More Spray Pain Color Options For Latter Please! :)

[nokyookami 63]

I agree with that but I feel like the devs either A. already have plans for those issues and can't implement them yet or B. Aren't worrying about those issues until dev is further along.

 

I also really agree that there should and will be more uses for paints.

 

>And People in an Apocolypse Survive Despite the Odds it isnt About Obsession But Many Factors

 

I think there we'll just have to agree to disagree. You spend even a month in a dayz environment without any basic survival skills your chances of living are very very slim. And I think (not sure) dayz is set longer than a month after the apocalypse.

 

Of course it's about obsession, who wants to die? When you start running low on water you will become obsessed with finding water, or die. If you find some water you're next priority will be food.

 

Sure there will be a few people hiding out but they will run out of food and water quite fast and have to start scavenging or they'll be raided by bandits.

 

>adding colour variants isn't something that breaks immersion.

 

No, it's the way people will use them that will break immersion. So give them valid uses.

Agreed Sorry for any Misswording i Meant its about More than Just obsession to Live Not that Wasnt any Obsession ^_^

But For Some Survival in Cities Making your Self Look "Friendly" rather than Skulking About in Camo  Can Provide Just as Much Chance to Survive Depending on your Enemy

Still think in Making Decision to Kill, Camo Probably Makes those who Are Making the Call Pull the Trigger Sometimes Were Color Would Perhaps Make a person Less threatening

or Also as another option I Like the Idea of Bandits and Hero's Alike Having Options for Team Colors Like gangs in Real Life then Perhaps Less Friendly Fire/Gunning down Survivors Caught in town during a Turf War

I think For Gang Colors is enough of a Use

Urban Survival is Just as Valid as Woodland Survival Not all People Rely on Forest in Game or in Real Life

While i Choose the Woods Am Sure that Many People Who Have only Seen Concrete Wont Be Running into the Forest as soon as an apocalypse strikes

Using your own Knowledge is a Key and Still see Colors Being efficiant For Urban Survival either Camo or Gang Identification :)

 

Edited October 6, 2014 by NokyoOkami

[agentstaple 29]

I think For Gang Colors is enough of a Use

Urban Survival is Just as Valid as Woodland Survival Not all People Rely on Forest in Game or in Real Life

While i Choose the Woods Am Sure that Many People Who Have only Seen Concrete Wont Be Running into the Forest as soon as an apocalypse strikes

Using your own Knowledge is a Key and Still see Colors Being efficient For Urban Survival either Camo or Gang Identification :)

 

I like the idea of using them for gang colours.

 

I hadn't really considered urban survival. Though even still, eventually where they are living will run out of food. They'll run out of water even faster. And they'd be under regular attack. Anyone who stays in a city still wont survive more than a few months without skills (raiding, pillaging and killing or hunting, scavenging and a way to get water). They are still focusing on survival, just different skills.

 

That's fair I suppose, if someone wants to paint them self in bright yellow and black stripes go ahead. But as soon as I see you in the forest you're dead ;)

[nokyookami 63]

I like the idea of using them for gang colours.

 

I hadn't really considered urban survival. Though even still, eventually where they are living will run out of food. They'll run out of water even faster. And they'd be under regular attack. Anyone who stays in a city still wont survive more than a few months without skills (raiding, pillaging and killing or hunting, scavenging and a way to get water). They are still focusing on survival, just different skills.

 

That's fair I suppose, if someone wants to paint them self in bright yellow and black stripes go ahead. But as soon as I see you in the forest you're dead ;)

lol Dressing in Engineer Stripes Definitely will Get you Killed they Are Made to Be Abrasive and Noticed xD

... Unless you Lay Prone on those Truck Docking Buildings Door Openings then you Disapear :o

Edited October 6, 2014 by NokyoOkami

[agentstaple 29]

lol Dressing in Engineer Stripes Definitely will Get you Killed they Are Made to Be Abrasive and Noticed xD

... Unless you Lay Prone on those Truck Docking Buildings Door Openings then you Disapear :o

HAHA! Just lay there completely still with a shotgun waiting for someone to walk by.

[Askelon 36]

I want to be able to kill someone in battle, and use their blood to paint my equipment as a trophy of my conquests.

 

I'm not crazy, I promise.

Edited October 7, 2014 by Askelon

[nokyookami 63]

I want to be able to kill someone in battle, and use their blood to paint my equipment as a trophy of my conquests.

 

I'm not crazy, I promise.

True, Blood was Used as the Binder in Many Old Paint Recipes

i Guess in an Apocalypse We Must go Back to old Methods Once Modern Paints Run out xD

Edited October 7, 2014 by NokyoOkami

[lelmat132 6]

With the addition of bright spray paint colours, it'd ruin the game. Majority of players would wear bright stuff due to the "Oh, it's just a game" mentality. Seriously, in real life it's more than likely that the any person you see will be dressed in either civilian clothes/equipment and/or military clothes/equipment. It's not like every second or third person, they'll be wearing a bright yellow helmet and a lime green dyed backpack. Only the insane or mentally retarded would wear really bright colours. Now, I'm not saying everyone would run around in military gear, I'm just saying that people will be wearing darker, less obvious coloured stuff, like a deep red instead of a bright red or something like that.

 

Again, there's also the thought that in-lore, Chernarus is not the wealthiest country and it would likely be expensive to ship in bright colours like bright yellow, cyan, pink, etc, and it would be fairly cheaper to get darker, duller colours such as olive, dark red, brown, dark blue, grey, etc.

 

If coloured spray paints were added, it would ruin the realistic experience the game is going for. If you ruin the experience, you might as well not implement some of the realistic ideas that other people are suggesting.

[Deathlove 2286]

I want to be able to kill someone in battle, and use their blood to paint my equipment as a trophy of my conquests.

 

I'm not crazy, I promise.

 

True, Blood was Used as the Binder in Many Old Paint Recipes

i Guess in an Apocalypse We Must go Back to old Methods Once Modern Paints Run out xD

 

 

Heres a good example for you guys.

 

 

In Star Wars for the Republic commando on the left his paint was literally the blood of enemies.

Edited October 7, 2014 by Deathlove

[Deathlove 2286]

With the addition of bright spray paint colours, it'd ruin the game. Majority of players would wear bright stuff due to the "Oh, it's just a game" mentality. Seriously, in real life it's more than likely that the any person you see will be dressed in either civilian clothes/equipment and/or military clothes/equipment. It's not like every second or third person, they'll be wearing a bright yellow helmet and a lime green dyed backpack. Only the insane or mentally retarded would wear really bright colours. Now, I'm not saying everyone would run around in military gear, I'm just saying that people will be wearing darker, less obvious coloured stuff, like a deep red instead of a bright red or something like that.

 

Again, there's also the thought that in-lore, Chernarus is not the wealthiest country and it would likely be expensive to ship in bright colours like bright yellow, cyan, pink, etc, and it would be fairly cheaper to get darker, duller colours such as olive, dark red, brown, dark blue, grey, etc.

 

If coloured spray paints were added, it would ruin the realistic experience the game is going for. If you ruin the experience, you might as well not implement some of the realistic ideas that other people are suggesting.

No just make the colors rare and that solves allot of the issues really. Gives something for ppl to hunt besides chopper crashes all day. And some of the normal none brighter versions of the colors could be rare as well.

[Askelon 36]

Heres a good example for you guys.

 

 

In Star Wars for the Republic commando on the left his paint was literally the blood of enemies.

Hah. Good old Republic Commando. Sev was awesome.

[Chaingunfighter 917]

With the addition of bright spray paint colours, it'd ruin the game. Majority of players would wear bright stuff due to the "Oh, it's just a game" mentality. Seriously, in real life it's more than likely that the any person you see will be dressed in either civilian clothes/equipment and/or military clothes/equipment. It's not like every second or third person, they'll be wearing a bright yellow helmet and a lime green dyed backpack. Only the insane or mentally retarded would wear really bright colours. Now, I'm not saying everyone would run around in military gear, I'm just saying that people will be wearing darker, less obvious coloured stuff, like a deep red instead of a bright red or something like that.

 

Again, there's also the thought that in-lore, Chernarus is not the wealthiest country and it would likely be expensive to ship in bright colours like bright yellow, cyan, pink, etc, and it would be fairly cheaper to get darker, duller colours such as olive, dark red, brown, dark blue, grey, etc.

 

If coloured spray paints were added, it would ruin the realistic experience the game is going for. If you ruin the experience, you might as well not implement some of the realistic ideas that other people are suggesting.

"OH NO! THAT GUY'S GOT A PINK MOSIN-NAGANT! MY GAME IS RUINEDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!"

 

That's how you're acting right now. 

 

In real life people would (almost) never eat rotten food, because you're more likely to get WORSE from eating it. However, it's in the game because it's realistic you'd find rotting food, and it MAY be useful to people in a pinch. Still, it's generally only used to troll and force feed people, and clearly only a few people would do that in a survival situation. Let's remove rotten food. In real life people would (almost) never use the child briefcase, because it's going to make you stick out. However, it's in the game because there were obviously children living in Chernarus at one point, and you can still store SOME items in it. Still, it's generally only worn by those trolling, and not a lot of people use it. Let's remove it from the game. I could go on with this. It's not at all unrealistic to suggest some spray paint cans (yes, even brightly colored ones) would be left around inside the various garages, stores, industrial areas, and houses in the region.

 

If coloured spray paints were added, it would ruin the realistic experience the game is going for. If you ruin the experience, you might as well not implement some of the realistic ideas that other people are suggesting.

 

First of all, who are YOU to dictate what the "realistic experience the game is going for" is? Don't act like you're speaking on the behalf of the developers. Second of all, "ruining the experience" and "adding realistic features" are two completely different things, even though it's wrong to begin with. That's akin to saying "Well, if the police are going to shoot a criminal who pulls a gun on them, then they might as well chop off his legs, too."

 

Even if they did add new spraypaint (which they almost certainly will with the new shaders), why would that stop them from implementing vehicles or other realistic features? I can guarantee there are already a million instances of people doing things they wouldn't do in a real survival situation, and there are a million more that come from features legitimately intended to add to the survival. People mindlessly deathmatching each other, fresh spawns & ungeared players charging geared ones because there's no loss, people wearing full military gear w/ a SMERSH vest, backpack, MASKA helmet, a Mosin on the back and kitted out M4A1 in the hands, and hundreds of rounds of ammunition among other supplies, suffering no drawbacks and running with the same speed and stamina as someone with nothing on, and plenty of other things.

People already do stupid things and will continue to do stupid things, and even items unintentional will become the victims as clever people find a way to use them.

 

Variety in colors will NOT ruin the game or degrade the experience. If anything, it'll add to it. (Plus, I'm not saying we need every single color under the rainbow, but having some drab pinks/purples and a few brighter colors would not kill anyone)

[gibonez 3633]

Why stop there let us spray paint everything with tons of colors so we can be all mlg.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRBhV1BcztU

[Chaingunfighter 917]

Why stop there let us spray paint everything with tons of colors so we can be all mlg.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRBhV1BcztU

 

Oh, come on. You're making a mountain out of a molehill,- spray painting is not detrimental to the game.

Plus, a lot of people have been asking for an expanded faction identification system for a while, and this is one of the better ways to do so without making a gamey "clan" feature or making some rule system. No one's suggested that we be able to spray paint every object in the game, but basic solid objects like guns and helmets are fine.

 

It isn't even unrealistic. In fact, YOU (gibonez) are a major advocate of realism, and somehow people painting a gun pink, blue, or whatever is so bothersome to some people that it "ruins the game".

[barnabus 1708]

I would love to be able to paint the MP-133 and AKM-101, can't do it right now but should be able to.  Splitting Axe and Shovel should be paintable also, anyone who ever stood an inspection with a vehicle knows that.
 
I love the pot leaf patch, in fact reminds me of an episode of That 70's Show and that we should definitely be able to tag,

 

 POT LEAVES ON EVERY WATER TOWER PROVINCE WIDE I SAY!!!

 

If I had a pink rifle I bet no one would steal it.

Edited October 10, 2014 by Barnabus

[hleVqq 139]

You have an odd definition of "realism".

It doesn't reduce realism. More the other way around: It improves realism by making the game less MilSim-y.

Can't agree with things that are plain wrong. Not having bright colored spraypaint and not being able to use it is what reduces realism. Because a zombie apocalypse is not a big deathmatch where everything resolves about survivors shooting each other.

Yeah and this point is bullshit. You want to sell your "thats how this game has to be played" under the guise of realism. There is nothing realistic about this only wild assumptions of "people would not use this in reality".

If the game gives you an option to use something that you wouldn't use in the same real life situation, then it's safe to conclude that it makes the game (which strives for realism) less realistic. By how much? Depends. Is it worth being added? Debatable. Is it important? No.

 

Basically it gives a disadvantage and would hardly be used if it wasn't a game.

[Evil Minion 943]

Don't tell people what they would do in a certain situation. Especially if you want to justify "make the game more MilSim" ("It gives you a disadvantage!") or "give players less options" ("Oh my god the trolls!") or "taylor it around my playstyle" ("Nobody would use it!").

 

It does not make the game less realistic - stop repeating this bullshit because thats just that - bullshit.

[gibonez 3633]

It isn't even unrealistic. In fact, YOU (gibonez) are a major advocate of realism, and somehow people painting a gun pink, blue, or whatever is so bothersome to some people that it "ruins the game".

 

In what realistic post apocalyptic scenario would you ever see starving survivors spray painting their guns and or clothing in hot pink or any other color for that matter.

 

Especially when doing so out in the field would more than likely harm the weapons reliability and or internals.

 

Sure its technically "realistic" to allow spray painting your weapons in neat patterns . However it makes zero sense a starving, dirty survivor would even waste the time doing such an action.

 

So yes while while realistic the likely hood of such a thing makes spray painting weapons and clothing a silly thing and detracts even more from  Dayz trying to be an authentic zombie survival game and in turn turning into open world pvp with paintable guns and kewl customization.

 

That is not to say there arent valid uses for spray paint in a post apocalyptic game playing gun dress up simply is not one.

[Chaingunfighter 917]

In what realistic post apocalyptic scenario would you ever see starving survivors spray painting their guns and or clothing in hot pink or any other color for that matter.

 

Especially when doing so out in the field would more than likely harm the weapons reliability and or internals.

 

Sure its technically "realistic" to allow spray painting your weapons in neat patterns . However it makes zero sense a starving, dirty survivor would even waste the time doing such an action.

 

So yes while while realistic the likely hood of such a thing makes spray painting weapons and clothing a silly thing and detracts even more from  Dayz trying to be an authentic zombie survival game and in turn turning into open world pvp with paintable guns and kewl customization.

 

That is not to say there arent valid uses for spray paint in a post apocalyptic game playing gun dress up simply is not one.

 

You love to say "dirty, starving survivors" - are you implying that in the end game when you're no longer struggling (as hard) people wouldn't start to make less than great decisions in order to "show off"?

 

Some weapons would be affected in reliability (and I wouldn't be opposed if spray painting your guns DID have this downside), but I doubt you'll have a noticeable difference in performance in guns like the AKM, Mosin, or SKS. I'm not at all against the idea of only being able to paint wooden guns & their respective attachments. In fact, it did irk me when I found out you could paint all of the M4 attachments. But typically spray-painting wood has no poor effect on a gun, unless you've done a terrible job, which it's wrong to assume our survivors would do.

 

There are a million things you can do in DayZ that people probably wouldn't do in real life as it stands. Should the game start arbitrarily limiting your actions simply because it's assumed that some people may not commit that particular action? I'm not asking they start adding MORE "out of line" features, but spray painting has been added to the game, so I'd rather see it expanded than wasted.

 

We've never been in a zombie apocalypse before (presumably), we have absolutely NO idea what people would do. Who's to say what would and what wouldn't happen when they haven't experienced it yet?

That's what makes DayZ interesting - YOU dictate your story, as the game is completely open world. No one tells you what you need to, or should do. Even if it's "out of the norm" among people with survival knowledge. I mean, is taking off your pants and running around in the middle of a city realistic? No. But you're never going to stop that from happening completely. It goes back to what I've said before.

 

 

To say that there's no reason to spray paint, or that it would never happen, is completely false. Blacks, browns, greens, grays, and other non-imposing colors would be extremely helpful for camouflage in the Chernarussian environment. That, and the idea that people would color guns and other objects in order to help with identification or signalling applies just as much here.

 

So let's not start basing decisions off of the idea that "NO ONE WOULD EVER DO THIS BECAUSE I SAID SO AND ITS NOT REALISTIC AND THAT IS THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS IN DAYZ EVER NOTHING ELSE" when it simply isn't true. The feature is in, they're working on new RVMats which allow for more colors, let's add more colors.

[gibonez 3633]

You love to say "dirty, starving survivors" - are you implying that in the end game when you're no longer struggling (as hard) people wouldn't start to make less than great decisions in order to "show off"?

 

Some weapons would be affected in reliability (and I wouldn't be opposed if spray painting your guns DID have this downside), but I doubt you'll have a noticeable difference in performance in guns like the AKM, Mosin, or SKS. I'm not at all against the idea of only being able to paint wooden guns & their respective attachments. In fact, it did irk me when I found out you could paint all of the M4 attachments. But typically spray-painting wood has no poor effect on a gun, unless you've done a terrible job, which it's wrong to assume our survivors would do.

 

There are a million things you can do in DayZ that people probably wouldn't do in real life as it stands. Should the game start arbitrarily limiting your actions simply because it's assumed that some people may not commit that particular action? I'm not asking they start adding MORE "out of line" features, but spray painting has been added to the game, so I'd rather see it expanded than wasted.

 

We've never been in a zombie apocalypse before (presumably), we have absolutely NO idea what people would do. Who's to say what would and what wouldn't happen when they haven't experienced it yet?

That's what makes DayZ interesting - YOU dictate your story, as the game is completely open world. No one tells you what you need to, or should do. Even if it's "out of the norm" among people with survival knowledge. I mean, is taking off your pants and running around in the middle of a city realistic? No. But you're never going to stop that from happening completely. It goes back to what I've said before.

 

 

To say that there's no reason to spray paint, or that it would never happen, is completely false. Blacks, browns, greens, grays, and other non-imposing colors would be extremely helpful for camouflage in the Chernarussian environment. That, and the idea that people would color guns and other objects in order to help with identification or signalling applies just as much here.

 

So let's not start basing decisions off of the idea that "NO ONE WOULD EVER DO THIS BECAUSE I SAID SO AND ITS NOT REALISTIC AND THAT IS THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS IN DAYZ EVER NOTHING ELSE" when it simply isn't true. The feature is in, they're working on new RVMats which allow for more colors, let's add more colors.

 

If they do add reliability issues to spray painted guns then by all means go nuts.

 

Also yes even an akm will have problems with reliability if you spray paint it incorrectly it would function like an adhesive on the internals and any areas that get permeated by the paint.

 

Overall yes though if they add negative reasons factors towards spray painting guns and clothing then by all means let the spray painting begin.

[Askelon 36]

If they do add reliability issues to spray painted guns then by all means go nuts.

 

Also yes even an akm will have problems with reliability if you spray paint it incorrectly it would function like an adhesive on the internals and any areas that get permeated by the paint.

 

Overall yes though if they add negative reasons factors towards spray painting guns and clothing then by all means let the spray painting begin.

Does it matter? Adding new colors should not be dependent on whether or not it has a downside. The primary point against the addition of new colors is "realism", which in of itself is a ridiculous argument to make, as why shouldn't we allow people to spray paint their gear any color? Not allowing it would be less realistic, as for some reason the only two colors we can find out there are black and green, when realistically there would be other colors. The fact that it makes you stand out doesn't matter. As I have already said, there are times where you WANT to stand out as not to be shot by your comrades on accident.

 

Although having ALL spray paint colors have negative effects on weapons would be cool, it shouldn't be a requirement for new colors to be added.

[General Zod 1118]

If they do add reliability issues to spray painted guns then by all means go nuts.

 

Also yes even an akm will have problems with reliability if you spray paint it incorrectly it would function like an adhesive on the internals and any areas that get permeated by the paint.

 

Overall yes though if they add negative reasons factors towards spray painting guns and clothing then by all means let the spray painting begin.

Seriously ? Spray paint does not adhere anywhere near strong enough to mess with AKM, especially with how robust the AK family is. Maybe it would cause some minor temporary jams with first few shots, but after that the sheer force of that gas operated mechanism would just pry things loose and work just fine. 

Spray paint two things together and you will pull them apart with very little effort once the paint settles. 

It's spray paint not superglue. 

Edited October 10, 2014 by General Zod

[Chaingunfighter 917]

If they do add reliability issues to spray painted guns then by all means go nuts.

 

Also yes even an akm will have problems with reliability if you spray paint it incorrectly it would function like an adhesive on the internals and any areas that get permeated by the paint.

 

Overall yes though if they add negative reasons factors towards spray painting guns and clothing then by all means let the spray painting begin.

That's a perfectly acceptable drawback.

However, the difference would have to be minor at best.

[nokyookami 63]

If they do add reliability issues to spray painted guns then by all means go nuts.

 

Also yes even an akm will have problems with reliability if you spray paint it incorrectly it would function like an adhesive on the internals and any areas that get permeated by the paint.

 

Overall yes though if they add negative reasons factors towards spray painting guns and clothing then by all means let the spray painting begin.

you Cant Paint the Firing Mechanism any Color on the the Guns and Must remove the Stock to Paint it on the AKM and the Grip is Unpaintable actualy :/

I Usualy Carry an AKM and Wish i Could Paint the Grip But Yeah even so the Parts Must Be removed then Combined with the Paint in the Current Build So all in all Shouldnt effect Functionality

[hleVqq 139]

Don't tell people what they would do in a certain situation. Especially if you want to justify "make the game more MilSim" ("It gives you a disadvantage!") or "give players less options" ("Oh my god the trolls!") or "taylor it around my playstyle" ("Nobody would use it!").

 

It does not make the game less realistic - stop repeating this bullshit because thats just that - bullshit.

Seems like you're too focused on your silly opinion -- that I'm basing everything off my own playstyle and needs -- to actually understand my point. So be it. You're not worth the discussion.

 

Just one last thing. If you honestly believe that the addition of bright spray paint colors wouldn't make people use them for the lulz just because it's a game (even though they wouldn't do that IRL), and in turn make the game appear way less realistic than it is now with a limited palette, then I can't even describe how wrong you are. You'll probably just brush it off as "oh it's that guy that I disagree with posting again", but if I'm somehow wrong and you are at least remotely worth of a serious discussion, then you will consider this and make conclusions.

[liquidcactus 719]

Hot pink for the ladies :D