Same FPS with OC'd GTX 970 as GTX 670

[Borges (DayZ) 40]

I'm getting practically the same FPS in towns as I was getting with the gtx 670, same settings. Is this optimization issues? It's not my card because it excels in every other game but this one. What the hell? 

Edited October 8, 2014 by Borges

[Dreypa 98]

My 780Ti gives me same performance as my 760. Poor optimization

[foxdie_01 121]

CPU limited?

[Dreypa 98]

CPU limited?

 

i7-4770k

[nl 986]

Since DAYZ SA is CPU heavy it is not so strange that you have the same FPS with the new video card since the CPU is still the same.

[boneboys 7988]

This game runs very well on older GPU's, a GTX460 for example.

Clientside optimisation will come at a later date.

[KrackProphet 28]

This game will run on a potato (I used to use one!) Optimization is in a poor state atm. Alpha = add as much content as possible. I'm guessing client side optimization will hit hard right before/after beta. 

[harteman 155]

Like almost everyone else, you are probably cpu-limited.  You can fiddle with config files if you want to increase your fps, or wait for optimizations.

[St. Jimmy 1631]

You can't get any better fps at this point with upgrading especially with GPU upgrade.

[t1337dude 101]

Here's a trick: turn up your settings until the game's FPS starts to decrease slightly. That way, the game will at least look better. Have everything maxed ingame? Turn off the ingame AA solution and start using dynamic super resolution on your GTX 970 instead. I upgraded my 670 and also put a GTX 980, nice zippy SSD and 16gb of RAM in my PC, DayZ runs a lot better, even with my settings turned up a lot higher than they used to be. For example, I used to run the game at 1200P with AA on low and ambient occlusion off. Now I run the game at 1697P (or whatever 2x 1200P is), with low AA and SMAA and ambient occlusion on. Game looks uber sharp, smooth, and runs the same as it used to.

Edited October 8, 2014 by t1337Dude

[Count_Grishnackh 65]

Optimisation in this game is pretty much non-existent...

But then again... ALPHA

 

Its weird how I can reply to all the "troubleshooting" threads with one word huh?

Im kinda feel like im being indoctrinated into this whole alpha thing :P

Edited October 8, 2014 by Count_Grishnackh

[Borges (DayZ) 40]

Here's a trick: turn up your settings until the game's FPS starts to decrease slightly. That way, the game will at least look better. Have everything maxed ingame? Turn off the ingame AA solution and start using dynamic super resolution on your GTX 970 instead. I upgraded my 670 and also put a GTX 980, nice zippy SSD and 16gb of RAM in my PC, DayZ runs a lot better, even with my settings turned up a lot higher than they used to be. For example, I used to run the game at 1200P with AA on low and ambient occlusion off. Now I run the game at 1697P (or whatever 2x 1200P is), with low AA and SMAA and ambient occlusion on. Game looks uber sharp, smooth, and runs the same as it used to.

 

 You can't max out this game yet without fps taking a shit, I have an i7 4790k and I still have to lower objects detail and shadows. Maxed out sits me at like 20-44 fps in towns, whereas very low objects and normal shadows sits me at like 60avg all around. I'm not really a fan of DSR, as I prefer highest fps possible over high resolutions. The fps hit with DSR just isn't worth it to me and the in game AA looks better than it being low with a high resolution. 

[Borges (DayZ) 40]

Optimisation in this game is pretty much non-existent...

But then again... ALPHA

 

Its weird how I can reply to all the "troubleshooting" threads with one word huh?

Im kinda feel like im being indoctrinated into this whole alpha thing :P

 

Someone should move this thread to troubleshooting. I agree with you though, not really worrying about game performance anymore in its current state.

[t1337dude 101]

 You can't max out this game yet without fps taking a shit, I have an i7 4790k and I still have to lower objects detail and shadows. Maxed out sits me at like 20-44 fps in towns, whereas very low objects and normal shadows sits me at like 60avg all around. I'm not really a fan of DSR, as I prefer highest fps possible over high resolutions. The fps hit with DSR just isn't worth it to me and the in game AA looks better than it being low with a high resolution. 

I get about 30 FPS in big cities no matter what settings I have (low or high). But I don't really spend the majority of my time in big cities. I usually focus on the average gameplay experience, not the minimum FPS. Of course it's preference but it looks hell of a lot better than turning the game's settings down or using an ingame AA solution.

 

When it comes down to it, I'm not turning down all my settings a huge amount just for a slight increase in playability in areas I don't spend the majority of my time in. :)

Edited October 8, 2014 by t1337Dude

[Irish. 4886]

I'm getting practically the same FPS in towns as I was getting with the gtx 670, same settings. Is this optimization issues? It's not my card because it excels in every other game but this one. What the hell? 

OC your CPU if you can.. some MB's allow the options in BIOS settings, some dont. For those that dont there are sometimes options using programs. Google how to OC your CPU, using the MB you have. If its possible, that is where you will see nice FPS improvements. Even an OC of .5ghz can bring really impressive visual improvements. But in the end, dayz is far from optimized so there is only so much you can expect. 

[terminal_boy 860]

CPU limited?

Ding-Ding, we have a winner!

 

The more in-game objects (items, zombies, players etc.) the CPU has track and process, the more load upon it. As this load builds, it reduces the system's ability to render frames.

 

Where are the most objects found? The cities.

[Borges (DayZ) 40]

OC your CPU if you can.. some MB's allow the options in BIOS settings, some dont. For those that dont there are sometimes options using programs. Google how to OC your CPU, using the MB you have. If its possible, that is where you will see nice FPS improvements. Even an OC of .5ghz can bring really impressive visual improvements. But in the end, dayz is far from optimized so there is only so much you can expect. 

It's OC'd to 4.6ghz with HT on, can go to 4.7 with HT off but I prefer it on as I've ran a lot of benches and noticed absolutely no difference in fps and performance, just about 20% less usage with it on.

 

DAYZ SA runs at 25% CPU usage, and 40% GPU usage.

 

Ding-Ding, we have a winner!

 

The more in-game objects (items, zombies, players etc.) the CPU has track and process, the more load upon it. As this load builds, it reduces the system's ability to render frames.

 

Where are the most objects found? The cities.

 

I understand but I get 25% cpu usage.

 

I get about 30 FPS in big cities no matter what settings I have (low or high). But I don't really spend the majority of my time in big cities. I usually focus on the average gameplay experience, not the minimum FPS. Of course it's preference but it looks hell of a lot better than turning the game's settings down or using an ingame AA solution.

 

When it comes down to it, I'm not turning down all my settings a huge amount just for a slight increase in playability in areas I don't spend the majority of my time in.

 

Oh man I just can't play 30 fps, especially in big cities when you sometimes have to act quick. Some people like high resolution screens with 40-60 fps in heavy areas, and some like that 100+ fps on max game settings at an acceptable resolution. However I turned DSR to 2x native and turned in game AA down to very low and was experiencing a large fps hit with jagged edges. It looked a bit sharper but when I went back to 1080 high/very high AA it looked much smoother but a little less sharp. I've always been the fps type.

 

It's clear that this game is just really unoptimized, so I might actually benefit from DSR in the future.

Edited October 9, 2014 by Borges

[ChainReactor 922]

I understand but I get 25% cpu usage.

 

You CPU usage is just an average value. The CPU itself is a closed system on it's own. Also afaik, DayZ doesn't support multiple cores yet. So when core 1 of your CPU is busy with calculating stuff or assigning memory for DayZ, the entire rest of your processor might be on standby and you will get a fairly low cpu usage. Simulations always tend to be CPU-heavy since simulation means much calculating. If a simulation doesnt use much of your CPU that means it isnt optimized to do so. Welcome to Alpha.

 

I can't tell you what you can do to improve your performance, but if you upgrade your graphics card and nothing changes, the graphics card wasn't the bottleneck.

 

You should however never upgrade your computer only to run an Alpha game better. Client side optimization is done in Beta.

[Borges (DayZ) 40]

Thank you for all the responses.

[RagedDrew 209]

As far as I understand it the game in it's current state is very depended on CPU, not GPU, so yeah the card wouldn't make a difference right now.

[t1337dude 101]

As far as I understand it the game in it's current state is very depended on CPU, not GPU, so yeah the card wouldn't make a difference right now.

If the game was mostly CPU dependent and bottlenecked, wouldn't we be able to turn up GPU-dependent settings without any significant hit to framerates? (Resolution, rendering quality options, MSAA, etc.?)

 

Anyone understand what I'm trying to say?

Edited October 9, 2014 by t1337Dude

[Borges (DayZ) 40]

If the game was mostly CPU dependent and bottlenecked, wouldn't we be able to turn up GPU-dependent settings without any significant hit to framerates? (Resolution, rendering quality options, MSAA, etc.?)

 

Anyone understand what I'm trying to say?

 

Yes, and you can with some settings. It explains why I get 40 fps in big cities with both a gtx 670 and 970.