which was a conversation I was having with you!

Edited March 6, 2015 by Jexter

[Finchtastic 50]

So I wanted to see just how many of you guys serve hop... and for you to justify it. (if this is in the wrong place please move it mods, thanks, im new here)

I understand the allure of constantly server hopping, however I  much prefer to test myself and refrain from doing so. Ill always kill on sight if I know they are server hopping to pick up loot and avoid combat.

I died at the new prison island due to a couple of russian server hoppers getting the jump on me.

I overheard a couple more server hoppers who logged in as i died.

 

My justification is that the devs make different pieces of a single item spawn across multiple servers.  The devs pretty much want you to server hop, by implementation of this horrid loot system.  Not my fault, their fault.  Ask them.