lauri7x3 100 Posted December 27, 2014 broken bones lasts for one hour? super realistic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Karmaterror 982 Posted December 27, 2014 would love this mode for those of us who prefer to play this way. No worries about food and drink etc. And in addition death don't mean you lose loot HOWEVER it means the other person can get your loot from you like a copy basically. And leave current hardcore mode for those who enjoy it as is, no one loses and everybody wins. Dosent this kind of rob dayz of the very things that define the experience? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scriptfactory 620 Posted December 28, 2014 Dosent this kind of rob dayz of the very things that define the experience? There are a LOT of people that just want to roleplay. I think it is boring as fuck but I play on two RP private shards filled with people that just want to hang out with each other and pretend they are in the apocalypse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brzator47@gmail.com 524 Posted December 28, 2014 So basically a deathmatch with legit duping methods built in. Sounds amazing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scriptfactory 620 Posted December 28, 2014 So basically a deathmatch with legit duping methods built in. Sounds amazing. I'm not sure why people are slamming the idea. It is basically like every other shooter on the market except you have to find your loadout. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cobaas@live.ie 62 Posted December 28, 2014 I'm not sure why people are slamming the idea. It is basically like every other shooter on the market except you have to find your loadout.Its far from every other shooter.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scriptfactory 620 Posted December 28, 2014 Its far from every other shooter.... I meant the idea of respawning with your previous loadout. It would be like an open-world Battlefield. This is actually something I have been hoping DICE would make for a while.Once the performance/lag/desync problems are fixed a separate game mode like this could actually be quite fun. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cobaas@live.ie 62 Posted December 28, 2014 I meant the idea of respawning with your previous loadout. It would be like an open-world Battlefield. This is actually something I have been hoping DICE would make for a while.Once the performance/lag/desync problems are fixed a separate game mode like this could actually be quite fun.Well if it goes anyway like the mod did (which IMO i hope it doesn't) there will be plenty of servers that let you spawn with high powered rifles and ammo - if servers were if you donate then you spawn with your preferred loadout - i actually like looting and trying to make do with the few rounds i can find - getting decent with the bow and arrow now too! But if that's what you're looking for then when and if it gets to be modded by the community then Epoch and Overpoch servers will let you do just that! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scriptfactory 620 Posted December 28, 2014 Well if it goes anyway like the mod did (which IMO i hope it doesn't) there will be plenty of servers that let you spawn with high powered rifles and ammo - if servers were if you donate then you spawn with your preferred loadout - i actually like looting and trying to make do with the few rounds i can find - getting decent with the bow and arrow now too! But if that's what you're looking for then when and if it gets to be modded by the community then Epoch and Overpoch servers will let you do just that! I understand your concerns, to be quite honest. After playing the standard game for a while people naturally get bored of being forced to get gear so they can PvP again. I believe that this is why the vast majority of player gravitate towards "1000+ VEHICLES" servers.This is slightly off-topic but, if something isn't done to make the basic/vanilla game more enticing it will die after modding/mission support is added. People don't seem to like hardcore survival where hours/days/months of investment can be lost to a single hacker, sniper or bug. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Warhoax 63 Posted December 28, 2014 I understand your concerns, to be quite honest. After playing the standard game for a while people naturally get bored of being forced to get gear so they can PvP again. I believe that this is why the vast majority of player gravitate towards "1000+ VEHICLES" servers.This is slightly off-topic but, if something isn't done to make the basic/vanilla game more enticing it will die after modding/mission support is added. People don't seem to like hardcore survival where hours/days/months of investment can be lost to a single hacker, sniper or bug. You are wrong, a lot of us do like that hardcore. The minority who doesn't are just complaining about it like little kids.For me such a mode, I wouldn't mind it. As I'd hope it would draw the attention of the COD kids and other KOS'ers that are currently playing this game.Making the hardcore experience better. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scriptfactory 620 Posted December 28, 2014 (edited) You are wrong, a lot of us do like that hardcore. The minority who doesn't are just complaining about it like little kids.For me such a mode, I wouldn't mind it. As I'd hope it would draw the attention of the COD kids and other KOS'ers that are currently playing this game.Making the hardcore experience better. While there are many people that enjoy a hardcore experience I do remember DayZero mod. It was a great, extremely hardcore experience. It died and Epoch 1000+ vehicle servers reigned supreme. I believe that the hardcore crowd are the vocal minority, to be quite honest. I'm just looking at the evidence and making generalizations. :) Edited December 28, 2014 by scriptfactory 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brzator47@gmail.com 524 Posted December 28, 2014 I'm not sure why people are slamming the idea. It is basically like every other shooter on the market There's your answer. If it does everything other "shooters" do, just worse, what exactly would the point of that be? Bohemia already have a game where you can play exactly that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scriptfactory 620 Posted December 28, 2014 (edited) There's your answer. If it does everything other "shooters" do, just worse, what exactly would the point of that be? Bohemia already have a game where you can play exactly that. Because there is no open-world post-apocalyptic survival shooter with respawn mechanics yet? Choice isn't a bad thing. Edited December 28, 2014 by scriptfactory Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brzator47@gmail.com 524 Posted December 28, 2014 What does a survival shooter with respawn mechanics even mean? Choice isn't a bad thing.Yes it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scriptfactory 620 Posted December 28, 2014 What does a survival shooter with respawn mechanics even mean? The OPs suggestion. Yes it is. Why? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cobaas@live.ie 62 Posted December 28, 2014 While there are many people that enjoy a hardcore experience I do remember DayZero mod. It was a great, extremely hardcore experience. It died and Epoch 1000+ vehicle servers reigned supreme. I believe that the hardcore crowd are the vocal minority, to be quite honest. I'm just looking at the evidence and making generalizations. :)Man i remember DayZero! That was so hard, loved every second of it! had to crawl through the long grass to get to the airfield while another group was fighting beside me, i didnt have the ammo to fight so i layed low and made it through haha - absoultely beautiful map too - Podagorsk I think it was? :D 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brzator47@gmail.com 524 Posted December 28, 2014 The OPs suggestion. Why?Because this is standalone game now and the devs have at least some idea what direction they want to take it. Adding anything and everything players would possibly like would not only take the game nowhere but there would be no difference compared to an ARMA mod making it essentially pointless. I'm not sure why we're still even talking about this as it is obviously not going to happen. Then again, I thought it would be obvious to anyone why is this the worst suggestion ever but there you go. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cobaas@live.ie 62 Posted December 28, 2014 You are wrong, a lot of us do like that hardcore. The minority who doesn't are just complaining about it like little kids.For me such a mode, I wouldn't mind it. As I'd hope it would draw the attention of the COD kids and other KOS'ers that are currently playing this game.Making the hardcore experience better.That is an interesting point - if an 'Easy' Mode was around - it would slow down the KoSer's - DayZero was probably the most difficult mod to survive in and it was amazing! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scriptfactory 620 Posted December 28, 2014 Because this is standalone game now and the devs have at least some idea what direction they want to take it. Adding anything and everything players would possibly like would not only take the game nowhere but there would be no difference compared to an ARMA mod making it essentially pointless. I'm not sure why we're still even talking about this as it is obviously not going to happen. You counter-arguments are extremely weak.The fact that this is a standalone game has nothing to do with adding more choices for server owners, especially on private shards.No one is arguing that everything players want should be added. If this were the case and the devs were adding everything you would have a valid point, but they are not. This has nothing to do with adding more variation to the standard game.The fact that this would bring DayZ SA closer to an Arma mod is also not a legitimate argument. This would not make SA pointless, in fact, it would probably take many players away from the A3 mods and increase the playerbase. This is not something negative. I know it won't happen. Hicks posted about this several times. But I can still voice my opinion about it. I love a hardcore game style but many people don't. This does not mean adding more variety to the game is a bad thing.I am really interested in knowing if you have a valid, objective reason for restricting gameplay choices in SA besides the fact that you want it that way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scriptfactory 620 Posted December 28, 2014 That is an interesting point - if an 'Easy' Mode was around - it would slow down the KoSer's - DayZero was probably the most difficult mod to survive in and it was amazing! This is kinda' what I was hoping for. All of these CoD deathmatchers would retreat to the "easy-mode" and leave the hardcore mode for more serious players. To me it is a win-win but perhaps there are very good reasons for why this shouldn't be done. I haven't heard any, though. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cobaas@live.ie 62 Posted December 28, 2014 (edited) This is kinda' what I was hoping for. All of these CoD deathmatchers would retreat to the "easy-mode" and leave the hardcore mode for more serious players. To me it is a win-win but perhaps there are very good reasons for why this shouldn't be done. I haven't heard any, though.Well, on the one had it would make all the deathmatchers leave - but on the other hand it does market the game for that mode at the same time - thus getting more of those player's into the playerbase On top of that, it also defeats the purpose of what the game is about - its supposed to be a zombie apocalypse - a world where supplies are limited and the people left are trying to survive - hopefully when the game is finsihed the environment will be a lot more malicious and harder to survive - and ammo shouldn't be nearly as plentiful as it is, then we will have a better game more suited for what it is trying to define - but until that happens KoS will always be there, it is needed - just not to the extent of 90% of all encounters Edited December 28, 2014 by Cobaas Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brzator47@gmail.com 524 Posted December 28, 2014 I am really interested in knowing if you have a valid, objective reason for restricting gameplay choices in SA besides the fact that you want it that way.Yes I do, see my previous posts. You might as well suggest jetpacks with unlimited fuel. It would add more variety to the game, might reduce KoS and make it more fun for players who want to play that way. It would still be the worst suggestion ever though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sachad 1016 Posted December 28, 2014 This is kinda' what I was hoping for. All of these CoD deathmatchers would retreat to the "easy-mode" and leave the hardcore mode for more serious players. To me it is a win-win but perhaps there are very good reasons for why this shouldn't be done. I haven't heard any, though. Because what you're suggesting is not survival, it's a tactical shooter. Go play a tactical shooter. We're playing a survival game here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blitzz92 7 Posted December 28, 2014 The military loot will be lowered massively when the game will be released. And this is not CoD and not BF4. I's not a game where your goal is to shoot other people. Your goal is to survive. And that means you have to get food and water. You have to get warm or cool yourself. You have to treat your injuries and diseases and so on. Shooting people is just a one small aspect of the game which is not the main. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker. 1484 Posted December 28, 2014 jetpacks with unlimited fuel Would toats play Share this post Link to post Share on other sites