More Spray Pain Color Options For Latter Please! :)

[Deathlove 2286]

No, but we're talking about the zombie apocalypse here, not some sort of civil war. However, I should have said "majority of people" instead of "nobody".

 

However, you do have a valid point, but you are missing the fact that there are civilian clothing items in the game that separate playstyles. There is no need for coloured spray paints, because if people don't want to look tactical they should avoid any vests or military helmets in the first place.

 

However, I don't see normal civilians wearing bright coloured stuff. Only insane people in the first place would ever wear outstanding colours, others would wear dull stuff like black, green, brown, etc.

Ppl should not have to downgrade there items just to play a certain way. It should be as open ended as ppl want them to be. You forget its NOT only in civil wars. You have gangs especially here in America that use colors for turf wars. So it can be interpreted in many different ways.

 

Where do you live? Depending on your area i guess i could understand that but places in America have  VAST assortment of both normal colored and VERY bright colored clothing for ppl to choose from. Now just because you like wearing something bright orange does not classify you as crazy or something with flames or whatever. It all depends upon the person in general its not just defined by the clothing style.

[nokyookami 63]

No, but we're talking about the zombie apocalypse here, not some sort of civil war. However, I should have said "majority of people" instead of "nobody".

 

However, you do have a valid point, but you are missing the fact that there are civilian clothing items in the game that separate playstyles. There is no need for coloured spray paints, because if people don't want to look tactical they should avoid any vests or military helmets in the first place.

 

However, I don't see normal civilians wearing bright coloured stuff. Only insane people in the first place would ever wear outstanding colours, others would wear dull stuff like black, green, brown, etc.

Which Makes it Less Need for only Black and Green than Fighting People Zombies Dont Discriminate Why Bother with only Camo unless your Planning to Kill and Have Conflicts with People?

Cant Hide From Zombies in DayZ their Eyes Are Superior to Hawks and they Can Smell us through the Walls it Seems xD 

anyway Not Bright But Some Colors Would Be Nice

Especially Once you Can Paint Vehicles and Base Parts

or Signs If those Are Added

Not Just Helmets and Guns But Even So i Would Probably Do a Helmet With Some Color Not Neon Pinks or Anything But Deep Red and Black Combos or Such Could Be Cool and Totally Something i would do IRL

Make My Helmet Match My RedPunk Boots

Edited October 6, 2014 by NokyoOkami

[lelmat132 6]

Which Makes it Less Need for only Black and Green than Fighting People Zombies Dont Discriminate Why Bother with only Camo unless your Planning to Kill and Have Conflicts with People?

Cant Hide From Zombies in DayZ their Eyes Are Superior to Hawks and they Can Smell us through the Walls it Seems xD 

anyway Not Bright But Some Colors Would Be Nice

Especially Once you Can Paint Vehicles and Base Parts

or Signs If those Are Added

Not Just Helmets and Guns But Even So i Would Probably Do a Helmet With Some Color Not Neon Pinks or Anything But Deep Red and Black Combos or Such Could Be Cool and Totally Something i would do IRL

Make My Helmet Match My RedPunk Boots

 

Just because you wear camo doesn't mean you want to kill people. I wear camo, to avoid sniper fire.

 

Also, I'm not too sure if they're adding in painting, as people would just draw dicks everywhere.

 

Although, yeah, it would be cool to have patterns on your helmets.

 

I just think that, if more spray paint colours WERE added, not saying I'm agreeing with them yet, that really bright coloured (yellow, lime green, pink, purple, cyan, etc) should be REALLY rare so people can't go trolling by spray painting every helmet, gun, etc pink. However, dull colours (red, normal blue, dull orange, brown, etc) should be more common.

Edited October 6, 2014 by lelmat132

[nokyookami 63]

Just because you wear camo doesn't mean you want to kill people. I wear camo, to avoid sniper fire.

 

Also, I'm not too sure if they're adding in painting, as people would just draw dicks everywhere.

 

Although, yeah, it would be cool to have patterns on your helmets.

 

I just think that, if more spray paint colours WERE added, not saying I'm agreeing with them yet, that really bright coloured (yellow, lime green, pink, purple, cyan, etc) should be REALLY rare so people can't go trolling by spray painting every helmet, gun, etc pink. However, dull colours (red, normal blue, dull orange, brown, etc) should be more common.

hahaa Not Maybe Painting With Shapes But Painting Solid Panels I think is Possible For Bases and Vehicles

And Signs Perhaps Like Writing Notes But Visable in Game Like on Cardboard But in a Spray-paint Font

And True Weird Colors are Rarer to Own irl so Makes Sense to Be rare in Game too I Dont want to only Find Bright Lime and Shiney Gold  Cans

but Maybe Be Some Commons you would See Reds/Blues/Greens/Tan/Black/Grey/Brown/White/Olive

And Yeah Camo Doesn't always Mean You Want to Kill People Bet Heavily Implies you Are Accounting For Hostile Encounters Is How i Meant By Using to Kill or Have Conflicts

Meaning you Heavily Account for this in your PlayStyle

Makes me think You Are an Experienced Combatant or Expect a Fight  one way or the other which Does Make Me Weary to Trust or Make Contact that's How i Meant

 

Edited October 6, 2014 by NokyoOkami

[Deathlove 2286]

hahaa Not Maybe Painting With Shapes But Painting Solid Panels I think is Possible For Bases and Vehicles

And Signs Perhaps Like Writing Notes But Visable in Game Like on Cardboard But in a Spray-paint Font

And True Weird Colors are Rarer to Own irl so Makes Sense to Be rare in Game too I Dont want to only Find Bright Lime and Shiney Gold  Cans

but Maybe Be Some Commons you would See Reds/Blues/Greens/Tan/Black/Grey/Brown/White/Olive

And Yeah Camo Doesn't always Mean You Want to Kill People Bet Heavily Implies you Are Accounting For Hostile Encounters Is How i Meant By Using to Kill or Have Conflicts

Meaning you Heavily Account for this in your PlayStyle

Makes me think You Are an Experienced Combatant or Expect a Fight  one way or the other which Does Make Me Weary to Trust or Make Contact that's How i Meant

 

Not really it all depends on what country you live in. Here i can find EVERY single kind of spray paint color i need under the sun since i live in a city. Hell i can even find some of the rarer metallic spray paint colors outside of just silver and gold which are more common here. Like metallic reds, blues, greens, etc. But in this area of the game, yes i would expect some colors to be rarer but basic primary including pink should be more common. Now NEON spray paint colors. Thats a different story as neon anything is quite a bit rarer.

Edited October 6, 2014 by Deathlove

[hleVqq 139]

No you're far worse, you're an idiot who keeps on saying that things that are tactci cool survial should not be in game. Following your logc lets remove bright clothes (fuck the bright yellow raincoat in particular)

But you're arguments are based on one meaningless thing :

You wouldn't use them. 

So what there is a lot of people who would. Not to mention that people already said that your beloved camouflage colours are USELESS in towns. 

You're not very smart, are you. Clothes provide item slots (and in the case of raincoats, rain protection) so at times you may need to use those until you find something better. Did you even read the thread? I've posted this before. My argument is based on the fact (doesn't take a genius to figure that out) that people would use useful camo colors and would NOT use colors that would only make them easier to spot, except for very few, perhaps mentally retarded people. Now if you put this into game, it instantly ruins the realism because that few exceptions would grow to large amounts of players. It makes no sense to see a bunch of people wearing bright in a zombie apocalypse. Deal with it.

[nokyookami 63]

Not really it all depends on what country you live in. Here i can find EVERY single kind of spray paint color i need under the sun since i live in a city. Hell i can even find some of the rarer metallic spray paint colors outside of just silver and gold which are more common here. Like metallic reds, blues, greens, etc. But in this area of the game, yes i would expect some colors to be rarer but basic primary including pink should be more common. Now NEON spray paint colors. Thats a different story as neon anything is quite a bit rarer.

didnt Mean Not FInd Just it Wont Be the only thing you Find ^_^

am From a Rural Area So Whats Available Most Common is Usually Like Barn Reds Navy Blues and Similar I Assume Chenarus Would Be Similar Since it is Rural Farming Towns

But Still For every Store Usualy Has at Least 1-3 Cans Stock of all Colors And extra Boxes of the Basic Tones/Neutral Colors

and Many Peoples Houses/Sheds would Most Likely  Have Cans of Basics To Cover up Patches of Missing Paint on old Vehicles to Protect the Metal or to Paint over Patches of Siding that Need it  And so on

 

Edited October 6, 2014 by NokyoOkami

[lelmat132 6]

hahaa Not Maybe Painting With Shapes But Painting Solid Panels I think is Possible For Bases and Vehicles

And Signs Perhaps Like Writing Notes But Visable in Game Like on Cardboard But in a Spray-paint Font

And True Weird Colors are Rarer to Own irl so Makes Sense to Be rare in Game too I Dont want to only Find Bright Lime and Shiney Gold  Cans

but Maybe Be Some Commons you would See Reds/Blues/Greens/Tan/Black/Grey/Brown/White/Olive

And Yeah Camo Doesn't always Mean You Want to Kill People Bet Heavily Implies you Are Accounting For Hostile Encounters Is How i Meant By Using to Kill or Have Conflicts

Meaning you Heavily Account for this in your PlayStyle

Makes me think You Are an Experienced Combatant or Expect a Fight  one way or the other which Does Make Me Weary to Trust or Make Contact that's How i Meant

 

 

Yeah, I guess that it does mean you do expect to be shot at if you wear camo. Oh well. But yeah, I agree with the colour range that should be the most common to find.

[lelmat132 6]

Not really it all depends on what country you live in. Here i can find EVERY single kind of spray paint color i need under the sun since i live in a city. Hell i can even find some of the rarer metallic spray paint colors outside of just silver and gold which are more common here. Like metallic reds, blues, greens, etc. But in this area of the game, yes i would expect some colors to be rarer but basic primary including pink should be more common. Now NEON spray paint colors. Thats a different story as neon anything is quite a bit rarer.

 

Well, Chernarus doesn't seem like the wealthiest country, so I'm not sure that special colours would be easy to reach.

 

I disagree with allowing colours such as pink to be common. As I said, chernarus isn't a wealthy country, so few would be able to get bright extravagant colours such as pink, and most likely would only have duller/less special colours such as deep reds, browns, greys, dark greens, dark blues, white, etc.

[Deathlove 2286]

Well, Chernarus doesn't seem like the wealthiest country, so I'm not sure that special colours would be easy to reach.

 

I disagree with allowing colours such as pink to be common. As I said, chernarus isn't a wealthy country, so few would be able to get bright extravagant colours such as pink, and most likely would only have duller/less special colours such as deep reds, browns, greys, dark greens, dark blues, white, etc.

I don't expect a tone of different colors but some primary colors would be nice and maybe some rarer ones really. But idk i just get super tired of looking and green and black spray paint in game all damn day.

[Inception. 9443]

Deathlove. Please use the MultiQuote feature or edit your previous post(s) to avoid making multiple consecutive posts.

 

I know that because I'm not a mindless idiot.

 

None of this please - that goes for all of you.

[General Zod 1118]

Wow, hypocrite much? You're not picturing it from my perspective, are you? Do you really support 99% of DayZ Players running around in colourful shit? Sure, it'll be easy to spot them, but it won't be a realistic experience, because utterly nobody would actually chose to do that in real life.

Do you even know what a hypocrite is ? I don't need to look at it from your perspective, your perspective is boring, based on - " I wouldn't do that and there no one will do that, it's unrealistic" who are to speak for others ? 

And yes I support that, why not. Do you thing in apocalypse people would run to a town and shoot at each other ? (berezino much ?)  

So you say that in a world of apocalypse everyone would do the same thing you do in DayZ ? Run to military base and get full cammo, assault rifle and 500 bullets ? 

[lelmat132 6]

Do you even know what a hypocrite is ? I don't need to look at it from your perspective, your perspective is boring, based on - " I wouldn't do that and there no one will do that, it's unrealistic" who are to speak for others ? 

And yes I support that, why not. Do you thing in apocalypse people would run to a town and shoot at each other ? (berezino much ?)  

So you say that in a world of apocalypse everyone would do the same thing you do in DayZ ? Run to military base and get full cammo, assault rifle and 500 bullets ? 

 

Well then, if you add colours in you might as well not add vehicles or advanced medical procedures or sleeping or anything realistic like that.

 

And yes, I know what a hypocrite is, thank you very much. And what? You're just gonna ignore my perspective because apparently it's boring? Sounds to me like you want features for the sake of adding features, and you wouldn't actually use them.

[General Zod 1118]

Well then, if you add colours in you might as well not add vehicles or advanced medical procedures or sleeping or anything realistic like that.

 

And yes, I know what a hypocrite is, thank you very much. And what? You're just gonna ignore my perspective because apparently it's boring? Sounds to me like you want features for the sake of adding features, and you wouldn't actually use them.

Because I am not  a selfish jerk. Just because I don't use sporster or a double barrel doesn't mean I think it should not be in game.

And where the fuck did the "do not add realistic things" came from ? I am all for realism, and part of realism is there will be various colour spray paints lying around, whether you use them is up to you, but they are there nonetheless. 

And be careful with your realism because it will also mean that breaking a leg = several weeks of limping around. Getting shot in the stomach ? Stomach content spills into abdominal cavity = sepsis = slow, painful death. Shot in the chest = collapsed lung = only half oxygen for you nor more running. Should we keep going with the hyper realism ? 

Imagine how lethal injuries will be with no doctors around.

 

You don't know what people would do in case of an apocalypse because there hasn't been one. Your point of view is that if your not going to use something, no one else will and therefore it should not be added. So yes I refuse to look at things from that point, because I know not everyone plays like I do. Should I write this down for you in crayons ? 

Edited October 6, 2014 by General Zod

[hleVqq 139]

Because I am not  a selfish jerk. Just because I don't use sporster or a double barrel doesn't mean I think it should not be in game.

And where the fuck did the "do not add realistic things" came from ? I am all for realism, and part of realism is there will be various colour spray paints lying around, whether you use them is up to you, but there are there nonetheless.

We get it dude. You want players to have a choice that they would have IRL. That's fine. Except that it ruins realism because people would make different choices in DayZ than they would IRL. That's what you fail to understand. The whole idea is that it's not worth adding a realistic option because it will do more bad than good. How can you not see something so obvious?

[General Zod 1118]

We get it dude. You want players to have a choice that they would have IRL. That's fine. Except that it ruins realism because people would make different choices in DayZ than they would IRL. That's what you fail to understand. The whole idea is that it's not worth adding a realistic option because it will do more bad than good. How can you not see something so obvious?

You still failed to tell me what bad it will do. 

[hleVqq 139]

It's you who has failed to read my posts.

 

But I'll make it easier for you:

Seeing people running around in bright, easy-to-spot colors due to their own choice is unrealistic, unless it's a one-in-a-million scenario where a mentally retarded guy finds a pretty spray paint color to play with. In DayZ, people would use those colors "because why not, it's just a game" and not give a damn about realism which the devs are striving for.

Edited October 6, 2014 by Powerhouse

[General Zod 1118]

It's you who has failed to read my posts.

 

But I'll make it easier for you:

Seeing people running around in bright, easy-to-spot colors due to their own choice is unrealistic, unless it's a one-in-a-million scenario where a mentally retarded guy finds a pretty spray paint color to play with. In DayZ, people would use those colors "because why not, it's just a game" and not give a damn about realism which the devs are striving for.

Or maybe a group of killers / bandits want to get their gear bright to stand out ? To indicate danger, to show off. 

All you talk about is surviving from a point of a single normal guy. And yet you accuse of not looking at things from a different perspective. 

On one hand you people bitch about KoS without interaction day in and day out. But when someone suggest something that would enhance role playing you instantly shoot it down with "unrealistic" arguments. Is the fact that 90% of people running around with assault rifle and with military grade clothes realistic ? No it's not, but I don't see you arguing to reduce military gear. Because you like it. 

 

And even if it isn't 100% realistic, it would bring in some variation into the game, which is as important as realism. Otherwise people get bored and leave. 

Edited October 6, 2014 by General Zod

[hleVqq 139]

Or maybe a group of killers / bandits want to get their gear bright to stand out ? To indicate danger, to show off.

The devs could just add those spray colors to prove my point that way too many people would use them, but I'd rather they focused on important things, that don't reduce realism.

 

On one hand you people bitch about KoS without interaction day in and day out.

I'm not one of those people.

 

But when someone suggest something that would enhance role playing you instantly shoot it down with "unrealistic" arguments.

Right, let's have ridiculous spray paint colors because those 3 people want to role play! Who cares if it reduces the realism of the game that strives for realism!

 

Is the fact that 90% of people running around with assault rifle and with military grade clothes realistic ?

Where did you get this statistic? It's very inaccurate.

 

And even if it isn't 100% realistic, it would bring in some variation into the game, which is as important as realism. Otherwise people get bored and leave.

So in the end you do agree that it would make the game less realistic? Because that's the whole point I was trying to get across.

Edited October 6, 2014 by Powerhouse

[General Zod 1118]

The devs could just add those spray colors to prove my point that way too many people would use them, but I'd rather they focused on important things, that don't reduce realism.

I'd like to see that. 

 

I'm not one of those people.

Good for you.

 

 

Right, let's have ridiculous spray paint colors because those 3 people want to role play! Who cares if it reduces the realism of the game that strives for realism!

If you would read this forum, there is a tonne of complaining that there is not enough role playing. One of the reasons being lack of means to do so. 

 

 

Where did you get this statistic? It's very inaccurate.

Oh I don't know, post your gear gallery ? Where most screens show guys dressed and equipped like spetsnaz or navy seals. People put hours into hunting down heli crash sites to get full pimped out M4s is that realistic ? 

 

 

So in the end you do agree that it would make the game less realistic? Because that's the whole point I was trying to get across.

No I don't it will make it realistic, because in real life those spray paints would be there and even that small % of people could use them. It would only make it less realistic for for people obsessed with 100% survival useful gear only. 

So from a survival point of view, yes less realistic, form a real life point of view, more realistic. 

 

Any how

I think this the part were further discussion is pointless. All we can do is agree to disagree and not waste time. At least that's what I'm going to do. 

Edited October 6, 2014 by General Zod

[Evil Minion 943]

that don't reduce realism.

You have an odd definition of "realism".

Who cares if it reduces the realism of the game that strives for realism!

It doesn't reduce realism. More the other way around: It improves realism by making the game less MilSim-y.

So in the end you do agree that it would make the game less realistic?

Can't agree with things that are plain wrong. Not having bright colored spraypaint and not being able to use it is what reduces realism. Because a zombie apocalypse is not a big deathmatch where everything resolves about survivors shooting each other.

Because that's the whole point I was trying to get across.

Yeah and this point is bullshit. You want to sell your "thats how this game has to be played" under the guise of realism. There is nothing realistic about this only wild assumptions of "people would not use this in reality". Edited October 6, 2014 by Evil Minion

[nokyookami 63]

No I don't it will make it realistic, because in real life those spray paints would be there and even that small % of people could use them. It would only make it less realistic for for people obsessed with 100% survival useful gear only. 

So from a survival point of view, yes less realistic, form a real life point of view, more realistic. 

Not Sure Even From a Survival Point

In Reality in your Survival Sure Everyone Can Survive With the Pristine Ideal Survival Gear But Lets Not Forget

The Whole Point of an Apocolypse is Making Do with Societies Left Overs

Which I think You Would See Far More Stuff Useless for Survival

and thats the truth of it Use your Creativity in a way to Adapt these Items to Useful Means or Perish

 

if it was a Game Full of only the Most Valid Military trained Survival Purist Items then you Lose a Key Apocalypse element 'Scavenging for anything Useful'

Cause Every House would Be Full of Hunter Backpacks Multi-tools Matches and Axes only the Best Guns Knives and Cans of Military Rations

lol Half of an Apocalypse is that you Need to Sort Through Societies Leftovers Realizing the Sad truth We weren't Prepared for this

Even if Green and Black Spraypaint Existed Seems that Survivors Before us Would Have Used All the Good Colors Leaving us the Crap Colors

Chenarus Doesnt Look Like its Day1

Edited October 6, 2014 by NokyoOkami

[agentstaple 29]

Not Sure Even From a Survival Point

In Reality in your Survival Sure Everyone Can Survive With the Pristine Ideal Survival Gear But Lets Not Forget

The Whole Point of an Apocolypse is Making Do with Societies Left Overs

Which I think You Would See Far More Stuff Useless for Survival

and thats the truth of it Use your Creativity in a way to Adapt these Items to Useful Means or Perish

 

if it was a Game Full of only the Most Valid Military trained Survival Purist Items then you Lose a Key Apocalypse element 'Scavenging for anything Useful'

Cause Every House would Be Full of Hunter Backpacks Multi-tools Matches and Axes only the Best Guns Knives and Cans of Military Rations

lol Half of an Apocalypse is that you Need to Sort Through Societies Leftovers Realizing the Sad truth We weren't Prepared for this

Even if Green and Black Spraypaint Existed Seems that Survivors Before us Would Have Used All the Good Colors Leaving us the Crap Colors

Chenarus Doesnt Look Like its Day1

I agree with this completely.

 

>The whole point of an apocolypse is making do with societies left overs.

 

Exactly, but I don't see the point in adding things that have no purpose. Maybe I could see it in the future when all of the needed items are in like more civilian clothing, weapons, foods, tools etc. Once that is in a little diluting will be good.

 

I think Spray paint should serve a purpose other than making guns look cool. They should slow down condition loss keeping away rust. But the problem with this idea is that guns aren't really rare enough for it to work. Finding a high quality civilian gun like a Mosin, or any mid-high spec military gun should very rare, rare enough that if you found one painting it a very bright colour would be absolutely nuts. Painting a winchester or a double barrel a bright colour would be worth it though thanks to the protection it would offer.

 

Anyone claiming it's realistic that people would be running around with bright green handguns and pink machetes are talking out there ass. Anyone in an apocolypse WOULD be obsessed with survival and the game should reflect that. If someone manages to get to a point where they can survive easily then I can see them painting their guns ridiculous colours to show their prowess (IE, Large clans supporting each other would survive more easily than lone wolves).

[nokyookami 63]

I agree with this completely.

 

>The whole point of an apocolypse is making do with societies left overs.

 

Exactly, but I don't see the point in adding things that have no purpose. Maybe I could see it in the future when all of the needed items are in like more civilian clothing, weapons, foods, tools etc. Once that is in a little diluting will be good.

 

I think Spray paint should serve a purpose other than making guns look cool. They should slow down condition loss keeping away rust. But the problem with this idea is that guns aren't really rare enough for it to work. Finding a high quality civilian gun like a Mosin, or any mid-high spec military gun should very rare, rare enough that if you found one painting it a very bright colour would be absolutely nuts. Painting a winchester or a double barrel a bright colour would be worth it though thanks to the protection it would offer.

 

Anyone claiming it's realistic that people would be running around with bright green handguns and pink machetes are talking out there ass. Anyone in an apocolypse WOULD be obsessed with survival and the game should reflect that. If someone manages to get to a point where they can survive easily then I can see them painting their guns ridiculous colours to show their prowess (IE, Large clans supporting each other would survive more easily than lone wolves).

i think Everything Has its Place People who Cant See Need for Paint other than Gun Prestige Coloring or trolling Just are Looking Narrowly

And No one Here Outside the The Color Haters Have said People all Want Bright Colored Guns Most of us are Saying that we Just want any Color 

And People in an Apocolypse Survive Despite the Odds it isnt only About Obsession But Many Factors

Again Saying everyone would Be obsessed with only Greens and Blacks and None would want anything else is just as False as saying everyone would Only want High Visibility pink and orange  and anyone Who Wants anything else is Breaking Immersion

Soon I Should Hope Paint Can Be Used For More Such as Warning Signs Marking Bases or Bandit Territory And For Vehicles and Bases

But Honestly Adding Color Variations isnt Something that Breaks Immersion

For all these People Talking about Owning other than Black and Green paint When the Apocalypse Strikes Breaking Immersion Need to Focus Energy on other Aspects that are Actualy Breaking Immersion Like  Suicide to Get Life easier or as a Method of fast travel or Server Hopping for Loot or running from Novo To Cherno on a Freshly Broken Leg With a Stick Holding it together

Edited October 6, 2014 by NokyoOkami

[agentstaple 29]

For all these People Talking about Owning other than Black and Green paint When the Apocalypse Strikes Breaking Immersion Need to Focus Energy on other Aspects that are Actualy Breaking Immersion Like  Suicide to Get Life easier or as a Method of fast travel or Server Hopping for Loot or running from Novo To Cherno on a Freshly Broken Leg With a Stick Holding it together

I agree with that but I feel like the devs either A. already have plans for those issues and can't implement them yet or B. Aren't worrying about those issues until dev is further along.

 

I also really agree that there should and will be more uses for paints.

 

>And People in an Apocolypse Survive Despite the Odds it isnt About Obsession But Many Factors

 

I think there we'll just have to agree to disagree. You spend even a month in a dayz environment without any basic survival skills your chances of living are very very slim. And I think (not sure) dayz is set longer than a month after the apocalypse.

 

Of course it's about obsession, who wants to die? When you start running low on water you will become obsessed with finding water, or die. If you find some water you're next priority will be food.

 

Sure there will be a few people hiding out but they will run out of food and water quite fast and have to start scavenging or they'll be raided by bandits.

 

>adding colour variants isn't something that breaks immersion.

 

No, it's the way people will use them that will break immersion. So give them valid uses.